[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THESE INSANE RUMORS START UP: KG 2 NY!!!
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 3 of 20 ‹ Previous 1  2  3  4  5 Next ›Last »
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
Caseloads
Posts: 27725
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/29/2001
Member: #41
11/21/2005  4:28 PM
dont trade channing!
AUTOADVERT
boomann
Posts: 20685
Alba Posts: 26
Joined: 6/29/2005
Member: #938
USA
11/21/2005  4:28 PM
Although, I'd hate to see Channing go.

They can have any one of our young guys except Channing. He has a whole lot of more playing to do while unfortunatly for Da Kid he has done a lot of playing and his playing days will start to wind down soon.
"We need another shot blocker and we need more girth in the middle, once that happens we have a chance to be a pretty decent team" Isiah on draft night
CTKnicksfan
Posts: 20312
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/24/2004
Member: #572
11/21/2005  4:28 PM
I would not give up the farm for KG at this point.

"Flipping" expiting contracts is one thing, which Dolanbucks make possible. They are an asset too. I'd like to see what we could get for just Penny or AD at the deadline. GS got Baron without adding picks/prospects in the deal. Best to keep the young core intact if we can.

If Dolan/IT/LB is dead set on KG, then Frye (I think Minny would insist), Nate, Butler is as far as I'd go. Forget about them taking Curry, Q, even Craw. They all make too much money. If they trade with the Knicks, it's for our ability to provide cap reielf + some nice young pieces. If they are taking big salaries back that aren't expiring (like RJ or Sheed), Both Detroit and Net offers would trump ours quite easily.
Panos
Posts: 30446
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 1/6/2004
Member: #520
11/21/2005  4:33 PM
OngBoing, You post the most ridiculous trades.
You think you're going to get KG AND dump JJ's contract in the same trade? Why would Minnie do that? If the point is to dump salary, why would they take back that fat ass piece of **** that has played a total of 18 minutes in 10 games cuz he can't keep his fat ****ing fingers out of the doughnut box? Do us all a favor and stop posting trade scenarios.
newyorknewyork
Posts: 30255
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #541
11/21/2005  4:33 PM
Any deal for KG would have to have Frye in it for Minny to even stay on the phone for 5 seconds. There are other teams that could offer more talent then the Knicks to. But our advantage would be the amount of salary we would be willing to take back. But we have so many contracts already that would also be a weakness for us.

Jaric, Hudson, Wally all have contracts that they would want to dump. Its a dangerous as well as a very profitable move. Because if Isiah goes all out then we would have a crazy salary cap all the way up to 2009/2010.

Jamal Crawford, Ariza, Fyre, maybe Lee, Penny &/or AD as cap filler future picks for Hudson, Wally, KG.

Minny could field, Crawford, Mcants, Jaric backcourt, Ariza at SF, Lee PF, Fyre center. And build from there with there picks.

Marbury/Garnett with Wally, Rich, Hudson, Curry as role players is a pretty deep team.
https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
efw
Posts: 20668
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/10/2005
Member: #1002
11/21/2005  4:40 PM
how does it benefit Minny to make that trade then... It doesn't!

Spoken like a true Knicks fan!

However, as hard as it is to accept, NY is not the only trading partner for Minnesota. If they wait until the summer, they could trade KG to any number of teams willing to part with younger stars, take Wally or Kandi off their hands, and maybe even give them a future expiring contract. I still see no reason for Minny to panic and trade Kevin before the summer.

Now, that doesn't mean that we still couldn't put together a package. Mo taylor I believe, expires the following season and could help them for a year. We give him plus Q? + Frye + Nate, it may get it done. With all the picks we've been giving up, I don't see how we can trade anymore.

