Posted by holfresh:

So you are saying Marbs means nothing to this team? Is that what you are really saying? And the bad play of late is what, lack of a point guard...So stick Carlos Aroyo in there and we would be fine? Is that what you are saying?

We wouldn't be "fine" with Arroyo, but we couldn't be much worse.

So you don't think much of Marbs?

Every team Jalen has been on they can't wait to get rid of him...Now you want him to be the voice and leader of this team.....The guy has two years tops as this level,which is far removed form his highest level...He will be traded next season to get rid of his contract...We have not had a point guard like Marbs in the last 30 years...The last guy was Clyde....Our last adequate point was Mark Jackson and he wasn't as good as Marbs....Point guards don't grow on trees...Some teams get a good point once every 12 to 15 years....The last Laker good point guard was Magic...Last Celtic point guard was DJ...Last Piston point guard b4 Billips was Isiah...We have Marbs and you want to hand him off for a bag of whips because you don't think he is a leader...right...

Posted by Knight:

Posted by holfresh:

Every team Jalen has been on they can't wait to get rid of him...Now you want him to be the voice and leader of this team.....The guy has two years tops as this level,which is far removed form his highest level...He will be traded next season to get rid of his contract...We have not had a point guard like Marbs in the last 30 years...The last guy was Clyde....Our last adequate point was Mark Jackson and he wasn't as good as Marbs....Point guards don't grow on trees...Some teams get a good point once every 12 to 15 years....The last Laker good point guard was Magic...Last Celtic point guard was DJ...Last Piston point guard b4 Billips was Isiah...We have Marbs and you want to hand him off for a bag of whips because you don't think he is a leader...right...

If great point guards are hard to come by why isn't anyone interested in Marbury's services?

The 76 million dollars left on his contract over the next 4 years....

We are talking point guards here...It make a difference....Who wants Jason Kidd's contract at this point in his career...Iverson puts people in the seats...Vince carter is making 13.8 per....2 more years left on his contract...You can't compare...

Was Marybury desirable when Phoenix traded Kidd for him...Who wants Kidd now..Tell me the team...Iverson is head and shoulders above both these guys..Iverson is a franchise player...I know you are a Steph hater and Larry Lover...Davis has played and average of 54 games the last 3 years..and he doesn't have the career numbers that Marbs has...Jason Kidd is done, he is on the downside of his career now with his bad knees...He has lost a step...Lets see him next year..but u don't care, you just hate Marbs...So his team historically lose...Name one player other than Van Horn or KMart who was on his Net team that is playing today in the NBA...By the way both KMart and Van Horn was hurt the when Marbs played in KMart rookie year..Kittles was hurt as well...but u don't care, Marbs should have won it all..By the way, Baron Davis is not in the same salary structure as Marbs...Davis makes 13.8 per this yr...Notice I give you facts and you give me conjecture..I bet you are proud of the job Brown is doing with the insults and all....

Posted by Knight:

Posted by holfresh:

Was Marybury desirable when Phoenix traded Kidd for him...Who wants Kidd now..Tell me the team...Iverson is head and shoulders above both these guys..Iverson is a franchise player...I know you are a Steph hater and Larry Lover...Davis has played and average of 54 games the last 3 years..and he doesn't have the career numbers that Marbs has...Jason Kidd is done, he is on the downside of his career now with his bad knees...He has lost a step...Lets see him next year..but u don't care, you just hate Marbs...So his team historically lose...Name one player other than Van Horn or KMart who was on his Net team that is playing today in the NBA...By the way both KMart and Van Horn was hurt the when Marbs played in KMart rookie year..Kittles was hurt as well...but u don't care, Marbs should have won it all..By the way, Baron Davis is not in the same salary structure as Marbs...Davis makes 13.8 per this yr...Notice I give you facts and you give me conjecture..I bet you are proud of the job Brown is doing with the insults and all....

Here's a fact: Many of Marbury's ex-teammates have harsh things to say about playing with him and are glad when he is gone.

More conjecture...ok....Keith Van Horn? Kurt Thomas...I'm not looking for friendly guys...I'm looking for ball players...Great personalities need not apply...I like the fact that Marbs get in their grills in the locker room...I hear Q1 is pissed at Marbs as well...Well good, he's playing like sh#t....Keith Van Horn played soft.....KT wanted more shots...He's not that kind of player....

ok u win

Posted by TMS:

i love how you take my comments about Marbury so personally... dude, i listed the best PG's in the game, & i ranked him in the top 10... the guy is talented no doubt, but he's simply not a leader... look at what Chris Paul is doing w/that crappy team he's playing on... leaders inspire their teammates to play better... Marbury simply has not done that in his time in NY, & i doubt he ever will... Jason Kidd is shot? funny, but last time i checked he's leading his team to 1 of the best records in the East right now... i'll take that "shot" PG any day of the week over our grand exalted Mr. Marbury.

I would just love to surround these guys with the same talent and see how things pan out...It's not taken personally at all...I just think lots of people are selling this guy short and he is better than alot of people thinks he is...And you can have that shot point guard who plays in Jersey, This is a player that fits into the running system really well... Don't forget he had a career before he came to the Nets, how did he manage in those systems...I would have love to have seen him in San Antonio where the team isn't running..How has he feared in the playoffs where it's a half court game? where his shooting prowess has been exposed...I'll see where he will be in just 2 short years....

Posted by holfresh:

I would just love to surround these guys with the same talent and see how things pan out...It's not taken personally at all...I just think lots of people are selling this guy short and he is better than alot of people thinks he is...And you can have that shot point guard who plays in Jersey, This is a player that fits into the running system really well... Don't forget he had a career before he came to the Nets, how did he manage in those systems...I would have love to have seen him in San Antonio where the team isn't running..How has he feared in the playoffs where it's a half court game? where his shooting prowess has been exposed...I'll see where he will be in just 2 short years....

You dont know **** about basketball. Kidd was the main reason the Nets went to the Finals two straight years. He averaged a triple double in the playoffs. Look it up. Kidd couldnt play in the playoffs right? Thats why the Spurs were basically sucking his **** and offering him $100M to come play for them huh? I would trade Marbury's sorry ass for Kidd in a NY minute...even now.






[Edited by - ultknicks524 on 02-11-2006 11:16 PM]

Posted by ultknicks524:

Posted by holfresh:

I would just love to surround these guys with the same talent and see how things pan out...It's not taken personally at all...I just think lots of people are selling this guy short and he is better than alot of people thinks he is...And you can have that shot point guard who plays in Jersey, This is a player that fits into the running system really well... Don't forget he had a career before he came to the Nets, how did he manage in those systems...I would have love to have seen him in San Antonio where the team isn't running..How has he feared in the playoffs where it's a half court game? where his shooting prowess has been exposed...I'll see where he will be in just 2 short years....

You dont know **** about basketball. Kidd was the main reason the Nets went to the Finals two straight years. He averaged a triple double in the playoffs. Look it up. Kidd couldnt play in the playoffs right? Thats why the Spurs were basically sucking his **** and offering him $100M to come play for them huh? I would trade Marbury's sorry ass for Kidd in a NY minute...even now.






[Edited by - ultknicks524 on 02-11-2006 11:16 PM]

When did he Spurs offer Kidd 100 mio...What are u talking abt..fantasy ball or real basketball...The Spurs could have never offered him such a contract given their salary cap....Stop making sh#t up bro....Come correct....