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jaydh
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12/23/2005  2:29 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Somehow, the Nate attacking Rose while being naked in the shower doesn't strike me as a rumor that would have come true. That sounds like an idiot attempting to start some BS. First off, from everything I gather, Nate looks UP to Rose and I've seen it on the court. Secondly, Nate has said constantly how he loves LB and I just can't see a guy like him (Who seems decently spoken) getting into this vicious arguement with LB. Somehow, I believe something like that, in NY, would spread A LOT faster than just 1 post on real gm.

thats what i'm saying. you telling me no papers would get word of any of these things and report it? Puhlease. its BS

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12/23/2005  2:37 PM
Even if true, its likely to happen on other teams also. Little nate jumpoing rose in the shower is too damm funny!

So what if LB rode Nate too hard and he snapped back! IN fact, I would expect it more than not!

These guys are likely getting ridden very hard and are getting broken down. Laying a winning culture is not easy, especially with a young team, and underachievers.

Marbs must be feeling very down on things. Just cuz he signed up for it does not mean he has to like it. Larry is likely brutal on these dudes and from the ashes will rise up a strong team with character. Just a queston of when.

This will be larry's toughest job. Isiah and LB's jobs are very secure. Nobody is suprised about how tough this job was except a variety of fans who forgot Isiah and LB said this would happen. With a postitive spin of course.

This all makes this season even more interesting.
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12/23/2005  3:04 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Somehow, the Nate attacking Rose while being naked in the shower doesn't strike me as a rumor that would have come true. That sounds like an idiot attempting to start some BS. First off, from everything I gather, Nate looks UP to Rose and I've seen it on the court. Secondly, Nate has said constantly how he loves LB and I just can't see a guy like him (Who seems decently spoken) getting into this vicious arguement with LB. Somehow, I believe something like that, in NY, would spread A LOT faster than just 1 post on real gm.


What are you talking about???

It was just a few days ago Rose admitted in the papers he and Nate fought in the shower. He jokingly said it was over a football bet. And it's been widely rumored that Nate wasn't sidelined for the flu.

Some of you guys just don't keep up with your team.
jaydh
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12/23/2005  3:15 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Somehow, the Nate attacking Rose while being naked in the shower doesn't strike me as a rumor that would have come true. That sounds like an idiot attempting to start some BS. First off, from everything I gather, Nate looks UP to Rose and I've seen it on the court. Secondly, Nate has said constantly how he loves LB and I just can't see a guy like him (Who seems decently spoken) getting into this vicious arguement with LB. Somehow, I believe something like that, in NY, would spread A LOT faster than just 1 post on real gm.


What are you talking about???

It was just a few days ago Rose admitted in the papers he and Nate fought in the shower. He jokingly said it was over a football bet. And it's been widely rumored that Nate wasn't sidelined for the flu.

Some of you guys just don't keep up with your team.

well, your post of Nate fighting rose in the shower over a football bet conflicts the "inside source" saying that it was over rose criticizing Nates D. So, who knows what to believe or who to believe.
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12/23/2005  3:23 PM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Somehow, the Nate attacking Rose while being naked in the shower doesn't strike me as a rumor that would have come true. That sounds like an idiot attempting to start some BS. First off, from everything I gather, Nate looks UP to Rose and I've seen it on the court. Secondly, Nate has said constantly how he loves LB and I just can't see a guy like him (Who seems decently spoken) getting into this vicious arguement with LB. Somehow, I believe something like that, in NY, would spread A LOT faster than just 1 post on real gm.


What are you talking about???

It was just a few days ago Rose admitted in the papers he and Nate fought in the shower. He jokingly said it was over a football bet. And it's been widely rumored that Nate wasn't sidelined for the flu.

Some of you guys just don't keep up with your team.

well, your post of Nate fighting rose in the shower over a football bet conflicts the "inside source" saying that it was over rose criticizing Nates D. So, who knows what to believe or who to believe.

Call me a stupid basketball fan, but I find it hard to fathom that Rose would criticize Nate's D- he is probably our best perimeter defender. Now, Nate might think he's better than he is, and Rose might be trying to take him down a notch

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12/23/2005  3:27 PM
Posted by jaydh:
well, your post of Nate fighting rose in the shower over a football bet conflicts the "inside source" saying that it was over rose criticizing Nates D. So, who knows what to believe or who to believe.

Well I wouldn't believe the people who didn't even know or believe there was a fight in the shower at all, or who didn't know or believe it made it to the papers at all.

