Islefan, you are loosing it man. Who said you changed your opiniuon betwen draft day and the day after?? What on the face of God's green earth are you even talking about? lol Make what up? I didn't write what I pasted. You did!

The fact is when I brought up the fact that you mentioned the problem with drafting Nate was his height YOU SAID I MADE THAT UP AND YOU NEVER SAID IT. Understand now man? You denied every saying that. You said that your beef was with playing time. See the difference? Please say yes and we can move on.

Who cares if Nate will be a spark plus or not? At pick 21 it's great to be able to snatch someone up who can come in a game and be a sparkplug. Players like this change the game as soon as they are inserted. You have GOT to know this by now. Earl Bpykins is extremely important to his team. And everyone knows that Nate has the potential to be an even more valuable 'sparkplug' if you will. Being a bust and being a sparkplug are totally different. You talk about his height like his height alone would make him a bust. Then you say "how many 5'8 superstars are there'? WAKE UP! Pay attention! No one said Nate is a superstar lol. Get a grip. R.I.F.

Ok, you've lost it. You are using the fact that Isiah requested that 'players earn their time' to say they they were his puppets? LOL Stromile Swift will be starting for the Houston Rockets and that has nothing to do with Jeff VanGundy. It has to do with Stro and his agent speaking to GM's (e.i. Isiah) and seeing what role he could play on the team. Stro is told by the GM if he comes to the Rockets he can start. This is a perv for Stro b/c he'd rather start than come off the bench. This is decided without a person like VanGundy. Is Jeff a puppet? If he worked for Iisha I bet you'd say yes. THE GM IS BOSS! Case closed. In that case you are your bosses puppet in your field.

Just like you said, arguments about old coaches are null and void now that Larry is possibly coming. With that said, here you come saying that the downfall of Larry Brown and Isiah will not puppetry, but this time your excuse for a downfall will be money. Get it? You're proving my point when you say that old stuff is null and void and in the next breath are picking apart why A WHOLE NEW SITUATION probably won't work. You have used two entirely different situations (one that has yet to even happen) as a means to be anti Isiah. For God's sake Brown hasn't even gotten into the organization and already he and Isiah are having money issues? lol

wow!

Posted by tapseer:

It's people like the guy above that dominate this board. I think it's a coalition. I'm glad that more and more people are beginning to realize the team is not as bad as some people make them out to be, and are standing up and saying so. This team will be competitive, they will play D, and they will know how to close out games. I'm QUITE FINE with the JJ signing. He has the size we have needed in the middle for a long time. His hands are at least better than Nazr's, and he should benefit from Marbury's game. I'm estatic with the Q-Rich trade. Q-Rich and a draft pick for KT. I'm going to bitch about that? Hell naw!!! I also like Frye and Lee, our other draft picks. Both have legitimate offensive skills, they just need NBA experience before they reach their full potential. They all will contribute something this fall. I'm not saying this team will be 'All World', but I'm optimistic. As far as being under the cap, who cares about the cap??? This team hasn't worried about the cap in decades and IT gets here, this team is supposed to be under the cap yesterday? Phonies and hypocrits dominate this board. I like that some posters here aren't afraid to point them out.

Great post, Tap. I agree with 100% of it.

I honestly don't have a clue what you just posted. Your jumbled logical reasoning astounds me. But let me try to make some sense of it.

I never said anything about changing opinion. Just addressing your accusation that I "shift" my arguments.

It's funny. lIke, first you diss dude for taking the shortest player in the draft and then Nate does his thing and all of a sudden the argement shifts to Nate's playing time.

You did understand how I completely proved this false, right? My argument about his PT was mentioned the day after the draft and not after "Nate did his thing" in SL. I didn't "all of a sudden" shift my argument like you accused me of doing. Please apologize and we can move on.

I also never said that the problem with drafting Nate was just his height. I said they took a gamble by drafting the shortest player in the draft, because the one thing they desperately needed to address was size. I would have said the same thing about any PG taken with that pick. He just happened to be the shortest player in the draft. Later on I addressed the problems with his game and height happened to be one of those things. In addition to his not being a very good shooter, not being a pure PG, being more of a SG than a PG and his liabilities in halfcourt defense because of his height.

Who ever said that being a bust is the same as being a sparkplug? I sure know that it wasn't me. In fact I never used the word bust when discussing Nate. In fact I've been preaching that these guys need to prove themselves before we declare them to be busts or solid NBA players if not more like some people here are making him out to be. That of course has nothing to do with a players role which is what I was talking about.

Of course Van Gundy has a say about Swift's role. He's obviously being signed to be the starting PF but if Van Gundy is unhappy with him for any reason you can bet that he'll be sitting on the bench. That has everything to do with the head coach who sets roles and hands out playing time. Well maybe not Isiah's head coaches since he admits to dictating playing time for young players even in the last month of a season.