As Nalod said, we need a center next to KG and therefore Curry needs to stay. I doubt Minny would want to take a chance on him anyway. Giving up Frye would be painful. NY was where he's wanted to play since he was a boy and it's a pleasure to watch him live out that dream. BUT, he would hardly get any PT next to Garnett anyway.
OngBok
Posts: 20899
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 5/1/2005
Member: #894
Thailand
11/21/2005  4:42 PM
djsunyc i'm just being realistic about what minny would want in return for KG.
Isiah Thomas will lead us back to the playoffs in 2006 !!!
boomann
Posts: 20685
Alba Posts: 26
Joined: 6/29/2005
Member: #938
USA
11/21/2005  4:54 PM
Giving up Frye would be painful. NY was where he's wanted to play since he was a boy and it's a pleasure to watch him live out that dream. BUT, he would hardly get any PT next to Garnett anyway.

If Malik Rose can play sf why can't KG. Garnett, Frye and Curry would have other fronlines giving up before the game even starts
"We need another shot blocker and we need more girth in the middle, once that happens we have a chance to be a pretty decent team" Isiah on draft night
JayNYC
Posts: 20732
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 6/7/2004
Member: #682
USA
11/21/2005  5:00 PM
Not for nothing I'd make this KG/Wally trade:

Antonio Davis, Penny Hardaway, Channing Frye, Nate Robinson, and a 1st rd pick in 06 for Kevin Garnett and Wally Szczerbiak

AND THEN FOLLOW IT UP WITH:

Quentin Richardson to Portland for Ruben Patterson and a 2nd rd pick
and
Malik Rose to Cleveland for Eric Snow and Alan Henderson

Curry/James/Butler
Garnett/Lee/Henderson
Szczerbiak/Ariza/Barnes
Marbury/Patterson
Snow/Crawford

Now I know.. we just took on tons of salary in this trade proposal. But so what, we WIN.. and that's really all we should want after 36 yrs without a chip
Inhale deep like the words of my breath/ I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death-- Circa 1994 Nasty Nas: NY State of Mind
Killa4luv
Posts: 27769
Alba Posts: 51
Joined: 6/23/2002
Member: #261
USA
11/21/2005  5:21 PM
I would not want to give up Frye or Curry. At least one has to stay for our future, and I think I'd prefer Frye. I'd give up every other younster plus the two expirings for KG.

they can have Jackie, Nate, Ariza, and whoever the hell else. Play hard ball, they want the savings and they can have the picks, if we have any left. Throw some more cash into the pot.
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
11/21/2005  5:23 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I would not want to give up Frye or Curry. At least one has to stay for our future, and I think I'd prefer Frye. I'd give up every other younster plus the two expirings for KG.

they can have Jackie, Nate, Ariza, and whoever the hell else. Play hard ball, they want the savings and they can have the picks, if we have any left. Throw some more cash into the pot.


I agree. if one has to go I'd rather give up Curry since his achilles seems to be his Stamina. I'm not sure if Curry will ever be able to log over 30mins on that heart and body
martin
Posts: 79054
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
11/21/2005  5:23 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I would not want to give up Frye or Curry. At least one has to stay for our future, and I think I'd prefer Frye. I'd give up every other younster plus the two expirings for KG.

they can have Jackie, Nate, Ariza, and whoever the hell else. Play hard ball, they want the savings and they can have the picks, if we have any left. Throw some more cash into the pot.


I agree with this. Curry and Frye have to stay. Anything else is fair game.
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
11/21/2005  5:38 PM
I've read about half this thread.


Trading for Kevin Garnett is 1 of those "No-Brainer" type acquisitions. This has nothing to do with star appeal, or being a KG fan, or the possible reunion of Steph and Kevin...

This is about winning a championship, and as much as I like Frye, Nate, and Co. , KG is 1 of those few players that can make you an instant contender.

Let's not forget what we've been talking about recently, about how Stephon has a history of not "trusting" certain teammates b/c he doesn't view them as on "his level". It's not a theory, it's a fact. That's why he's been branded as "selfish".

Well...guess what. KG is one of the FEW stars that Steph would feel he could trust, who he could feel he could lean on. KG is one of the most UNSELFISH players in the league.