Anyway, the guy with the info has been right twice before, as I demonstrated in my original post. That leads me to suspect he's right here, and on top of that, it all makes sense. Even the part about crawford wanting a trade. A few weeks ago on realgm Jamal's sister intimated Jamal was unhappy with events, presumably his not starting, and that something would need to be done. Then a week or so ago someone was posting thru here account (not her, I can recognize her style) saying he was Jamal and that Steph wasn't passing to him and he was tired of it. Now I don't think it was Jamal, my guess it was the sister's son. But I think his thoughts are informed by Jamal. And... it may have been Jamal; she says he told her about the site in the first place. And yes, she's been verified by mods many times and posted old family photos.

So you guys don't have to buy the info, but I can tell you while i don't know the source, it's been an accurate source in the past. I can also tell you that the poster is a good fan and a responsible poster. It would be out of character for him to mess around like this.

Take it for what it's worth...
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12/23/2005  4:31 PM
dont worry blueseats i believe u....something is definately going on, the team has been going down hill for like the past 2 weeks...something has to be wrong. well its only 3 hrs to go until we see more bad body language and another loss as a result...how exciting?!?!
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12/23/2005  4:33 PM
Reezy is tired of running his lane and his point guard puts his head down and drives anyway!

Reezy needs to make his man play honest. The reason he is open is cause teams play off him cause he is not a threat. When he does get the ball on the wing it is very predictable. A drive to the right whether its there or not or a turn over.
I'm venting but its his second year and no noticeable improvement. If anything he has been exposed somewhat.
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12/23/2005  4:39 PM
Call me crazy, but what goes on behind those doors shouldn't affect what goes on ON the court. It doesn't affect Marbury getting torched by Tony Parker nor does it make Channing miss jump shots.

BlueSeats: Keep up with my team? I watched almost all the games and when I miss games I watch the rewinds. I only missed a couple of games and one was the blowout against Atlanta. I'm surw glad I did. I evaluate and analyze what goes on the court. I'm sorry if I don't hang out in the shower room with Malik and Nate. Maybe that's your kind of thing, but I'd rather go on the other side and see Becky Hammond in the shower room. Maybe she can bring Sue Byrd with her or somethin'.
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12/23/2005  4:48 PM
damn allanfan...lol, i think he just meant to say that u missed what rose said to the media about the fight....which was obviously a lie.
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12/23/2005  4:56 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:


BlueSeats: Keep up with my team? I watched almost all the games and when I miss games I watch the rewinds. I only missed a couple of games and one was the blowout against Atlanta. I'm surw glad I did. I evaluate and analyze what goes on the court. I'm sorry if I don't hang out in the shower room with Malik and Nate. Maybe that's your kind of thing, but I'd rather go on the other side and see Becky Hammond in the shower room. Maybe she can bring Sue Byrd with her or somethin'.

Don't take it personally, it's not like I don't respect your opinion on the game. I'm simply referring to the rumor mill and the newspapers.

Sometimes I get a little caught in betwixt assuming people have heard everything I have, or by providing too much backup and being accused of acting like a chick with gossip.

Anyway, not everyone believes in this guy blackbishop but I've yet to see him throw anything out there that was clearly wrong. In his preseason report he mentioned James being out of shape and he was, and he said Mo T got hurt and I believe there were questions about his ability to start.

As for this current report, I'm just surprised that anyone would disbelieve it. We've last 7 in a row and the latest performances have been awful. I don't think this is a well built club, but we've already shown we can play better than we have. Clearly turmoil is taking hold, how can that be doubted?

Listen, a strong club can withstand a certain amount of nonsense. There are skirmishes in every locker room in the league. But these repeated woeful and gutless performances with guys who look like they don't care... that is a team divided.

Logic tells me there are only two people on this team powerful enough to divide it: Brown and Marbury. I suspect they both play a role. You can take your pick of who is more at fault or who will win in a power struggle, but all I know is who the GM believes in and who he'll stand behind till the end.

This isn't "all Steph's fault". But when all is said and done and the GM has to do something to stop the bleeding, Steph will be sacrificed and his role in this, I suspect, is big enough to justify it.
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12/23/2005  5:08 PM
Posted by TymeLessKnicks:

damn allanfan...lol, i think he just meant to say that u missed what rose said to the media about the fight....which was obviously a lie.

allanfan obviously needs to "find a hobby"
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12/23/2005  5:21 PM
Its one thing when Artest asks for a trade or cmplains about minutes, now mediocre players like Chucky Atkins, Q-rich and crawford (who would take his bloated contract) are asking for trades? And Ariza and his 5pts per game is complaining about being taken out of a game? What is this world comming to?
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12/23/2005  5:21 PM
Its one thing when Artest asks for a trade or cmplains about minutes, now mediocre players like Chucky Atkins, Q-rich and crawford (who would take his bloated contract) are asking for trades? And Ariza and his 5pts per game is complaining about being taken out of a game? What is this world comming to?
"Man, who knows with this team." Aguirre.
jaydh
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12/23/2005  5:56 PM
Posted by bigbeast:

