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2/12/2006  10:12 PM
for all you "Brown's killing us with the line ups" guys notice tonight. Starting line up has a good first first qtr and plays the Rockets even. Same line up starts the 3rd qtr and gives up an 11-1 run.
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2/12/2006  10:19 PM
Posted by fishmike:

for all you "Brown's killing us with the line ups" guys notice tonight. Starting line up has a good first first qtr and plays the Rockets even. Same line up starts the 3rd qtr and gives up an 11-1 run.


that's only because teams adjust to us.... coaches observe how we play and what we're running offensively and defensively, then they exploit our weaknesses in the 3rd quarter out of the box
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2/12/2006  10:20 PM
Posted by fishmike:

for all you "Brown's killing us with the line ups" guys notice tonight. Starting line up has a good first first qtr and plays the Rockets even. Same line up starts the 3rd qtr and gives up an 11-1 run.

Considering how much you hated seeing Sweetney get 20 mpg last year, I thought you'd be upset about all the DNP-CDs Larry's giving David Lee and Jackie Butler and the fact that Frye's sitting out half of each game.
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2/12/2006  10:22 PM
Curry doesn't get enough shots, and Curry doesn't play with McGrady.
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2/12/2006  10:23 PM
Like Game's block on TMac? Pay attention Eddy, your teammate's showing you how to play the center position.
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2/12/2006  10:23 PM
Posted by fishmike:

for all you "Brown's killing us with the line ups" guys notice tonight. Starting line up has a good first first qtr and plays the Rockets even. Same line up starts the 3rd qtr and gives up an 11-1 run.

I like how Larry Brown takes QRich out every time he makes a three. Gotta keep it old school and take it to the hole, Q!

David Lee has really played horrible tonight. The team keeps going into Curry and he keeps missing.

You're right though, LB's coaching has been tight tonight.

Mo Taylor is the worst help defender I've ever seen, yet somehow he starts over Frye.
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2/12/2006  10:23 PM
Posted by NewYorkSoul:
Posted by fishmike:

for all you "Brown's killing us with the line ups" guys notice tonight. Starting line up has a good first first qtr and plays the Rockets even. Same line up starts the 3rd qtr and gives up an 11-1 run.


that's only because teams adjust to us.... coaches observe how we play and what we're running offensively and defensively, then they exploit our weaknesses in the 3rd quarter out of the box

Bingo.

Larrys game plan sucks. What adjustments does he make during the half? Does his fleet of coaches go through the scouting reports and try to exploit anything?

Its the same game every day. Its like ground hog day. I I'm sick of looking at the same thing when I get home.
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2/12/2006  10:24 PM
I don't agree with that. They only run about 3 sets consistently. Coaches know everything every other team is gonna run off the top of thier head. 90 percent of the league runs the same sets anyways. Its all about execution. the Knicks biggest defensive problem is that guards cant keep guys out of the lane guys help on ballside which you cant do and they give up easy jumpers. If they can figure out out to keep guys in front of them and out of the lane they will give up 15 less points a game. Just count the number of times oppenents get into the lane
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2/12/2006  10:26 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by fishmike:

for all you "Brown's killing us with the line ups" guys notice tonight. Starting line up has a good first first qtr and plays the Rockets even. Same line up starts the 3rd qtr and gives up an 11-1 run.

I like how Larry Brown takes QRich out every time he makes a three. Gotta keep it old school and take it to the hole, Q!

David Lee has really played horrible tonight. The team keeps going into Curry and he keeps missing.

You're right though, LB's coaching has been tight tonight.

Mo Taylor is the worst help defender I've ever seen, yet somehow he starts over Frye.

i don't know why dlee isn't playing but frye has played 6 mins and picked up 3 fouls.
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2/12/2006  10:26 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by NewYorkSoul:
Posted by fishmike:

for all you "Brown's killing us with the line ups" guys notice tonight. Starting line up has a good first first qtr and plays the Rockets even. Same line up starts the 3rd qtr and gives up an 11-1 run.


that's only because teams adjust to us.... coaches observe how we play and what we're running offensively and defensively, then they exploit our weaknesses in the 3rd quarter out of the box

Bingo.

Larrys game plan sucks. What adjustments does he make during the half? Does his fleet of coaches go through the scouting reports and try to exploit anything?

Its the same game every day. Its like ground hog day. I I'm sick of looking at the same thing when I get home.


to me that is why I am upset about our team... we arent making ANY progress at all. We have lost every game the EXACT same way (except for a couple of 1st half blow outs)
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2/12/2006  10:26 PM
One of Q's better games.
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2/12/2006  10:28 PM
how we can be down 7 when limiting T-Mac to 2-18 is beyond comprehension
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2/12/2006  10:32 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by fishmike:

for all you "Brown's killing us with the line ups" guys notice tonight. Starting line up has a good first first qtr and plays the Rockets even. Same line up starts the 3rd qtr and gives up an 11-1 run.

I like how Larry Brown takes QRich out every time he makes a three. Gotta keep it old school and take it to the hole, Q!

David Lee has really played horrible tonight. The team keeps going into Curry and he keeps missing.

You're right though, LB's coaching has been tight tonight.

Mo Taylor is the worst help defender I've ever seen, yet somehow he starts over Frye.

i don't know why dlee isn't playing but frye has played 6 mins and picked up 3 fouls.

i'd rather start Frye and let him get in an offensive rhythm and hope he'd learn to pick up fewer fouls than watch Mo T stand around on D and look at other players breeze by him. MoT is a horrible team player, Lee and Frye are great team players. This team more guys who will look out for the other guy, and we have them and they're on the bench.

Frye is the best Knicks rookie we've had in about 20yrs. Him playing less than Mo is a joke.
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2/12/2006  10:32 PM
how are teams adjusting to us? Why dont our guys make adjustments? Oh yea... because our players SUCK
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2/12/2006  10:32 PM
Posted by fishmike:

how are teams adjusting to us? Why dont our guys make adjustments? Oh yea... because our players SUCK

the coach is innocent? he's making adjustments and the team isn't listening?
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2/12/2006  10:37 PM
these guys cant do the same thing for 2 qtrs in a row. The coach isnt on the floor.

My god... who do you guys want to coach? Chaney, Lenny, Herb, Larry Brown and each sucks worse than the next. Half these guys know they are toast... of this I have no doubt.

Hopefully they find happy basketball homes where the coach doesnt demand effort, defense, passing, rebounding or taking care of the ball.
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2/12/2006  10:37 PM
and there's Curry's 5th
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2/12/2006  10:38 PM
and 6th
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2/12/2006  10:39 PM
Posted by fishmike:

these guys cant do the same thing for 2 qtrs in a row. The coach isnt on the floor.

My god... who do you guys want to coach? Chaney, Lenny, Herb, Larry Brown and each sucks worse than the next. Half these guys know they are toast... of this I have no doubt.

Hopefully they find happy basketball homes where the coach doesnt demand effort, defense, passing, rebounding or taking care of the ball.

This is like the Zeke is okay because Layden was so bad argument - it makes no sense.

LB demands those things - great. The problem is HOW he demands it and how he reacts - by benching players for ticky tack mistakes.

Wilkens did a good job here, he made the playoffs with a junk squad and had the next year's team at 16-13 before Houston, Craw and Nazr suffered various injuries. And there was a lot less finger-pointing.
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2/12/2006  10:39 PM
Once again Curry finishes a game with more fouls and turnovers than rebounds assists and blocks combined.
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