No doubt in my mind - a Marbury and KG reunion would bring a championship back to NY.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 11-21-2005 5:39 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
11/21/2005  5:54 PM
Posted by fishmike:

lets establish 1 thing. Its NOT AD/Penny for KG/Wally. It NEVER is. Its AD/Penny + Frye, Nate, Ariza and 2 #1s for KG/Wally. Is that worth it for a guy about to hit 30?


We can't trade anymore # 1's.

The we could do is trade most of our youngings, which is like a bunch of # 1's in and of itself.

I'd be curious why Minnesota wouldn't demand we take back Hudson as well...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
11/21/2005  5:57 PM
Not for nothing if this trade was ever consumated, Wally is a pretty good player himself. He's a lights out shooter which is something this team lacks ever so desperately. Obviously I know when you get Garnett that shooting isnt AS important as it would be WITHOUT having KG but Wally is a damn good player. His contract is a little big but the Knicks wouldn't be under the cap by the time his contract was up anyways.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
11/21/2005  5:58 PM
I agree with this. Curry and Frye have to stay. Anything else is fair game.


Don't think we'd have a choice. Minnesota would probly request 1 or the other, and it will probly end up being Frye b/c he makes next to nothing so it would coincide with the whole "cap space" plan.


Oh...and if Frye is the holdup in negotiations to net KG.....to be quite frank.....you're 1 dumb motherfu!ker.

Not you......Isiah.





[Edited by - bobs3304 on 11-21-2005 5:59 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
Killa4luv
Posts: 27769
Alba Posts: 51
Joined: 6/23/2002
Member: #261
USA
11/21/2005  6:01 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
I agree with this. Curry and Frye have to stay. Anything else is fair game.


Don't think we'd have a choice. Minnesota would probly request 1 or the other, and it will probly end up being Frye b/c he makes next to nothing so it would coincide with the whole "cap space" plan.


Oh...and if Frye is the holdup in negotiations to net KG.....to be quite frank.....you're 1 dumb motherfu!ker.

Not you......Isiah.





[Edited by - bobs3304 on 11-21-2005 5:59 PM]
I'd sign Jermain Jackson to 1 year 5 million dollars just to not give them FRYE!!!!

Then I'd send some contract hitmen and make sure Jermain Jackson returns 4.6 of that **** E-mediately!!!!
NotFrye
Posts: 20353
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 6/29/2005
Member: #935
11/21/2005  6:13 PM
Unless KG pushes hard for it to happen, this trade is a pipe dream...
rvhoss
Posts: 24943
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/2/2004
Member: #777
Switzerland
11/21/2005  6:17 PM
so the nets give RJ and kristic and we give up our entire future?

Just doesn't make any sense.

maybe I'm missing something.

If they don't want expiring and future picks, they can take a hike.
Posted by MaRbUrYiSaKnIcK:
Posted by JayNYC:


This is likely the trade:

Antonio Davis, Penny Hardaway, Trevor Ariza, Channing Frye, Nate Robinson and a future protected 1st rd pick for Kevin Garnett and Wally Szczerbiak

thats like the future of the knicks were throwing away for a aging superstar and a injury prone hometown kid


all kool aid all the time.
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
11/21/2005  6:24 PM
Here's what I think.

I think the Knicks would have the inside track on any deal for KG b/c I don't think it would be particularly smart of Taylor or Mchale to deal him for equal talent. Or TRY, I should say.

Not only can you NOT get equal talent for KG, but no matter who you get in return for him, you lose TONS of money b/c KG is the face of that orginization and has been for a decade.

If you're parting with Garnett, you do so b/c you realze you have no realistic way to upgrade your team any further than it is already. The Wolves will be lucky if they can net the 8th seed come playoff time. I mean, cmon, the other night he had to put up a triple double (actually 1 assist shy) just to beat the Wizards.

He has NO help, and the way things are looking, I don't see any help coming in the near future. They won't have any outstanding lottery picks, they don't have many tradeable assets, and no one likes to play in Minnesota, so forget about netting any worthwhile FA's...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
Page 3 of 20 ‹ Previous 1  2  3  4  5 Next ›Last »
« Reply To Topic
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THESE INSANE RUMORS START UP: KG 2 NY!!!
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy