Posted by fishmike:

I'm always game. I work in the city have a pair of sneaks for walking to the train. Hell... I will race ya down 5th Ave when the lights change. 50 yard dash is my forte but I can handle 100. Anything longer and I poop out.

I didnt used to think I was very fast. Good speed for sure, but not *fast*
Yet everytime I race a guy I think has bigtime speed I win. I'm kind of just waiting to lose in a way.. go figure.

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by martin:

Why? I think it will be solid double digits for sure. With all of the doubling for Amare and Nash someone is going to get shots and Kurt is nasty from 12-15 feet. Especially if his defener is going to double, which is likely.

I think that will help Marion more han Kurt. Also, I doubt KT will be able to run up and down with the rest of the Suns. I think KT will be used mostly for defense and very rarely on offense.

Posted by oohah:


Enyspree I cannot impress this on you enough. DON'T RUSH BACK!!!! Do not try to do anything that puts undue torque or lateral pressure (Pivoting and cutting.) on your knee until you feel 100%. While your knee is weak you are ripe for a meniscus tear. Probably other injuries too. In addition, you will probably weigh more than you are used to, so that only adds to the risk. As I am sure you know, basketball is very streesful to your knee, more than most sports. When you are recovering from a knee injury it can be dangerous. Do basketball drills before you try to actually play. Play with some buddies that know you are hurt to practice before you try to play competively.

If your knee feels weak or anything like it in January, don't force yourself back. Trust me, the alternative is worse.

Did you have a cadaver ligament placed in you? They are putting cadaver meniscus in me. Is there anything "strange" about it that you have noticed? (Other than having a dead person's parts in you.)

Best of luck in your recovery,

oohah

I personally would never put a cadavers anything inside my body. I think it's just bad vibes. They say it's better as far as recovery time because there would be no graphing involved but I just don't want to be haunted knowing i have a piece of someone else that died.

I had a graph done and sometimes I wonder if they even repaired the ACL. I still have that annoying crunching feeling and it's still wobbly. There's no hyper extending or anything I'm just ranting. This is a very frustration process.....it wouldn't be as bad if basketball was my job and I had a guaranteed NBA contract.

*sigh*

oohah: I am so disappointed in you. Where is the line by line 1/2 page long reply?

geeze.. that blows. I guess the fact that I only played turf sports made a big difference. I had a couple sold knee sprains playing football in my mid 20s. When I was 23 I got hit by a soccer mom in a minivan on my motorcycle hyperextended the same knee and separated the shoulder. The shoulder injury helped up a quick end to the days of full contact football on sundays. If you have ever known how it feels to have a shoulder dislocated you know where I am at. If you have ever had it happen 3 times you REALLY know where I am at.
Make a long story short about 8 years of baseball, football, skiiing, motorcross and crashing the crotch rocket eventually took its toll. I was playing a co-ed pick up game of slow pitch softball and chasing a ball in the outfield the thing just gave out. Snap. Full tear of the ACL, partial tear of the MCL (one your getting replaced) and a tear of the miniscus. The ACL was replaced with a patella tendon graph. It took about 18 months but I'm back to playing center field. Lateral stability is a concern and I've avoided any hoops or pigskin for this reason.

Good luck... its been 6 years since the surgury for me. I can run, and fast. First step is a bit slow but I'm pretty much the fasted guy I know still at 33.

You know how hard it is to not want to play. I haven't played in any games but I have been shooting around and going through my routine. I know I shouldn't be doing it but it's tough. I haven't been trying to drive or jump too high, but I have been working on my post moves.

I think I will take your advice and shut it down till at least Christmas. That sucks man. I gotta rep Brooklyn!!!!

I personally would never put a cadavers anything inside my body. I think it's just bad vibes.

I still have that annoying crunching feeling and it's still wobbly.

Okay, I say 12 and 10. You said 18 and 10, right? So how would this work? I'm not concerned about the boards, it was the points I was really reacting to. If he scores 18 or more a game, I'd say you definitely win, regardless of the boards. If he scores 12 or less, I would think I'd win, again regardless of boards, right? And then if he ends up scoring more than 12 but less than 18 no one wins?

