Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Killa4luv:


Lakers still should have traded him to compete for another chip with Shaq and another superstar.

whaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck


[Edited by - McK1 on 01-23-2006 12:14 AM]

seriously, shaq is not that dominant anymore.

YOu think they would have been a lottery team with Shaq last year? I'm sure they could have at least gotten Marbury, Pierce, someone at that level for Kobe. Would a Pierce/Shaq or Marbury/Shaq combo have missed the playoffs last year and be only around .500 this year? Maybe that combo would be less flashy than Kobe but Killa and I are talk about wins not flash.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 01-23-2006 12:17 AM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Killa4luv:


Lakers still should have traded him to compete for another chip with Shaq and another superstar.

whaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck


[Edited by - McK1 on 01-23-2006 12:14 AM]

seriously, shaq is not that dominant anymore.

YOu think they would have been a lottery team with Shaq last year? I'm sure they could have at least gotten Marbury, Pierce, someone at that level for Kobe. Would a Pierce/Shaq or Marbury/Shaq combo have missed the playoffs last year and be only around .500 this year? Maybe that combo would be less flashy than Kobe but Killa and I are talk about wins not flash.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 01-23-2006 12:17 AM]

i never said they would have been a lottery team. shaq and a good wing player is still a good team, but not a championship team. miami isnt going to win the ring with shaq.

So you're agreeing with me that they would have been a better team by trading Kobe instead of trading Shaq?

not in the long term they wouldnt have been.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Killa4luv:


Lakers still should have traded him to compete for another chip with Shaq and another superstar.

whaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck


[Edited by - McK1 on 01-23-2006 12:14 AM]

Posted by Allanfan20:

As incredible as Kobe was, I have to be flat out honest and takes sides with Bonn on this one. Yes, good job by Kobe for keeping it up while he was still there, but Phil let Kobe beat a horse while it was LOOOOOOOONG dead and should have just pulled Kobe out by the time the outcome was determined.

Isles, Kobe accomplished a lot today, no doubt, but Cones and Well's perfect games are far and miles above that, in terms of that. They were FLAWLESS.

I'm with Bonn. Padding stats is not the way i roll and I'm honestly never for a player taking 46 shots a game. It's anti team bball.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Killa4luv:


Lakers still should have traded him to compete for another chip with Shaq and another superstar.

whaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck


[Edited by - McK1 on 01-23-2006 12:14 AM]

I edited it out before i thought anyone saw it, because I didn't want to have the debate. But since you brought it up yes.

At the time Shaq was traded, if they had traded Kobe instead, they could have gotten any of these players for him + another player:

Paul Pierce
Vince Carter
T-Mac
AI
Ray Allen
Stephon Marbury
Baron Davis
Richard Jefferson

Keep in mind, the Lakers could have gotten any wing player in the league PLUS another good player for him. When you add that plus Shaq, you have a Lakers team that is on par to compete for another championship for several more years. People do pay to see Kobe, but they would pay for a championship contender just the same OR MORE. If I were the GM I would have traded Kobe and gotten one of those guys plus someone else for him, it just makes good sense all around. They missed the playoffs last year and Shaq was in the ECF. That could have been LA in the WCF instead. The Lakers are very very far from winning a championship.



[Edited by - Killa4luv on 01-23-2006 12:28 AM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Killa4luv:


Lakers still should have traded him to compete for another chip with Shaq and another superstar.

whaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck


[Edited by - McK1 on 01-23-2006 12:14 AM]

I edited it out before i thought anyone saw it, because I didn't want to have the debate. But since you brought it up yes.

At the time Shaq was traded, if they had traded Kobe instead, they could have gotten any of these players for him + another player:

Paul Pierce
Vince Carter
T-Mac
AI
Ray Allen
Stephon Marbury
Baron Davis
Richard Jefferson

Keep in mind, the Lakers could have gotten any wing player in the league PLUS another good player for him. When you add that plus Shaq, you have a Lakers team that is on par to compete for another championship for several more years. People do pay to see Kobe, but they would pay for a championship contender just the same OR MORE. If I were the GM I would have traded Kobe and gotten one of those guys plus someone else for him, it just makes good sense all around. They missed the playoffs last year and Shaq was in the ECF. That could have been LA in the WCF instead. The Lakers are very very far from winning a championship.



[Edited by - Killa4luv on 01-23-2006 12:28 AM]

A Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Shaq combo could have won 4 straight titles. Those other players plus Shaq plus one more solid player thrown in a Kobe deal would have been better for the Lakers too. Kobe is a wonderful talent who had a wonderful game. No one is denying that.

how do you figure... shaq is surrounded by a better team than that in miami and they arent going to win a ring, let alone 4. i doubt shaq will even be in the league 3 years after this one.