I dont understand how people are claiming that Stromile Swift doesnt have a heart and Kwame Brown is soft, but glorifying Steven Hunter!!
I think Steven Hunter is worst than the other 2, because he hasnt shown me he's better and the only reason he will get a big pay check this offseason is because he is an athletic 7 footer.

ARe you serious?????? dude 254 block shots and possibly the same amound of points and rebounds as the other two in less playing time is not worth it???? get your head out of where it is at. the numbers speak for themselves. Hunter is much better hands down..

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I dont understand how people are claiming that Stromile Swift doesnt have a heart and Kwame Brown is soft, but glorifying Steven Hunter!!
I think Steven Hunter is worst than the other 2, because he hasnt shown me he's better and the only reason he will get a big pay check this offseason is because he is an athletic 7 footer.

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Stromile Swift has no heart ?!? Heres some Swift Highlights for the Non-Swift believers

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NIHK3O4AKPJX2E8IX8OS0FIP5

This kid is an animal!!! This is what TT is supposed to be like...I'm a believer...I want both.

I still think swift is worth only $5.1 mill to us (to other teams maybe more, but on the knicks, he's only needed as a second unit floor monster with sweets, crawford, Ariza, JYD and MoT/Rose)

I'm not sure I'd subtract anybody else, maybe MoT or Rose, but I like Mo's Post up game (he's got an equal chance of coming back in shape as sweets does).

Kwame...I'm not so sure I'd give up sweets for him...I've seen sweets get to the line and I've seen him play with passion and improve leaps and bounds.

Plus, he only makes like 2 million a year.

With Rose and JYD equal in effort and tenacity, (and appearantly in salary as well) I'm thinking we could lose one of them for Kwame, but looking at our team, there really isn't anybody they could take that I'd be willing to give up...over the weekend after a binger and some brews I was tempted by the sweets/JYD for Kwame deal (sign and trade netting Kwame 7 - 8 million a year) but I'm not sure if it's worth paying that kind of money to a project.

There have been other young bigs that could be had for the MLE and I think they should be taken into consideration.

Right now, we could go with a starting squad of:
Marbs/Craw/Nate, Q/Craw, TT/Q/Ariza, Sweets/MoT/Rose, Frye/Rose/JYD

Suppose we can make a trade? It would have to give up Rose or MoT and JYD/Sweets? But are we willing to committ $8 Mill?

We still have Butler who is our other project.

Hmmm...I'm not sure...swift I want (based solely off of that collection of clips) for the MLE, but if we get swift, we should be prepared to lose Rose (5.5 mill)/JYD (5.6 mill)/MoT (8.5 mill) for Kwame and start him alongside Frye.

Kwame can bang and frye can fly.

If I'm Washington, I'm taking sweets only and maybe JYD to fill out the salary prepared to pay Kwame (8 - 9 million).

But the Zeke deal of deals would be MoT + First round pick (spurs) for Kwame, keep sweets and play in the eastern conference finals.

Marbs, Q, TT, Frye, Kwame
Nate, Craw, Ariza, Sweets, Rose
heck, I don't know...somebody help me out here.

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

But do you think its possible for both of them to be knicks next year?

Yes, it is possible. (sorry for the multiple posts)

a line up of:
Marbs/Q/TT/Frye/Kwame
Nate/Craw/Ariza/Swift/Lee

Wildcards: JYD, Butler

45 wins? With the right coach.

But Lee and Frye need to be NBA ready NOW.

Plus, we are still in rebuilding mode.

Wilcox comes cheaper and is more realistic, the kid just needs time, put him and Frye out there and your going to get dunked on

Robinson, Ariza, Lee, Wilcox, Frye, play them 10 minutes together press and run, run run......

Then we have something

Posted by Pharzeone:

I agree with what you are saying Dido. But to say that Kwame is soft and to say that we need to go after Hunter. Who btw, got punked and pushed around by Nazr isn't a much better solution. If I have to take either one of them, I would take Kwame because of his low post presence and the "upside" he still has. Personally my choice would be Dalembert but that isn't going to happen unless we take some serious salary back.

Show me the salay, that Dalembert may be worth it!