Posted by Knight:

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by Knight:

^You can trade for an impact player. Teams who have impact players with huge contracts have been known to trade them in order to cut expenses--luckily the Knicks are a team that can absorb those kinds of contracts. We do have assets in order to sweeten any deal.

this may sound like a strange question but do you think al harington is an impact player?

If Al Harrington is an impact player then we already have a couple impact players on our team--Marbury and Jalen, and potentially Frye and Curry.

Im hesitant to consider frye an impact player becuase he doesnt really even play that much, marbury and jalen can be impact players, but curry to me is a fringe impact player, I mean he's decent but to me that isnt the same as being an impact player. anyway the reason why I asked is becuase I dont see how the knicks could acquire anyone more talented than al harrington with the resources that we have, and Im not even sure we can get him.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by Rich:

Posted by Knight:

^We are rebuilding through the draft and trades, not by trying to get under the cap and hoping for a free agent to be available that would be able to carry our franchise. Bringing in veterans does not mean you are not committed to rebuilding, they help the young players in innumerable ways.

How are the Knicks going to get the impact player that most NBA championship teams have that the Knicks are going to get with a middle to late round pick or through a trade?

Curry and Frye have a chance to be impact players. Dirk's first year, he averaged 9ppg in about the minutes Frye is getting. Rookies and young players do improve over time. I swear.

Rookies and young players need PT to get better. Given Larry's variable rotations, that isn't guaranteed. I'm not sure that Frye can be an impact player. He can't put the ball on the floor, for example, the way Bosh can.

But maybe Frye will be traded:

According to this article, only Curry is untradable.

[...]

NEW YORK -- Even with the addition of Jalen Rose, Isiah Thomas is still out there looking to make one or more trades. The Knicks are in the hunt for another point guard to help take the load off the injured Stephon Marbury, but they are also willing to do almost anything short of trading Eddy Curry.



[Edited by - Rich on 02-06-2006 11:02 AM]

[Edited by - Rich on 02-06-2006 11:03 AM]

According to that article, Isiah is ruining the Knicks by his mere presence

According to another article Larry Brown has forgotten how to coach

According to this article Marbury sucks.

According to that article the Knicks need Marbury.

Which is it?

Isiah better not trade away David Lee unless we're getting back their unprotected 1st round pick in the process.

David Lee is worth more than Ratliff at this point, even if Ratliff was making the same salary as Lee (as opposed to a bloated 11 mil).

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by franco12:

it just would make sense to get theo, even if there is a pick, unless Jerome James is shipped.

We already have one overpaid 7 foot stiff on the roster, no sense in having two.

Getting a pick is a lesser evil. You could make a case that an unprotected lottery pick has a reasonable possibility to turn out to be a franchise player worth multi-millions to a team. Thats why you rarely see unprotected picks fly. Go look at drafting history of the first 13 picks. EVERY year there is a player[s] taken in the top 13 or so that end up being a big time NBA player. One player could be the difference. Take Dirk Nowitski off the Mavs and what are they worth-- he's a 10 pick? How much has he been worth to that team? Hundreds of millions over his tenure.

But let's face reality, the darn blazers aren't giving us sht. They want US to compensate them for the right to have Theo play 16 minutes for 22mm a year. Scrw off John Nash.

briggs, I can't believe we are on the same page here, but I agree, but what do you think about us taking ratliff off their hands for penny and their first round pick, unprotected, I think if they even want us to consider eating that much money a unprotected first is not much to ask for, it is not like ratliff is making chump change... otherwise, the blazers can bite me..

That's a little over 7 mil per year

Posted by Knight:

Al Harrington is in his 8th year in the league and about to turn 26--and has only recently been considered close to be an impact player if that's what you want to call him. Give Frye and Curry three more years in the league and I guarantee they will be more "impact" than Harrington at that age.

no they won't. Harrington's skillset is unmatched by any NY big.

Posted by Knight:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Knight:

Al Harrington is in his 8th year in the league and about to turn 26--and has only recently been considered close to be an impact player if that's what you want to call him. Give Frye and Curry three more years in the league and I guarantee they will be more "impact" than Harrington at that age.

no they won't. Harrington's skillset is unmatched by any NY big.

You mean his 7 boards in 37 minutes?

no I mean his ability to score inside and outside, score off the dribble, spot up and knock down shots, make plays passing, take the ball out the basket and initiate the break, fill the wing and finish in transition, defend 2 front-court positions, rebound from both the 3 and 4.

Posted by Knight:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Knight:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Knight:

Al Harrington is in his 8th year in the league and about to turn 26--and has only recently been considered close to be an impact player if that's what you want to call him. Give Frye and Curry three more years in the league and I guarantee they will be more "impact" than Harrington at that age.

no they won't. Harrington's skillset is unmatched by any NY big.

You mean his 7 boards in 37 minutes?

no I mean his ability to score inside and outside, score off the dribble, spot up and knock down shots, make plays passing, take the ball out the basket and initiate the break, fill the wing and finish in transition, defend 2 front-court positions, rebound from both the 3 and 4.

Wow, why is Atlanta so bad with this great impact player doing all these marvellous things?

because they don't have a point guard. Taking Williams over Paul was a huge goof.

Posted by Knight:

I would say if you could magically put Frye or Curry on that team after three more years of development the team would be just as good if not better.

[Edited by - Knight on 02-06-2006 12:33 PM]

Frye/Curry are weak without great guard play. The need for a point would be heightened 10-fold.

[Edited by - McK1 on 02-06-2006 12:40 PM]