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tomverve
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7/1/2005  7:48 PM
Good God, I hope we don't give Hunter the full MLE. Adonal Foyle anyone? Kenny Thomas? Hunter's a nice role player and I'd like to have him on the team, but not at that price.
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7/1/2005  7:55 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by PhilinLA:

We should get Hunter done now. And then worry about thre trade for Kwame or whoever. I agree though they are both good athletes to team with Frye. All can really run.

I agree.


The big man pool is already drying up. Randolph Morris was invited to Atlanta's Summer League. He never signed with an agent, so he can still go back to school too. Chris Andersen tore up his old contract which paid him $1.6 million for one year and signed a multi-year deal with New Orleans.

I think we should offer Hunter 4 years, $15 million right now. I don't think Phoenix will match while they're waiting out Joe Johnson. That $15 million is the same exact amount I said to give to Chris Andersen last summer and everyone said it was too much. Well it was for one season, but a year later he just signed a multi-year deal. Big guys go really fast. If we don't make a strong offer to Hunter, someone else will. I hope Zeke realizes that Kwame isn't a defensive pressence at all. Hunter is.


The question is who would you rather have? hunter or Kwame. If we offer hunter that much then we would definately have to sign and trade for Kwame, and I am sure we would have to pay more then to get kwame.... wouldn't it be better to offer kwame the MLE, and see how dedicated the wizz are to keeping him on the cheap...
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7/1/2005  7:57 PM
The Kwame thing has to be a S&T anyway. Washington wants to get SOME value for having the number one overall pick in the draft.

I think Kwame and Hunter complement each other.

And tomverve, I wouldn't give him the full MLE, but 4 yrs $15 million. He's worth it. He'll probably actually get more elsewhere. I just hope he's on Zeke's radar.
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7/1/2005  8:25 PM
I'd take Swift if Hunter can't be gotten.
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7/1/2005  8:38 PM
the good things about hunter

he is 7 ft athletic long arms can block shots, rebound to a degree run the floor and finish and young , energetic can be disruptive with length in a team defense

the bad things

basketball IQ is low, frame is poor, skill set is non exsistent total depedence on others to score zero post up game cant shoot FTs gets pushed around has trouble defending 1-1 lateral quickness is poor bad hands
conclusion
hes a backup worthy of 10-15 minutes
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7/1/2005  8:42 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

the good things about hunter

he is 7 ft athletic long arms can block shots, rebound to a degree run the floor and finish and young , energetic can be disruptive with length in a team defense

the bad things

basketball IQ is low, frame is poor, skill set is non exsistent total depedence on others to score zero post up game cant shoot FTs gets pushed around has trouble defending 1-1 lateral quickness is poor bad hands
conclusion
hes a backup worthy of 10-15 minutes
Who would you prefer with the MLE?
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7/1/2005  9:16 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

the good things about hunter

he is 7 ft athletic long arms can block shots, rebound to a degree run the floor and finish and young , energetic can be disruptive with length in a team defense

the bad things

basketball IQ is low, frame is poor, skill set is non exsistent total depedence on others to score zero post up game cant shoot FTs gets pushed around has trouble defending 1-1 lateral quickness is poor bad hands
conclusion
hes a backup worthy of 10-15 minutes
Who would you prefer with the MLE?


Im not sure I would spen it yet. I think I would work the Kwame Brown angle. If I can get Kwame Brown for Sweet and malik, Id probably look towards Darius Songalia for 3 years 12MM with a 4th year option
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7/1/2005  9:42 PM
From what I saw in the playoffs, he is a much better asset than Kwame...

Posted by BRIGGS:

the good things about hunter

he is 7 ft athletic long arms can block shots, rebound to a degree run the floor and finish and young , energetic can be disruptive with length in a team defense

the bad things

basketball IQ is low, frame is poor, skill set is non exsistent total depedence on others to score zero post up game cant shoot FTs gets pushed around has trouble defending 1-1 lateral quickness is poor bad hands
conclusion
hes a backup worthy of 10-15 minutes
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7/1/2005  9:45 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by PhilinLA:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

the good things about hunter

he is 7 ft athletic long arms can block shots, rebound to a degree run the floor and finish and young , energetic can be disruptive with length in a team defense

the bad things

basketball IQ is low, frame is poor, skill set is non exsistent total depedence on others to score zero post up game cant shoot FTs gets pushed around has trouble defending 1-1 lateral quickness is poor bad hands
conclusion
hes a backup worthy of 10-15 minutes
Who would you prefer with the MLE?


Im not sure I would spen it yet. I think I would work the Kwame Brown angle. If I can get Kwame Brown for Sweet and malik, Id probably look towards Darius Songalia for 3 years 12MM with a 4th year option

I'm talking about getting Hunter AND Kwame. I agree that Hunter is a backup, but from what I've seen, he's more physical than Frye or Kwame.
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7/1/2005  10:15 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by PhilinLA:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

the good things about hunter

he is 7 ft athletic long arms can block shots, rebound to a degree run the floor and finish and young , energetic can be disruptive with length in a team defense

the bad things

basketball IQ is low, frame is poor, skill set is non exsistent total depedence on others to score zero post up game cant shoot FTs gets pushed around has trouble defending 1-1 lateral quickness is poor bad hands
conclusion
hes a backup worthy of 10-15 minutes
Who would you prefer with the MLE?


Im not sure I would spen it yet. I think I would work the Kwame Brown angle. If I can get Kwame Brown for Sweet and malik, Id probably look towards Darius Songalia for 3 years 12MM with a 4th year option

I'm talking about getting Hunter AND Kwame. I agree that Hunter is a backup, but from what I've seen, he's more physical than Frye or Kwame.

Id go with that. I also keep forgetting we have David lee as a PF. But number 1 I would work hard at trying to get Kwame here, anything else can be looked at after. Hunter of course is a real posibility, you just dont want him as your starter, then you have to weigh cost vs. production
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7/1/2005  10:20 PM
I like the idea of getting Kwame. He is a better fit for this team than Sweetney. At Least Kwame can play d,one on one and help d. Kwame and also run the open court, Kwame can postup hit the turn around jumper.

Now this issue of potential. I find it funny that when a player is on another team people want to say, "I don't want to hear about potential." However when it comes to a player on this team we are supposed to hear every potential situation possible. Example look at how many people said Sweetney can be like Barkley? My response is, "What Barkley?' Not the one that is one of the best pf's of all time?""Or he can be the next Brand?" Is that not potential?

People want to bring up the fact that Kwame has not been playing up to where is he is supposed be. Kwame has been on same team since he has been in the NBA. You ever thought that when players don't want to play on certain teams they just don't try? Look at Tmac in Orlando, Vince, Baron Davis last year before he got traded. The truth is, this is the NBA where players play good when they are in a situation sometimes that they are happy with. Kwame will have support here and be around people that want him to succeed. When Jordan was on the Wizards all he did was try to put pressure on Kwame instead of letting the game come to him.

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7/1/2005  11:24 PM
All the bigs that are out there are scrubs, and we will probably over pay for them. And they have limited upside and as much as they excel in one area they lack in the other, so...

Out of everyone I would go for Kwame, he is not your regular bust. He is gonna be SOMEONE and whatever team takes a gamble on him next will reap all the rewards.

We took safe picks in the draft, now it's time to take a risk on Kwame who might not cost us an arm and a leg.

I'd rather have Kwame then Boozer, Swift, and Illgauskas call me crazy.

Kwame and Frye will be similar to Ewing and Camby... HAHA!
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7/1/2005  11:46 PM
I am not so sure about that...To get Kwame, we would at the least have to give them Sweetney and a draft pick...For what I know about Kwame, this kid is not as good as Sweetney...If you don't have a heart or fire, you will never reach all of those potentials...Didn't you get enough of that with TT???


We took safe picks in the draft, now it's time to take a risk on Kwame who might not cost us an arm and a leg.

I'd rather have Kwame then Boozer, Swift, and Illgauskas call me crazy.

Kwame and Frye will be similar to Ewing and Camby... HAHA!
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Posted by diderotn:

I am not so sure about that...To get Kwame, we would at the least have to give them Sweetney and a draft pick...For what I know about Kwame, this kid is not as good as Sweetney...If you don't have a heart or fire, you will never reach all of those potentials...Didn't you get enough of that with TT???


[quote]

We took safe picks in the draft, now it's time to take a risk on Kwame who might not cost us an arm and a leg.

I'd rather have Kwame then Boozer, Swift, and Illgauskas call me crazy.

Kwame and Frye will be similar to Ewing and Camby... HAHA!


didetron i have a good idea ! resign Sundov at 7-2 260 bring in sun ming ming at 7-9 sign steven hunter for 40mm$ and finish it off with bringing back Oakley--then we have the frontcourt all set--physical talent means nothing in this league!
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7/2/2005  1:09 AM
So lets give up Sweetney like that. If Kwame doesn't works out in New York, we would've only lost a good low post scorer that with his body ready could be a great starter for us. While Im not completely against the move (who knows if it somehow works out), I would rather explore other options. We aren't such a great team yet that we can have the luxury of trading a player for a high risk. And the fact that Sweetney does fits this team since he runs the flor well and is one of the few low post scoring options we have, makes me want him here. Now, if the right trade came along, fine. But Kwame is such a big risk, while Sweetney is already a solid player that will have a great season next one (he improved a lot from his first to second season)...
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