Posted by tkf:
Solace I have been married a while now. believe me, it is all a big give and take, to me I look at my relationship with my wife like running a puppet govt, except she doesn't have a clue... Let her think she is in charge, never argue or try to win the small battles, let her win enough of those, but when the big battles occur, I make sure I win those, and the sweet thing is, she doesn't really know the big from the small battles.. It works well for me... I have friends that try to win everything when it comes to their wives, because they feel they are entitled to this and they deserve that.... blah, blah, blah, and they are the ones who spend sleepless nights trying to find ways to make up for all that mess they created.... but even after all of this I bet you still think I am pwned...
hey my oldest brother thinks I am pwned, if thats is how you spell it, but hey, he is 45, single, and on his 25th relationship... My wife is cool, hardworker,and a great mother, I don't ask for much, just a good meal, sex on demand, and my sports and I am cool..
Well, see, here's the thing. If that's what makes you happy, that's cool. Part of what I said was just teasing (like the bj thing). I was serious about the futon, though. You'd have to sleep on my floor.

If you're happy and she's happy, then maybe you're not pwned. However...
For those of us who have different asperations, it works differently. For example, I want to start my own business at some point (I'm at least 5 years away, but you get the idea). If I have a woman spending all of my money, it takes away that possiblity. If I try to spend time working on something that's important to me and perhaps important to my future career, I don't need to hear her tell me that I'm not spending enough time with her, when the "quality time" she mentions is her bitching about how much her life sucks.
You're right. It's a give and take. The problem is that I haven't met any women that give very much, just take. Right now my guard is very high, so it would be very tough for a woman to change how I feel. Honestly, I'd rather stay single than wind up with the wrong woman.
Posted by Nalod:
Sol. A smart independent women that does not "need" but can create and add to your life is a wonderful thing.
The love of a good women is hard to beat.
Im married almost 20 years. I am one lucky MF.
Well, again, maybe there's a few good ones out there. The ratio seems to be pretty slim, at least from people that I personally know. I have trouble fathoming that there might be a woman out there who actually wants to go out of her way to give as much as she receives. So far, the most closeness I've felt is a hand enter my pants, and then realizing she's going for my wallet again.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.