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nyk4ever
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12/21/2005  10:52 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:



Milwaukee traded away Allen, Robinson, Baker, TT. Dallas drafted Nash and Dirk. Miami used capspace to acquire Odom then traded for Shaq and drafted Wade and Caron.

How are you still missing the topic of our conversatoin. Rebuilt and won a CHAMPIONSHIP within 5 years of rebuilding. Furthermore, McK1 brought up the fact of cutting payroll and young players and won a championship within 5 years. That was our conversation....

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-21-2005 10:54 PM]
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12/21/2005  10:54 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:



Milwaukee traded away Allen, Robinson, Baker, TT. Dallas drafted Nash and Dirk. Miami used capspace to acquire Odom then traded for Shaq and drafted Wade and Caron.

How are you still missing the topic of our conversatoin. Rebuilt and won a CHAMPIONSHIP within 5 years of rebuilding.


it only took 2 losing season for Miami to land butler and wade. before then they were a title contender and they are even more of a contender now & Milwaukee was in the playoffs every year



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-21-2005 10:55 PM]
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12/21/2005  10:55 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:



Milwaukee traded away Allen, Robinson, Baker, TT. Dallas drafted Nash and Dirk. Miami used capspace to acquire Odom then traded for Shaq and drafted Wade and Caron.

How are you still missing the topic of our conversatoin. Rebuilt and won a CHAMPIONSHIP within 5 years of rebuilding.


it only took 2 losing season for Miami to land butler and wade. before then they were a title contender and they are even more of a contender now

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-21-2005 10:54 PM]

I'm done. Miami hasn't won a championship. So I dont know what league your watching.
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12/21/2005  10:56 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:



Milwaukee traded away Allen, Robinson, Baker, TT. Dallas drafted Nash and Dirk. Miami used capspace to acquire Odom then traded for Shaq and drafted Wade and Caron.

How are you still missing the topic of our conversatoin. Rebuilt and won a CHAMPIONSHIP within 5 years of rebuilding.


it only took 2 losing season for Miami to land butler and wade. before then they were a title contender and they are even more of a contender now

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-21-2005 10:54 PM]

I'm done. Miami hasn't won a championship. So I dont know what league your watching.


It's not just about winning a championship. not everyone wins a championship. its about building a good team
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12/21/2005  10:57 PM
So its not about winning a championship? Last time I checked it was.
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12/21/2005  11:00 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

So its not about winning a championship? Last time I checked it was.


not overnight. build a good team first. then eventually a contending for a championship becomes reality
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12/21/2005  11:22 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by nyk4ever:

So its not about winning a championship? Last time I checked it was.


not overnight. build a good team first. then eventually a contending for a championship becomes reality

I still think you are missing his point. completely. Just think in two years with shaq aging and breaking down, miami is no longer a contender and they are burdened with shaq's large deal. either way, neither the heat, pheonix, or milwaukee has won a championsip over the past 5 years. And neither has torn it down and completely rebuilt a team, with probably the exception of milwaukee and they haven't won jack,and still are not serious contenders now.. good but not contenders...
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12/21/2005  11:25 PM
For those that didn't click the link, this article saved me...
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I found this article to be pretty interesting
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCJ/is_4_30/ai_96619874


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12/21/2005  11:26 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by nyk4ever:

So its not about winning a championship? Last time I checked it was.


not overnight. build a good team first. then eventually a contending for a championship becomes reality

I still think you are missing his point. completely. Just think in two years with shaq aging and breaking down, miami is no longer a contender and they are burdened with shaq's large deal. either way, neither the heat, pheonix, or milwaukee has won a championsip over the past 5 years. And neither has torn it down and completely rebuilt a team, with probably the exception of milwaukee and they haven't won jack,and still are not serious contenders now.. good but not contenders...


I'm talking about in comparison to where we've been the past 5yrs. We've been a 30win team for 5yrs and now we're actually regressing and throwing money and picks at guys like Taylor & JJ. Right now I wish our future was looking as bright as the Bucks'



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-21-2005 11:27 PM]
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12/21/2005  11:28 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:


I'm talking about in comparison to where we've been the past 5yrs. We've been a 30win team for 5yrs and now we're actually regressing and throwing money and picks at guys like Taylor & JJ. Right now I wish our future was looking as bright as the Bucks'



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-21-2005 11:27 PM]

Your still missing the point completely. We were talking about teams that tore things down and won a championship within 5 years. What your talking about is completely different, I don't get where the your topic comes in line with ours.