I dont know what the #s will be but I think some will be literally shocked at how good a player KT is when he's got some talent around him, especially talent up front. Look how good Duncan made Nazr look. Amare will have KT looking like an all star, and I'm pretty sure Suns fans will be saying Qwho pretty quickly. The x factor in that trade is Nate. If he's a stud we got a steal. If he's Dujaun Wagner its a wash

Posted by oohah:

Okay, I say 12 and 10. You said 18 and 10, right? So how would this work? I'm not concerned about the boards, it was the points I was really reacting to. If he scores 18 or more a game, I'd say you definitely win, regardless of the boards. If he scores 12 or less, I would think I'd win, again regardless of boards, right? And then if he ends up scoring more than 12 but less than 18 no one wins?

I think we should base it on whomever is closest. If he averages under 15, you win, 15 or over, I do.

Easy money for me. Need I remind you KT led the country in scoring and rebounding as a senior? And his pro stats suggest that it might not be so impossible:

Kurt Thomas:

CAREER AVERAGES
REBOUNDS PER GAME
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
95-96 MIA 74 42 22.4 .501 .000 .663 1.6 4.3 5.9 .6 .64 .49 1.32 3.70 9.0
96-97 MIA 18 9 20.8 .371 .000 .761 1.7 4.2 5.9 .5 .67 .50 1.39 3.70 6.3
96-97 -- 18 9 20.8 .371 .000 .761 1.7 4.2 5.9 .5 .67 .50 1.39 3.70 6.3
97-98 DAL 5 0 14.6 .378 .000 1.000 1.6 3.2 4.8 .6 .20 .00 2.00 3.80 7.4
98-99 NYK 50 44 23.6 .462 .000 .611 1.6 4.1 5.7 1.1 .90 .34 1.46 3.20 8.1
99-00 NYK 80 21 24.6 .505 .333 .781 1.8 4.5 6.3 1.0 .64 .53 1.31 3.50 8.0
00-01 NYK 77 29 27.6 .511 .333 .814 2.2 4.5 6.7 .8 .79 .90 1.29 3.70 10.4
01-02 NYK 82 82 33.8 .494 .167 .815 2.6 6.5 9.1 1.1 .87 .96 1.87 4.20 13.9
02-03 NYK 81 81 31.8 .483 .667 .750 2.0 5.9 7.9 2.0 1.00 1.20 1.70 4.20 14.0
03-04 NYK 80 75 31.9 .473 .000 .835 1.8 6.5 8.3 1.9 .70 1.00 1.65 3.70 11.1
04-05 NYK 80 80 35.7 .471 .500 .786 2.1 8.3 10.4 2.0 .88 .99 1.24 3.90 11.5
Career 627 463 28.9 .484 .269 .764 2.0 5.6 7.6 1.3 .79 .80 1.49 3.80 10.8
Playoff 48 24 22.0 .442 .000 .725 1.8 4.0 5.8 .6 .60 .56 1.19 3.70 6.5


And that was with low-scoring Knick teams!

okay it's a bet at 15.

i like porterhouse.

and i promise i'll only order modestly-priced red wines.

Posted by Panos:

Posted by fishmike:

right in midtown. I'm in the HSBC building at Bryant Park 40th and 5th, right next to the NY public library.

Its not childish at all! Just good fun. Plus if I lose Bonn and RV can say I'm a hater AND I'm slow.

Martin should be in charge of informing Letterman. Somehow there is major comedy in this. Especially considering we will probably be running a 50yd dash between avenues in mid-day between the lights changing :)

Should be a classic. How about a one dollar wager?

Yo, you're on. Just for kicks. I'll prob get my *** smoked, but what the hell.
It's funny!

not if we raced today... I can barely walk up the dmn stairs. Its ok.. I will have to RISE ABOVE!

Know a good place in the area? Marv? Please dont tell me running down 5th ave between light changes is the best we have to work with... I will do it but geeze.