Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

I'll feel a lot better about the future once Marbury who is the key to our identity is gone

Who do you want to be the PG. Instead of just saying you want him off the team or anyone off the team for that matter, who would like to run the point for the Knicks that the Knicks have a legit shot at trading for?

anyone just make a move that will get young defensive minded, fundamentally sound players & draft picks. We had charlie ward as our PG for 10yrs and won more games, I'm sure we'll find someone to run the offense

Patrick Ewing, Larry Johnson, John Starks and Allan Houston were also playing on those teams. None of those guys really matter other then Ewing. Put Ewing with any PG and your golden. Ward was a prodcut of the system and last I remember most people were pretty happy to see Charlie Ward leave town.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I guess it doesnt matter. Everyone has their opinions and theres no use trying to change them. The sky is falling everyone.

Posted by PresIke:

I want the Knicks to do well too, but I'm also not willing to ring the death knoll afet 4 games. Last season the Bulls stared 0-9 and made the playoffs. I think we've played disappointingly as well, but I've seen signs of hope, and want to see how most of the season pans out before deciding the entire team is crap.

Posted by BRIGGS:

this isnt real gm hoss. the post had very litle to do with draft picks, but since you are brain farting outloud

A--2006 pick CONVEYED to Chicago with NO restriction
SA pick retricted to 14 and Utah OWNS it if the spurs have a top 5 record, if nOT it becomes very close to unrestricted in 2008
2006 ,2007,2008 2nd round picks all traded

B 2007 Chicago has the right to swap picks. If we get pick 1 in EITHER 2006 or 2007 its chicago's 2nd rounder gone that menas if chicago is picking 24 and we are picking 7, we give them 7 if we get greg oden, we give him to chicago. we could literally get the 1 pick 3 years in a row from 2006-2008 and give them all away.

C_utah--now we either make a payof this year if SA is a top 5 team or we do retain this pick. if we dont, its at the mercy oif very little restriction, and oh by the way its a pretty long time from now anyway.

if this was realgm I would have locked your crazy post from the start, but for some reason some crazy reason you have carte blanche around here to post untruths..

anyway, you still didn't prove a thing, if the knicks for some odd reason don't get a pick in 2007, they would have satisfied their picks being owed to the jazz(via the suns) and the bulls ... that would mean in 2007 Briggs, they would only have to SWAP picks with the bulls that means they would get a first round pick in return Briggs... and in 2008 we still have our first round pick, now how in the hell is what you said anywhere close to the truth?

and your post had everything to do with the picks, because you posted that BS to make the situation look worse that it really is, you are fooling no one man... just cut it out. Have a little integrity when you post, even when you are frustrated.... It helps in promoting a good thread and good conversation..

Posted by tomverve:

Just another day in the life of Briggs!

BRIGGS: i stubbed my toe oww it hurts it is NEVER going to get better i am dead in the water. oh me oh my oohhh poor me ohh things will never change

BRIGGS's cat: Briggs, might you be overreacting? Just the other day you were practically foaming at the mouth over your toe's potential.

BRIGGS: i am not bipolar

BRIGGS's cat: I didn't say you were.

BRIGGS: nice kitty

Posted by PresIke:

Posted by MX25:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by MX25:

Briggs is Correct. This team is so flawed it's not even funny. This is not an NBA Team. More like a street ball team.

OHHHHH LOOK AT CRAWFORD PUT BALL BETWEEN HIS LEGS AND AROUND HIS BACK. We not playing NBA Street here guys.

When Curry trade happened mostly everyone said "We def making playoffs and we gonna win 45-50 games"...then we start 0-4 and it's "We are rebuilding". Which is it? 45-50 win playoff team or rebuilding? Can't do both.

good point. which is it???

The Bulls started 0-9 last season while working in three rookies and went on to win 47 games. Which were they doing?

Bulls also played aside from spurs and pistons the best man and team defense in nba.

Ummm...the Bulls were not a good defensive team to start the season last year. Check the stats. They gave up over 100 pts in 5 of the first 9 games (all of which they lost) and 94, 97, 98, 99 in the others. Sorry, that's not the sign of a good defensive team.

Once again you are falling prey to hindsight and a lack of perspective on the Bulls start to last season.

I saw far better signs of defensive intensity than last year, and if you don't you are not watching the games. The second half was atrocious, and we need to work on A LOT OF THINGS, but we are not toast just yet.

The Bulls sucked to start last season too. Tey had poor defense and their players played terribily as well. That's the cold hard reality, regardless of how much one wants to make refutable distinctions like their suppossedly superior players or defense to start last season.

excellent post.... and a refreshing voice of reasoning...

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by PresIke:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by PresIke:

I want the Knicks to do well too, but I'm also not willing to ring the death knoll afet 4 games. Last season the Bulls stared 0-9 and made the playoffs. I think we've played disappointingly as well, but I've seen signs of hope, and want to see how most of the season pans out before deciding the entire team is crap.

I hope so too but the bulls had hinrich, gordon and duhon in the backcourt we have Marbury

Your perspective on the Bulls' players is filled with hindsight and lack of perspective. Those guys were not as highly rated after their 0-9 start. In fact Gordon was bashed repeatedly by the media as a bust and the rest of the team was labeled wack as they had been for years.

I'm not saying we will repeat their turn around, but let's see what happens first. Larry Brown is not a scrub coach, and knows more than most. He has a difficult situation to deal with, having so many new players and being his first season with the team.




[Edited by - PresIke on 11-10-2005 02:29 AM]

I understand but I've been hearing the samething from fans for the past 5yrs and we have yet to truely rebuild and are still plasying overpaid veterans over youth