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12/21/2005  11:31 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:


I'm talking about in comparison to where we've been the past 5yrs. We've been a 30win team for 5yrs and now we're actually regressing and throwing money and picks at guys like Taylor & JJ. Right now I wish our future was looking as bright as the Bucks'



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-21-2005 11:27 PM]

Your still missing the point completely. We were talking about teams that tore things down and won a championship within 5 years. What your talking about is completely different, I don't get where the your topic comes in line with ours.


but the heat, pistons & bucks tour it down and it only took 1-2yrs. by tearing it down i mean trading virtually the entire team and also drafting

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-21-2005 11:33 PM]
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12/21/2005  11:34 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:



but the heat and the bucks tour it down and it only took 1-2yrs

I can't believe your still missing this. The Heat and Bucks didn't win a championship. FOR THE LAST TIME, this discussion was about teams that tore it down and won a championship within 5 years!! The Heat and Bucks have not won anything AND the Bucks have been rebuilding for atleast 15 years.

Edit: Thats what I don't get, your topic is different then ours. Your tearing it down and trading away all players we're talking about winning a championship.. totally different.


[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-21-2005 11:35 PM]
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12/21/2005  11:35 PM
guns and nyk, it's interesting, I was starting the thread throwing in the towel on even posting here, but you bring up an interesting point, this is still only year 2 of the Zeke rebuilding plan, if and wen we get to 5 years and we're contending like the Heat, then it was a successful rebuild by the majority of the broken fans like me, heck, next year playing better and getting to the playoffs second round works.

I'm just devastated because I was duped into thinking we were better than we were and that brown was going to take the players we have and stitch together some wins and a playoff birth.

it seems as if zeke and lb are going the complete Florida Marlin plan, tear the entire team down, SUCK big time and then rise from the ashes with hardened full knick players that bleed orange and blue.

OH well, I'll keep posting until fishy and islesfan put me out of my misery, then i'll attack martin and get banned. It's the only way to go out.

I mean, if I was the NYKnicks, I would encourage my fans to avoid the message board that criticizes the players and wants them all traded.

I mean, you own a company, would you want your clients going to a site asking that the Vice President go to hell and get traded for two college grads?

I'm still going to say I lied in saying that we were going to content this year and taht it was going to be better under brown this year...I'm on suicide watch.

Eff you know who.

Also, I meant to say Zeke, LB and Marbs must GO!

martin, ban me please, I don't deserve to post in my condition.
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12/21/2005  11:36 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:



but the heat and the bucks tour it down and it only took 1-2yrs

I can't believe your still missing this. The Heat and Bucks didn't win a championship. FOR THE LAST TIME, this discussion was about teams that tore it down and won a championship within 5 years!! The Heat and Bucks have not won anything AND the Bucks have been rebuilding for atleast 15 years.


oh well then the original argument is stupid and shouldn't even be given the light of day then
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12/21/2005  11:36 PM
i take it back, if banning me prevents me from reading...maybe you can stop my posting or something...oh, wait, I'll stop myself.

Farewell fans. eff off isles!
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12/21/2005  11:37 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:



but the heat and the bucks tour it down and it only took 1-2yrs

I can't believe your still missing this. The Heat and Bucks didn't win a championship. FOR THE LAST TIME, this discussion was about teams that tore it down and won a championship within 5 years!! The Heat and Bucks have not won anything AND the Bucks have been rebuilding for atleast 15 years.


oh well then the original argument is stupid and shouldn't even be given the light of day then

So is your argument. You can't even understand what we're talking about...
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12/21/2005  11:39 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by gunsnewing:



but the heat and the bucks tour it down and it only took 1-2yrs

I can't believe your still missing this. The Heat and Bucks didn't win a championship. FOR THE LAST TIME, this discussion was about teams that tore it down and won a championship within 5 years!! The Heat and Bucks have not won anything AND the Bucks have been rebuilding for atleast 15 years.


oh well then the original argument is stupid and shouldn't even be given the light of day then

So is your argument. You can't even understand what we're talking about...

you mean thats not it? i give up..
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12/21/2005  11:40 PM
good article..
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12/21/2005  11:42 PM
why would you waste time arguing with someone who thinks we win a championship next year after tearing it down? it could take 1,2,3,4,5 who knows how many years
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12/21/2005  11:42 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

i take it back, if banning me prevents me from reading...maybe you can stop my posting or something...oh, wait, I'll stop myself.

Farewell fans. eff off isles!

DAMMIT MAN! Pull Yourself Together! Youve got plenty of reasons not to throw in the towel, Like for example............................ actually thats all Ive got so far

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