Its one thing when Artest asks for a trade or cmplains about minutes, now mediocre players like Chucky Atkins, Q-rich and crawford (who would take his bloated contract) are asking for trades? And Ariza and his 5pts per game is complaining about being taken out of a game? What is this world comming to?



its difficult to believe that a 2nd yr player, who hasnt learned a jumpshot, was drafted in the 2nd round, is only 20, plays for one of the best coaches, got big minutes here right off the bat whereas he wouldnt have with other teams is complaining? If true, hes one co cky mofo. as for qrich, i dont care if qrich asked to be traded, but he cant be that blind to his pathetic performance since the start(he can only blame himself). I thought JC was buying into Brown, and he seems like he is learning and improving, hes still getting more minutes than qrich despite not starting, plus he seems to have good relations with Isiah.
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12/23/2005  6:04 PM
Posted by fishmike:
[b]Posted by Pete99:[/bI hope you realize that almost every trade and acquisition has been spilled by a Garden employee on Real GM before it even hit the presses.
considering every possible scenario that could ever be conceived is posted and discussed on realgm thats not saying much. Maybe the other boards are better but the Knick board is a joke. Crawford's sister occasionaly posts there and says nothing except "I knew this was happening but I couldnt say it"

Sorry, but when you churn out rumors every single day and one out of 1000 actually comes true you cant claim to have reported it first.

Did someone from Real GM take your job? No sane NBA fan would think negatively of a site like that, it's like the secret buzzword of the league. ESPN makes you pay for information that most of the time is an opinion anyway. The Garden employees post their info there, NOT rumors, and Real GM doesn't charge you. If Crawford's sister posts there, and Garden employees post there, and NBA players blog and write stories there, and NBA GMs post there (and give discounts and even tell you that you can sit next to them at the games), you don't honestly think that some of those other posters aren't... nevermind, it is a waste of time to even explain how some NBA players actually do have family members that may be interested in what their related ones are doing on the internet.

BlueSeats: Give it time, not everyone knows about Real GM yet it seems.

bigbeast: Unlike Artest, Crawford and Q-Rich have not publicly asked to be traded. This is why it is called inside info.
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12/23/2005  6:11 PM
Posted by Pete99:
Posted by fishmike:
[b]Posted by Pete99:[/bI hope you realize that almost every trade and acquisition has been spilled by a Garden employee on Real GM before it even hit the presses.
considering every possible scenario that could ever be conceived is posted and discussed on realgm thats not saying much. Maybe the other boards are better but the Knick board is a joke. Crawford's sister occasionaly posts there and says nothing except "I knew this was happening but I couldnt say it"

Sorry, but when you churn out rumors every single day and one out of 1000 actually comes true you cant claim to have reported it first.

Did someone from Real GM take your job? No sane NBA fan would think negatively of a site like that, it's like the secret buzzword of the league. ESPN makes you pay for information that most of the time is an opinion anyway. The Garden employees post their info there, NOT rumors, and Real GM doesn't charge you. If Crawford's sister posts there, and Garden employees post there, and NBA players blog and write stories there, and NBA GMs post there (and give discounts and even tell you that you can sit next to them at the games), you don't honestly think that some of those other posters aren't... nevermind, it is a waste of time to even explain how some NBA players actually do have family members that may be interested in what their related ones are doing on the internet.

BlueSeats: Give it time, not everyone knows about Real GM yet it seems.

bigbeast: Unlike Artest, Crawford and Q-Rich have not publicly asked to be traded. This is why it is called inside info.

I'm glad that you found a site that you like so much. Please understand if some of us are skeptical about some of your claims. The internet makes it possible for people to make claims about who they are that are difficult, if not impossible to verify.

https:// It's not so hard.
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12/23/2005  6:18 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
I'm glad that you found a site that you like so much. Please understand if some of us are skeptical about some of your claims. The internet makes it possible for people to make claims about who they are that are difficult, if not impossible to verify.

I must have sounded like a fanatic, sorry. I come here every morning to read the headlines and head over there if something is brewing. I thought more people knew about that site and was shocked to hear any negativity based on what I've seen. I can't argue with what you've said as it is all completely true, I was skeptical at first too. As BlueSeats said, just take it for what it is.
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12/23/2005  9:49 PM
you know Im pretty sure the info about nate was wrong, king said that nate WAS sick, and trust king more than I do the other guy
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12/23/2005  10:10 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

you know Im pretty sure the info about nate was wrong, king said that nate WAS sick, and trust king more than I do the other guy

Heehee... I trust the other guy better than King.

BTW, Who's king?

Seems a little coincidental Nate gets sick just as a locker room fight is reported.

But hey, who knows...

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