Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Ok. well thats where will differ. I think Phil would work exactly fine here becuase Tex Winters has gone on the record saying that Stephon and Crawford would be absolutely perefect the Triangle Offense, so would Sweetney and Frye. The triangle has worked both in Chicago and LA why couldn't it work in New York? We'll never know now but I for one am NOT going to shortchange Phil Jackson's coaching job on winning 9 championships.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07/28/2005 17:31:33]

talk is cheap if Phil felt that way then why did he choose the Lakers instead of coming home? The reason is they have Kobe and Odom in place. We have Marbury, crawford, Q. I'm really glad we have Larry Brown instead right now both coaches are terrific, interchangeable as far as who is the best in the game but Larry is a better fit in NY

If players win and coaching doesn't mean as much then Kobe and Odom should have made the playoffs last year... right?

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Ok. well thats where will differ. I think Phil would work exactly fine here becuase Tex Winters has gone on the record saying that Stephon and Crawford would be absolutely perefect the Triangle Offense, so would Sweetney and Frye. The triangle has worked both in Chicago and LA why couldn't it work in New York? We'll never know now but I for one am NOT going to shortchange Phil Jackson's coaching job on winning 9 championships.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07/28/2005 17:31:33]

talk is cheap if Phil felt that way then why did he choose the Lakers instead of coming home? The reason is they have Kobe and Odom in place. We have Marbury, crawford, Q. I'm really glad we have Larry Brown instead right now both coaches are terrific, interchangeable as far as who is the best in the game but Larry is a better fit in NY

If players win and coaching doesn't mean as much then Kobe and Odom should have made the playoffs last year... right?

not without Shaq. We will find out this year if they can at least make the 8th seed with Phil. Phil is a great coach so I don't doubt it especially if Kwame and Bynum pan out. but just making the playoffs and winning it all is too completely different things NO coach can win it all without the players in place.

Phil is in a much better situation with Kobe and Odom than he would've been in in NY with Marbury, craw and Q. He already has the championship calibur player in place in Kobe. He just needs one of the bigmen to pan out. Larry has a much longer way to go to win a championship in NY. both guys can make the playoffs but Phil could be in better shapre to win it all if one of the bigs pan out.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:


just making the playoffs and winning it all is too completely different things

You've made my point for me. Larry makes the playoffs every year and has won once. Phil has 9 championships. Phil makes the playoffs and he wins the championship. Plain and simple.

no its not that plain and simple! not when guys named Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe are in the picture! Larry would win championships too had he had those guys his ENTIRE career!

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:


just making the playoffs and winning it all is too completely different things

You've made my point for me. Larry makes the playoffs every year and has won once. Phil has 9 championships. Phil makes the playoffs and he wins the championship. Plain and simple.

no its not that plain and simple! not when guys named Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe are in the picture! Larry would win championships too had he had those guys his ENTIRE career!

see, warped

how?

a good coach will will you to a 16 team playoff but without the players winning it all isn't realistic and Larry Brown didn't need jordan, pippen, rodman, shaq & kobe too win it all. That makes him one of the best coaches in history in my book. Nothing warped about it! like I said him and Phil are interchangeable at 1 & 2 in today's coaching ranks

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by rojasmas:

For everyone who thinks Larry Brown would win with the best team, how did he do in the Olympics? Furthermore, if you want to say that, Rick Carlisle could have won with the Piston team Brown won with. After all, he had two 50 win seasons with that same team which didn't feature Rasheed until Larry came aboard.

carisle is well underway to reaching jackson/brown level in my book. anyone who wills that indy team to the playoffs deserves to be highly regarded

But he has Jermaine O'Neal, Reggie Miller and Ron Artest. The players do everything for him, he doesnt coach at all.

Posted by rojasmas:

For everyone who thinks Larry Brown would win with the best team, how did he do in the Olympics?

I don't remember any basketball experts faulting Larry Brown for the team's performance in the Olympics...if it was as simple as hiring a new Olympic coach why has there been a complete overhaul in the way the Olympic team will operate and be assembled?

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by rojasmas:

For everyone who thinks Larry Brown would win with the best team, how did he do in the Olympics? Furthermore, if you want to say that, Rick Carlisle could have won with the Piston team Brown won with. After all, he had two 50 win seasons with that same team which didn't feature Rasheed until Larry came aboard.

carisle is well underway to reaching jackson/brown level in my book. anyone who wills that indy team to the playoffs deserves to be highly regarded

But he has Jermaine O'Neal, Reggie Miller and Ron Artest. The players do everything for him, he doesnt coach at all.

no he didnt have those guys they were either injured or suspended the entire season. Had they had them with a great coach like Rick coaching they would've made some serious noise in the playoffs

Posted by rojasmas:

I don't know. He is a notch below Jackson and Riley if he were coaching in my book. He had a real good team this year and was fortunate to win the Conference championship. If Wade doesn't get hurt, they lose that series. Furthermore, he only made it to the Finals a few times (Sixers, Pistons twice). Look at the resumes of the other two guys. Chuck Daly if he were coaching also dwarfs Larry's achievements. Larry gets a little too much credit in my book. What makes him better than even a Rudy T? Larry won his championship with a damn good team. History will show this. Don't be surprised if Flip Saunders wins one in Detroit now.

the point is Larry and Phil are 2 of the best coaches today. wanna throw Carlisle in there since its only a matter of time before he wins a championship go ahead. Chuck Daly is a heck of a coach too...right up there with those guys. Rudy T never did anything without Hakeem soI wouldn't put him in there with those guys. Again the bottomline and the reason this poll is winning 23-5 is because Knicks fans realize that as good a coach Jackson is he would've never coached this current Knicks team unless changes where made and a cornerstone like a Kobe was brought in otherwise he wouldn't risk his legacy. I command Larry for taking on the challenge. I know he will get the most out of this marginally talented team. Its up to the entire organization to take it a step further and build a championship calibur team.

This may have been already mentioned but the contract Larry got of 4 years and 8 mill is a very good one for us compared to the 5 years 10-12 mill rumored. People can't be mad at that...

I think people will see the importance of Larry Brown when the Pistons with Saunders don't even make it to the eastern conference finals over Miami and Indiana because Larry won't be there to get all those guys to play together and win. Just because Carlisle may be just as good and problably could have won too had he had Rasheed it doesn't diminish Larry's legacy as a great alltime coach. I'll take Carlisle over Saunder anyday. We'll see if Detroit beats miami and indiana this year without Larry!