The way I look at this debate- you either believe

you learn to play by playing

or

you learn to play by sitting on the bench and in practice


The knicks over the last 15 years have taken this latter approach with developing talent.

Sweetney was sitting behind fatspoon on the injuried list?

Yes, frye has played more than he did in college- but, he needs to learn to play tired, to push.

You all are a bunch of sissy wussys.

Oh, frye is tired, he shouldn't play anymore.

Throw him out there & don't take him out. Play him till he drops- lets find out if he is worth being our 4 for the next 10-15 years.

Now- I'm not saying like Briggs to put him out there for 35 every night regardless- but he should start and he should play even when he makes mistakes.

How is he going to learn to play defense? You don't learn to ride a bike from a book- you get on a bike and you fall, and get back up and fall again- then, you get the hang of it.

This BS is crippling their development.

Franco, I agree. Larry is babying the rooks. I think he's doing it to protect them, but it is misguided.

When Frye stops playing horrible defense and starts rebounding I'll say he can start, until then he has to EARN it.

Just plain silly putty

>> how about Frye has hit his ceiling as a player?

mck1 - You would among the same people trashing McGrady in his rookie season. His stats were BELOW those of Frye. Yo can look it up.

Have a pacifier



[Edited by - MisterEarl on 02-06-2006 10:42 PM]

Posted by misterearl:

Just plain silly putty

>> how about Frye has hit his ceiling as a player?

mck1 - You would among the same people trashing McGrady in his rookie season. His stats were BELOW those of Frye. Yo can look it up.

Have a pacifier



[Edited by - MisterEarl on 02-06-2006 10:42 PM]

so were Kobe Bryants.

in my best fishmike

do you have a point to make?

Posted by McK1:

Posted by misterearl:

Just plain silly putty

>> how about Frye has hit his ceiling as a player?

mck1 - You would among the same people trashing McGrady in his rookie season. His stats were BELOW those of Frye. Yo can look it up.

Have a pacifier



[Edited by - MisterEarl on 02-06-2006 10:42 PM]

so were Kobe Bryants.

in my best fishmike

do you have a point to make?

the point is young players get better and they get better quicker on the court, especially when they have the demeanor Frye does.

Kobe airballed four shots to kill the Lakers in 97 in the playoffs, but he was on the court.

Posted by McK1:

does every young player get better

IMO Lee has the most potential to grow as a player than Frye or Nate. I think Lee can play the game like Diaw is playing it out in Phoenix.

clearly, no. but then again, the last young player to score 30 twice in his rookie season in New York was named Ewing. I'm not sold on Nate. I think he has too much confidence and doesn't acknowledge his limitations. Lee and Frye I think can be smart, winning players for many years in this league. The fact that they are 6'11" and 6'9" and as skilled as they are with the demeanor and knowledge they already have gives me a lot of hope.