What were you talking about with the different coaching situations? In the past Isiah has dictated playing time instead of the head coach deciding and has even taken an active role in practice. With LB it will be a totally different situation because of LB's stature in the game. Isiah won't be able to tell LB how to coach the team. Is that really difficult to understand?

When you reply, please try to be a little clearer. Thanks in advance.

If IT gets Larry Brown than my hat is of to him, plain and simple.

I will even forgive him the Mo Taylor trade lol.

Islefan, there is a reason no one really agrees with you...pretty much ever. I have had disagreements with certain people and when u come around we both are totally looking at you like 'what is this guy smoking?'. I started to type a whole come back to what you were saying but you speak a different language than me. To you I'm speaking Greek. To me you're speaking baby talk.

You may possibly be the most misunderstood poster here if you actually make sense. Let's pretend that what you're saying DOES make sense. Or EVER HAS made sense. This would probably make the average Joe on this site just that...average. In this case you would be an Einstein. Way ahead of your years. This is the only reason I can think of that no one really ever gets the pleasure of agreeing with you. It's possible that we are not as enlightened as you. That's a possibilty as well. Think about it.

Posted by islesfan:

What??? Seriously dude, read your last paragraph again and tell me that you think that makes any sense at all. I had to read the first sentence 5 times and I still don't know what it means.

Case closed.

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Islefan, there is a reason no one really agrees with you...pretty much ever. I have had disagreements with certain people and when u come around we both are totally looking at you like 'what is this guy smoking?'. I started to type a whole come back to what you were saying but you speak a different language than me. To you I'm speaking Greek. To me you're speaking baby talk.

You may possibly be the most misunderstood poster here if you actually make sense. Let's pretend that what you're saying DOES make sense. Or EVER HAS made sense. This would probably make the average Joe on this site just that...average. In this case you would be an Einstein. Way ahead of your years. This is the only reason I can think of that no one really ever gets the pleasure of agreeing with you. It's possible that we are not as enlightened as you. That's a possibilty as well. Think about it.

Wow! This forum's gotten a lot more entertaining now that isles is posting frequently again!

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Posted by islesfan:

What??? Seriously dude, read your last paragraph again and tell me that you think that makes any sense at all. I had to read the first sentence 5 times and I still don't know what it means.

Case closed.

Well....let me be of service. Let me do my good deed for the day for Mr. Islesfan.

1st sentence:

"Islesfan" (that's you)....

"There is a reason that no one really agrees with you". (there - is - a - reason - that - no - one - really - agrees - with -you) Maybe if you take a break in between words you'll comprehend there meanings serperatly and then all together as one sentence. I don't know any other way to explain this sentence for you.

Lastly....and here's the big one:

"....pretty much ever" (I know I took a big risk with this one. I'm assuming this is where you got lost. I used the phrase "pretty much ever". "Ever" being the important word here needed a little spice to it. Something that brings it out. "Pretty much" does the trick. To simplify this I suppoe i Caould have said "No one EVER agrees with you". Changing the placement of a word helps the reader sometimes.

And together now:

"Islesfan, there is a reason that no one really agrees with you....pretty much ever."

Umm, I said I didn't understand the LAST paragraph, not the first. Since there were only 2, I figured you might be able to figure out which one I meant by "last". Guess not.

It would be great if you could explain the first sentence in the SECOND (Better?) paragraph the way you did the first. Thanks buddy, I really appreciate it.

Sure no problem Islesfan. Teaching is fun lol

Ok here we go for Mr. Islesfan:

I can see where you got flustered:

"You" (this means Islesfan)

"may (possibly) be the most misunderstood poster here....."(now here is where I'm assuming you got lost and/or flustered. I could have said "you may be the most misunderstood...". At this point "possibly" was inserted to give YOU the benifit of the doubt. I took the liberty of excluding the brackets assuming the reader just understood. But I shouldn't have assumed this...you're absoluetly right. There are always people like you who are reading. So, just for you, I'll include the brackets for you)

"......if you actually make sense" (Again, the liberty was taken to leave out the ".........." assuming the reader would catch on to the intended pause. This phrase is a sarcastic way of setting up the fact that it may be 'us' who don't make sense and you DO. Thus 'IF you actually make sense.'. This indicates that maybe you DO makes sense and we are unaware of it as I go on to explian in sentences following.)


All together now (simplified for Islesfan):

You may (possibly) be the most misunderstood poster here.........and that's IF you actually DO make sense.


That was fun.


I like talking about grammer and/or typos instead of talking about all of your Isiah arguements that have been shot down to hell. Some people just have the ability to deflect the attention off of their faults and on to irrelevant topics (i.e. grammer lol). Let's be honest Islesfan, the issue is not my grammer. The issue is your logic. Trust me, I'm not alone in this. In fact you're reminded of this by someone EVERYTIME you post. It's a fact. But we can dodge that and talk about grammer or typos if you'd like

Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Deconstruction.... Ouuuuch.

Hey, I guess the guy likes grammer. Who knows? lol