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islesfan
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10/18/2005  12:36 PM
Posted by boomann:
Don't forget the draft picks. The draft picks that we've given up in trades have been and have the potential to be a lot higher than any of the much celebrated picks that Isiah has acquired.

It was Isiah's pick to give away since he got it in the Malik Rose trade. We still have one more pick for next year's draft and judging from Isiah's eye for talent, that's all we need is one pick. The other pick he just agreed to swap in 2007 and that's still leaves us with a 1st rounder in that draft also. I don't see how you can be critical of this move. We got Eddy Curry and David Lee for Nazr Mohammed, Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetny and a 1st rd pick. Would ya'll rather have those three dudes back?


Isiah's pick to give away? What are you talking about? And it wasn't the Spurs pick that we got in the Rose deal that we traded. It was our own pick next year which I'm going to have to say will be a lot better than the Spurs pick.
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10/18/2005  12:37 PM
Posted by islesfan:

I understand what you say about Camby but Curry has yet to display the work ethic or desire to develop into the type of defender and rebounder that he should be with his size. Coaching can help but either he's willing to put in the effort of he isn't.

We can agree to disagree on Curry's health but I'm not sure how you can say that it wasn't his heart. He was diagnosed with a heart arrhythmia. The cause may be unknown but the heart arryhthmia was why he was shut down last year as a precaution.

Nate definitely has speed but what about the 80% of the time when the game is played in the half court? On offense he doesn't have the shooting ability that Muggsy had. He's not a great passer and he's a liability on defense because of his height. I'm not saying that he can't play in this league and he can't have any success but seriously, what can be expected of him other than a high energy role player off the bench?

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10/18/2005  12:38 PM
Posted by boomann:

I don't see how you can be critical of this move. We got Eddy Curry and David Lee for Nazr Mohammed, Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetny and a 1st rd pick. Would ya'll rather have those three dudes back?

I didn't criticize this move. I criticized acquiring Tim Thomas in the first place. By the way, please notice that we gave up 3 players that started on our team + a pick for 1 starter with a questionable heart and a good rookie who might not see the light of day off the bench (though I like him and pray he does). So I like the trade, but it was no brilliant stroke either.
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10/18/2005  12:41 PM
Isiah's pick to give away? What are you talking about? And it wasn't the Spurs pick that we got in the Rose deal that we traded. It was our own pick next year which I'm going to have to say will be a lot better than the Spurs pick.

You haven't answered my question. Would you rather have those three guys back and keep the pick? And who has done a better job than Isiah this off season? I know they are critical questions but, some response would be nice since you call me the fantasy man. Let me see where your head is at.
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10/18/2005  12:56 PM
I didn't criticize this move. I criticized acquiring Tim Thomas in the first place. By the way, please notice that we gave up 3 players that started on our team + a pick for 1 starter with a questionable heart and a good rookie who might not see the light of day off the bench (though I like him and pray he does). So I like the trade, but it was no brilliant stroke either

well that was a middle of the road response. I wasn't expecting that, well I'll just take the wait and see approach rather than to continue arguing. I'll just like to end by saying GO Knicks and I hope ya'll get on the bandwagon before it leaves the station
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10/18/2005  1:17 PM
I'm already on the bandwagon, brother. I'm excited about this season, and I never expected that we'd have hope so quickly after Laydumb's disaster. All I'm saying is that some of Isiah's moves have been questionable, and that he's not perfect.
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10/18/2005  1:30 PM
Curry was diagnosed with a heart arrhythmia.
I thought it was a BENIGN arrhythmia
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10/18/2005  1:34 PM
Nate definitely has speed but what about the 80% of the time when the game is played in the half court? On offense he doesn't have the shooting ability that Muggsy had. He's not a great passer and he's a liability on defense because of his height. I'm not saying that he can't play in this league and he can't have any success but seriously, what can be expected of him other than a high energy role player off the bench?
Nate was a great shooter in college. He may struggle from the 3 point NBA line but Nate has a hell of a jumper. I would say he's a little streaky but he's a slightly better shooter than Marbury. He's got a good mid range game.

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thought it was a BENIGN arrhythmia
it was
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10/18/2005  3:59 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Curry was diagnosed with a heart arrhythmia.
I thought it was a BENIGN arrhythmia

Which makes this a BENIGN SNIT!
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