Posted by fishmike:

Lenny should have told them not to miss

Larry will teach them to shoot the right way.

Posted by fishmike:

dido... some guys look to pass first, others look to shoot first. Which do you think ours look to do?

Considering that Marbury's always top 3 in assists, the answer is pretty obvious; Marbury looks to pass unless he's not confident that the recipient will score.


[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-24-2005 1:13 PM]

great analysis... he also takes 16 shots a game and for someone that has the ball in his hands for 42 minutes a game 8 assists isnt exactly earth shattering. So far MArbury is a pass first point guard and Sweetney doesnt have post moves. Have you ever watched these guys play? Not a good day for Bonn

It's like I said though in the first place. If Sweetney and Frye and yes, James can't stay on the court, we are screwed. Sweetney is a good low post scorer, but he was also foul prone last year. If he remains that way along with Frye and James, we're screwed.

Posted by fishmike:

great analysis... he also takes 16 shots a game and for someone that has the ball in his hands for 42 minutes a game 8 assists isnt exactly earth shattering. So far MArbury is a pass first point guard and Sweetney doesnt have post moves. Have you ever watched these guys play? Not a good day for Bonn

Marbury's basically a team score first PG which means he looks to pass first if a teammate is in a good position to score and score first if he thinks he's in a better position too. That's why he always is a league leader in both scoring and assists. If you ever watched a game, you'd understand this. (See I can do the lame insults too!)

Not a good day for Bonn

Great day for me; I got a lot of work done and out-debated one or two confused Knicks fans. (I'm starting to learn from you how to do the lame insults; relax, Sim, it's just good-natured fun.)



[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-24-2005 2:34 PM]

what are you talking about? Sweetney was a low post beast in college.

When did I say he wasn't in college? You're just changing the subject.

I think he was on IR all year until Isiah came as a matter of fact, which means he didnt play under Chaney much at all.

I think he played in about 50% of the games that season. You're right that he's gotten more comfortable as he's older; that's obvious and expected.

think something like 12/7 and > 50% in 28-32 minutes is a resonable expection at this point, with the majority of those points coming in the post.

That's a reasonable expectation. You're not disagreeing with me here either.

I'll say it one more time: Sweetney does have a nice low post game, BUTjust as long as a guard creates the shot for him or he grabs the rebound right under the basket. A guard on the perimeter can't on a consistent basis hand him the ball in the post, get out his way, and tell him to create everything for himself like teams do with Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand, Zach Randolph, Eddy Curry, etc. That's all I was saying. Maybe Sweetney will become that type of consistent low-post scorer, but he hasn't shown it yet. Whether he had that ability last year and just wasn't given the chance by every guard he played with and both coaches he played under OR showed in practices that he couldn't yet do that on a consistent basis is just speculation that none of us has the answers to.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-24-2005 2:33 PM]

It is up to the coaching staff to have the right guys in the game....the lineup that we started the season with when Lenny was the coach was simply horrible. Sweetney proved that he can be depandable if he is given the minutes. I don't know if you all know this, but Sweetney was the only Knicks that shot 50%+.

LMAO... now thats funny. Forgot those guys, probably because they only use Bonn as the primary screen name.

Posted by fishmike:

glad you made it big, because before you said his post game was bad, that he just finished nice passes from Marbury. incidentally all those guys you mentioned took 2-3 years to develop a post game at the NBA level, with the exception of Brand who was a #1 pick. I'm done with your part. Agree or disagree I dont care.

DJ, it was a bloody travesty, because Sweetney would hustle down the floor, get great position in the paint and have to come out after 3 secs because the guards woudlnt get him the ball. So lame. Eventually he just stopped doing that.

its was very frustrating watching him hustle down the floor only to watch the guards and Kurt Thomas chuck jumpers. We have to take advantage of the 25mins Sweetney will be on the court and full strength and not gasping for air and in foul trouble. Because there's no doubt in my mind Sweetney is our best post scorer