David Lee stays.

Good.

Madison Square Garden has not had a Caucasian player with his skill-set in a long time.

I liked him the moment he won the slam dunk contest in High School.

Lee stays.

Get over it

Posted by misterearl:

David Lee stays.

Good.

Madison Square Garden has not had a Caucasian player with his skill-set in a long time.

I liked him the moment he won the slam dunk contest in High School.

Lee stays.

Get over it

First off, you can say white guy, Im positive no one will be offended--- the word caucasian reminds me of a species of caveman or something. Secondly, Im quite positive he will be much much better than Tom Riker but he is not exactly Tommy Chambers, and the real *caucasian* mishap was in 1978 when we took Sugar Ray Richardson over Larry Bird. Seriously, i could care less if the guy was green purple or blue, we made a darn mistake to pay all those draft picks for anyone drafted 30 who is unproven. it was stupid, but its also done

I'm inclined to agree with Briggs but its 100% hearsay. This whole discussion is based on the assumption that it was David Lee or ALL the draft picks. How do we know it wasn't Lee and the 06 #1 + the right to move in 07? Or Lee and the both #2's? I'm more along the line of thinking that the deal was Lee AND some combo of draft picks. Instead Isiah was more willing to make an ADDITIONAL concession in the draft rather than include.

Does anyone think this deal would have gone down as Lee, Sweetney, Davis and no draft concessions?

Whats a more realistic gamble? Curry becoming a star or a chance to draft Greg Oden?

These are the kinds of gambles I'm ok with Isiah taking. So we lose Marbury and Curry for a season. I dont buy for a NY minute that with LB coaching and Crawford, Q, Rose, Nate, Mo T, JJ, Ariza, Lee, Frye and co. that we are cellar dwelling fodder. Hell, we probably win at least as many games as we did last year.

The concern for not having a safety net is legit. I dont think the Lee/picks consession arguement is fair because its guessing. As for Curry what can we say? He's the type of player that when we put out scenarios to trade for Briggs usually laughs at us. Dalembert, Curry, Chandler, etc...

Well, pending a physical we got one. I just hope he has a long healthy career

------The Knicks are in salary-cap hell with immense pressure on the organization to win.



It ain't your money

There is ALWAYS pressure to win in New York

That is not news

[ real *caucasian* mishap was in 1978 when we took Sugar Ray Richardson over Larry Bird. Seriously, i could care less if the guy was green purple or blue, we made a darn mistake to pay all those draft picks for anyone drafted 30 who is unproven. it was stupid, but its also done

So you've been like this for 25 years?

Larry Bird was taken by boston a year before he left school. HE was like 23 and I think the NBA had some funky rule back then that you could draft an eligable player before he left school.

Michael Ray was Rookie of the year, and if not for fondness of white powder Ma, he was "Magic"!

I hear you Briggs, but second guessing can be maddening!

Don't think Lee's Marketablility is not considerable also. Us Caucasian, oops, I mean "honkey" need Jersey's also! It was tough having KVH. He had a world of talent, could rebound and shoot. The softness wasn't so bad either. It was the goofy socks and "ED Grimley" hair due that made him so difficult. That and he as traded for SPree! Spree was the defient black panther cool dude who took no crap from no one and was liked for his hustle, ultra talent, and cool manner. Put that up against the Goofy KVH and im surprised we did not have a race riot!

Greg Oden is an Atlanta Hawk! While Shoyt happens, Eddie is not Timmy, nor Michael, nor Shaq, nor Wilt and if he goes down we still have many power forwards to fill in for his, or Sweets loss to keep us at or near .500.

If we should falter terribly, in 07' and miss that pick, the nets should be in the flatlands and we can always root for NY's "other" team!

i think we need to take a step back and chill for a second. do you all think isiah would make this trade if curry is not able to play b/c of his heart? we're putting him through 2 days of intense medical exams and if he passes it, then we just brought in a 22 year old center that could be THE FRANCHISE PLAYER for the next decade. i don't get the arguing about picks and lee stuff. we took back the best player in the deal, while getting rid of 1 good player and one that's not part of our future plans. and 3 picks. we have a very good young core here - craw, ariza, lee, frye, nate, curry - that's SIX players and i'm not even counting Q. we have a 22 year old center THAT CAN PLAY and has the potential to be ELITE. in essence, picks are always good to have b/c their assets but how many more guys under 25 do we need to develop.

and it's not like we have lenny wilkens or an rookie coach like herb. we have larry F'N brown. i've rided isiah big time before and sweetney is my boy but you CAN NOT nit pick about this deal. we are putting curry through physicals and if he passes, we just made a trade for a player that could seriously make us legitimate contenders for a long long time.

i think it was fish who said it before, curry could take us places sweetney can't. and if LB, isiah, and paxson (who wanted to get another #1 to take lee) all are praising david lee, then don't you think that there's something good there?

yes, we don't know what will happen with those picks but are you going to turn down a deal for eddy curry b/c of that?

i have a lot more to say about the team in general, and that'll be for another post, but it's not koolaid fellas, this is the best squad we've had in a while and it's not just for this year, it's for a couple AT LEAST. it's OK to be optimistic for once. we have the best coach in the game with a bunch of players with all the tools that need to be coached by him.

times are good. let's start to enjoy them.

Posted by misterearl:


------The Knicks are in salary-cap hell with immense pressure on the organization to win.



It ain't your money

There is ALWAYS pressure to win in New York

That is not news

mister.earl, you know we are cool from the NY Times forum, but the pressure to win and the Knicks salary cap situation does dictate the behavoir and limitations of what the organization can do. If we were a team that has no problem 'blowing it up' when things go sour, then I don't think you would see this trade being made. Am I saying this is bad? No, I'm just expressing what is a likely reality.

That's all I'm saying.