Allright now, it seems the opinions are kinda a little to polar on this topic cause its the hated Nets.

Jackson is a poor mans version of Mo Taylor. His only asset is his postup game, but it is not nearly as good as Taylor's, he is easily handled by a compitent post defender. Don't you guys remember how easily we handled him with KT guarding him? He put up bad shot after bad shot until he was taken out of his misery.

The guy has made a career of posting up week interrior defenders, using his superior strengh and nice touch around the basket. He however has no explosivness at all to finish strong against good defense, and his rebounding and defense are nonexistant.

Think of Corliss Williamson alos, a similar deal you get with Jackson. An offensive spark with the right matchups, nothing more.

His stats were infalated last year as well because for some reason O'Brien fell in love with him and played him too much, takin way to many minutes from Dealambert.

If I'm not mistaken Jackson was a 2nd round pick by the Warriors, and had very nic couple of years there outworking Foyle and Dampier, but after he got his money, he never worked nearly as hard as in his first 2 years in Golden State when he had no guaranteed money as a 2nd round pick.

This is the type of player a team in contention gets if it has the luxury to pay for his contact, and use him striclty based on matchups, when sometimes he wount get more then 5 mints a game unless you want him to hurt you.

Jackson is the last thign we need, he would be so redundant with Taylor, and Sweetney on the team, both with better postup games. Brown would never play him either, because he has simply refused to put forth any kind of effort on the defense the last few years.

The Nets are desperate for some kind of deapth, and even though I don't think they will be truly contending w/out SAR next year, picking Jackson made sense for them, not for us.

As for the price, Philly probalby wanted to dump his deal and are plannin to play Delambert 40 mints a night after giving him that huge contract. They did spend a lot of money this offseason, and they had to cut their losses somewhere, and a limited role player is a good place to do that.

James at least meets some kinnd of need for us, albeit on paper so far, but Jackson would have just been a total headscrachter. Kinda like gettin Taylor, can somebody tell me what was the point of that? I for once am very happy we did not get this guy just becase we could, to "upgrade" our talent as some seem to suggest the Taylor trade was for. You do moves because they make sense, not becasue you can.

amazing how much attention this nets deal is getting.

Its no big deal for anyone. Nets took on a stop gap player whom really won't get much touches, but will get lots of free looks cuz his man will leave to double everyone eles.

Kristic is a better center than anyone on the knicks.

I would not be worrying about the Jersey nets.

Posted by crzymdups:

fellas, Marc Jackson is a decent backup. Let's not overreact. This guy averaged less rebounds per 48 than Jerome James, less blocks per 48 minutes than JJ had in 15 minutes a night, he's 3 inches shorter, a year older... I mean what's the problem again? I'd much rather put David Lee, Channing Frye, Jerome James, Malik Rose, Michael Sweetney out there. Sorry, this is ridiculous.

Mark can score - but that's IT. And he doesn't score all that well either.

The Mark Jackson deal is important. The reason we beat this stuff is because its all we have to measure what our own team is doing. Mark Jackson and JJ are comparable players. MJ I would say is actually more valueable because he's shown he can stay on the floor and be productive. JJ has never shown that. JJ has more size, and thats certainly important but his inability to stay on the floor and use it really hurts him. So the next thing you look at is what we paid. They paid $9mm we paid $30mm. Sorry, but we got ripped. If MJ doesnt work out they can move him pretty easily. If JJ doesnt work out we are looking at taking back an equally bad deal that some other team doesnt want. I had hoped we got away from this but apparently not. It also kills and notion that we would put ourselved in a great cap situation in 2 year like the Lakers are doing. Oh well... none of this matters I guess because we got LArry brown.

so whats a better deal? Giving up the Spurs #1 and getting a reasonably priced MJ and still having the MLE to spend, OR blowing our wad on JJ?

I would have preffered to remain flexible.

Also, who would we be spending the MLE, that we still have to spend?

And it had better be a center.

Posted by fishmike:

so whats a better deal? Giving up the Spurs #1 and getting a reasonably priced MJ and still having the MLE to spend, OR blowing our wad on JJ?

I would have preffered to remain flexible.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08/10/2005 10:41:47]

Posted by fishmike:

so whats a better deal? Giving up the Spurs #1 and getting a reasonably priced MJ and still having the MLE to spend, OR blowing our wad on JJ?

I would have preffered to remain flexible.

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I get the jest of what your saying. IF your going for a flawed player, best not to over pay. If your stacked with picks, and you hiding players in Europe, 2nd rounders are expendible. ANd the jest if filling a need, not JJ vs Jackson. Marc Jackson should never be considered so long as our roster is what it is.

Also, the knicks don't have the flexibility that the nets do. We will over pay until we are back in reality.

This is a good reason to say under the cap.

The Nets getting Marc Jackson is comparable to putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. Aside from adding some scoring, how does he help their frontcourt?

I'd take JJ and his "bloated" deal any day. So damn what we overpaid. Crying about it won't magically undo it. Maybe that same energy spent whining could be better spent simply waiting to see if Big Game James will step up the the challenge this season (especially under Larry).

Posted by rvhoss:

what he said!

Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Maybe that same energy spent whining could be better spent simply waiting to see if Big Game James will step up the the challenge this season (especially under Larry).

why do I have to sit and pretend a bad move isnt bad? I hope JJ is awesome and does things he's never done before over the course of the year. Whats more likely is you get what you get. 50 games of a big body that sometimes comes to play and sometimes doesnt.

So dont spend it. Resign Ariza now and see whats available next year. Thats what a smart team would have done. The one time Isiah has been patient with any decision on this team it yielded Larry Brown. I guess some are slow learners