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JUNKMEIN
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7/4/2005  12:52 PM
Sorry - Double Post

[Edited by - Junkmein on 07/04/2005 13:31:52]
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BRIGGS
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7/4/2005  12:58 PM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Please offer us names of players (more than 20 at the very least) with linkable, verifiable links to back up these figures/statistics you've putting here.


Thats to much work. You can look it up yourself, it's quite clear, very evident. Im not taking my time to put links to stuff that is easily accesible to anyone--go do the homework yourself. It wont take long to understand what I am saying. YR1 for high draft pick players define their careers.
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PhilinLA
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7/4/2005  1:06 PM
Posted by Ira:
Posted by gunsnewing:

I think Channing can give us as much as 16pts, 9rebs, 1.7blocks by year 2 or 3 but it still won't be enough if he's our best frontcourt player. Heck Sweetney can give us that

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/03/2005 16:59:58]

No way Frye gives us those numbers at any point in his career - especially the rebounds and blocks.
what if he does?
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JUNKMEIN
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7/4/2005  1:30 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Please offer us names of players (more than 20 at the very least) with linkable, verifiable links to back up these figures/statistics you've putting here.


Thats to much work. You can look it up yourself, it's quite clear, very evident. Im not taking my time to put links to stuff that is easily accesible to anyone--go do the homework yourself. It wont take long to understand what I am saying. YR1 for high draft pick players define their careers.

No I agree Briggs. Definitely too much work.

It seems reasonable and it smells reasonable but respectfuly, i'll just take what you're saying on face value....and with a single grain of salt

Now that's not too much work at all and not worth our time...especially on a beautiful 4th of July like today

Enjoy your 4th Briggs and all.
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7/4/2005  5:47 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

here's my take on frye:

if he's a franchise center, there's no way he drops to 8 - no way in hell. he's not even mentioned top 5. that's a RED FLAG to those that think this guy is going to be the man in the middle.

that DOESN'T MEAN he won't be a really solid player there.

is there anything wrong with drafting a solid player at #8 - nope.
is there anything wrong for going after a high risk/high reward player at #8 - nope.


draft frye - don't draft frye - there are valid arguments on both sides.

all i can do is go by isiah's apparent skill of evaluating players for the draft.

maybe isiah's envisions a system of smart, solid players that play hard and not mentally inept and that's what he saw in frye, nate, and lee AND didn't see in bynum, granger, taft.

frye's ours now and there's no point in crying over spilled milk, unless it's mo taylor.

thank you for actually making sense as opposed to the usual Green, Bynum, Granger, Graham are high schoolers and will take years to be good if ever. I seriously do not know what some people expect out of an 8th pick. You take the best player available. If you want the clear cut best player in the draft than don't win meaningless games by playing Marbury 50mins on bad knees!
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7/4/2005  5:52 PM
Posted by OldFan:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by gunsnewing:

I think Channing can give us as much as 16pts, 10rebs, 1.7blocks by year 2 or 3 but it still won't be enough if he's our best frontcourt player. Heck Sweetney can give us that

Without looking it up, I'm thinking that those numbers would make him one of the elite centers in the game with only Shaq and Duncan matching those stats. Am I right?

Marv even the 16 9 and 1.7 would make him an unusually well-rounded player - only four players meet all of those:

Duncan
Shaq
Brand
Okafor

Not bad company.

I'd still take a PF who would give me 23,11 & 1.7! over a Center who only puts up numbers against weak frontlines and get dominated in the playoffs
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