this is overpaying for someone just because he is tall.

Yes Kwame is young and yes a change of scenery might help and yes he was the #1 pick in the draft.

But being a #1 pick doesn't make you a good player and a change of scenery might not help and Kwame might not be good.

I'd offer Mo Taylor and a number one pick.

Look, with Kwame you're buying a lottery ticket, not a plane ticket or movie ticket.

You might scratch the thing off and see 'Try Again'.

I'd rather loose out on Kwame than overpay.

We've overpaid enough

Haven't we learned!?!?!?

His Weatherspoon all over again, but instead of his best days being behind him, we're not sure if Kwame will ever have better days ahead.

If you can get him cheap, fine- otherwise, pass.

This speculation about who will do what over the next few years falls just short of my 8-year old snitching on my 5-year old about kicking the 4-year old (all girls mind you). Drama, drama, drama.

If we can carry on with all of this hot air speculation about what a 23-year old so-called bust "Kwame" (ridculously premature) will average next year with us (due to work with Aquirre) then why not the same leeway with Sweetney (same coach)?

If Stromile is supposedly not too bright but he can be the missing link in NY (bs from mostly a bunch of paper pushers with two ton guts) ; if Bynum is a Fat immature knucklehead/future bust that likes hanging around on the web but he's gonna become a 275 pound Godzilla (by year two mind you) that will make Shaq a footnote and get Isiah run out of town for overlooking him (and yes that's how silly the speculation has become because...deal with it...he's a Laker now). And on the flip side, Frye is as soft as a marshmellow and he'll be at best a good player but not a true center all because he was selected at eight and did I mention he's just to damn soft. And after all of that for some reason we can't project Sweetney's progress in any kind of level headed way either. Go figure.

All that hot air I mentioned above ain't nothing but a big fart.

It all goes back to us not being satisfied when something constructive is going on right in front of our eyes. We probably won't get a championship but a change for the better is obviously rearing it's head. This process hasn't been perfect and even if it was we'd still find something to bitch about (refer back to my little girls at the top).

If the player ain't here then they're the next big thing (pre-Marbury). However, if the player is here something's gotta be wrong with him (post-Marbury)....Marbury's not fast enough to keep up with these players....BOULSHEET. Kurt bad luck- ABSURD (what did the guy do, brake his rabbits foot necklace while getting a rebound or something

Imo based on Isiah's track record in evaluating talent it will be unlikely that Kwame will come because Isiah won't give up Sweetney for him. He'll give up Rose or MO T, he'll give up Tiny Tim and Pouting Penny's contracts. Hell, he might even give up JYD in a moment of weakness...but he won't give up Sweetney. If Sweetney doesn't make it happen by mid year okay then i'm open to it. But not now, not yet. If he does it now i'm out.

Imo based on Isiah's track record in the draft I expect that Frye will work out fine and so will the other picks. This is a multiphase process and we've barely reached the halfway point....no championship guaranteed although that's the goal.

Finally, I project that Sweetney will be at or very close to an Allstar level this year. Sweetney has only been in the league 2 years. There's nothing solid to pull from that shows he'll have a weight issue for the rest of his career despite his weight issues of last year. The dude has been working out like an animal and he doesn't want to have that interrupted. That imo is why he declined the summer league invite and why Isiah announced he had no problem with it.

Sweetney will be a 255 pound menace down low next year.......Print that.

Oh btw, the signature still stands

JUNKMEIN - Very nice post!

Have a nice day with the girls.

yea- why not just have TT start at center- we'll get the same level of inspired play.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by matt:

So why exactly should we trade for Kwame, if Sweetney did all that? Has Kwame ever scored 20 points?

I think the real question is has Sweetney ever put up 25 and 12 or 30 and 19, because Kwame has.

thank you. the hipocracy is comical!

Over 40mpg, Kwame's career stats (3 seasons worth) are 13.5ppg/9.7rpg.
Sweetney's career stats (2 seasons worth) stretched to 40 mpg are 16+ppg/11+ppg.

You can't just STRETCH a player's numbers like that. Especially a player like Sweetney that is overweight and will get tired faster. And big men never play 40 minutes a game, Marbs can play 36-38 minutes a game. Big men that log big minutes might do 32 minutes, of course there are a few exceptions like Amare Stoudemire (36 minutes).

So why exactly should we trade for Kwame, if Sweetney did all that? Has Kwame ever scored 20 points?

Here are Kwame career numbers...

Points: 30
Filed goals attempted: 16
Free throws attemoted: 12
Total rebounds: 19
Blocks: 6
Minutes played: 48

He scored 30 points and grabbed 19 rebounds in the game he logged in 48 minutes.

I see Sweetney as a 11 point 7 rebound guy over 28 minutes at best.

Sweetney should never be seen as an untouchable. I think Kwame can be special, his situation is different from other busts.

yES they were....and I blame it all on Kurt Thomas...

as bad as the Knicks. You have to wonder why he couldn't earn minutes. Were all three coaches he played under and the GM blind to his ability?

The bottom line is, Sweetney does not fit our team. We need someone that is a shotblocker and can run the open floor at the 4 or 5 position. Everyone loves Sweetney, but fails to realize that he is a liability on the defensive end. I think Kwame is worth the risk.

[Edited by - BigC on 07/04/2005 23:40:47]

Posted by diderotn:

Did you read what you just wrote...??? and you Want Kwame??? this dude is not a shotblocker...

Posted by BigC:

The bottom line is Sweetney does not fit our team. We need someone that is shotblocker and can the on the open floor at the 4 or 5 position. Everyone loves Sweetney, but fails to realize that he is a liability on the defensive end. I think Kwame is worth the risk.

Kwame can play one on one d and can block shots. Are you telling me you think Sweetney is a better defender than Kwame? Why don't you address the fact that Sweetney is a liability on the defensive end?

[Edited by - BigC on 07/04/2005 23:48:07]

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Posted by diderotn:

Why is it that New Yorkers are always interested in garbage players???? Kwame can play one on one D and block shots (125 BS in 5423 minutes played) is that good enough for you??? Have you ever watched Kwame played?????

Besides, one of the reason why most didn't like Kurt is because he can't help improve team D, he was more of a one on one defender...why must we settle for Kwame who is less of the player that Kurt was and can't shoot the ball as well as Kurt could??

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I wonder have you seen Kwame play or are you just looking at stats?

Please give me a break. We are comparing Kwame to Sweetney not Kurt and Kwame. You fail to address again that Sweetney defense is not better than Kwame or Sweetney's lack of defense and ability to stay on the floor because of cheap fouls. Kwame is garbage? And I guess you think Sweetney is an Allstar? Kwame has been on the same team since he has been in the NBA. It is time for a change. I feel the Knicks would be good for him.