Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Nalod:

Just seems like it was only two weeks ago Jim Calhoun was saying he is not ready for the nba, and now he is top 6? Wow!

Briggy gets props for seeing the hype first, but how are the Knicks negligent here?

obvisiouly he's most likely not ready for the nba next year at only 18. He still has to make the transition from playing against High School players to playing against nba bigs. Which means he's going to need to bulk up and he's got the frame to become a psychical specimen, he needs to learn defensive positioning, footwork & conditioning.

bulk up, for what? hes 275 pounds and he is quite muscular and much more athletic than what was purported. How ould KT stop him from a post up, he outweighs him by 40 pounds hes 3-4 inches bigger+growing with a 92 1/2 inch wingspan. This kid is a monster up close, HUGE enomous kid

Come on, Briggs! Later you will tell me that not even Shaq will stop him? I can understand that later when he has developed, he will be that good. But now? KT used to play at C for us and he had to deal with Shaq every time and he did a very nice job on him. Heck, even Rose did a nice job against him for the Spurs. Yet because Bynum is 275 and 7-1, he will dominate established NBA players that know how to play defense?

what im saying he is PLENTy strong right now to play NBA basketball,TODAY not 2-3 years from now. He's a strong huge skilled young guy. It will take some PT flow, but unless he gets hurt, he will be an NBA All star C for a LONg time.

Posted by fishmike:

it always cracks me up when people that know nothing about a player will knock him. No big deal.

About 6 months ago Briggs posted an article about this guy who was being recruited by UConn and said "dont be suprised if this guy is a household name in a couple years"
This wasnt because he thought the Knicks should draft him, this was because this is what Briggs does. He watches games none of us would ever bother with and posts what he sees. Does he get over zelous? Probably but he talks about these guys WAY before their stories are being regurgitated by Chad Ford and the like.

It would suck if Bynum is gone, because I have no doubt if we picked up on him early we could have had him. Hopefully if he is gone it pushes down somone we otherwise wouldnt have had a shot at. God forbid Green *is* the next McGrady and he lands in our laps. Some talent is worth waiting for.

Its not, at least for me, whether Briggs found out about the player first. Briggs is not the only one that likes Bynum so he is definitely worth the risk at 8 given his potential. Sometimes is just the way you put it, Briggs, that makes me mad. Thats your style, so while I may not like it, I'll deal with it. But to say that its all done, that we have no chance at him, etc. etc. when you don't read that anywhere and there are more guys NBA ready than him who could possibly go higher. Maybe you just realized that Portland has practically no need of anyone of the top players and they could take the gamble on Bynum because they don't need him next season. Maybe its another rumor. But thats it, a rumor! This has yet to happen. If it does, what can we do? Nothing so we take the best player avaliable, who will be very good, and move on.

Posted by fishmike:

it always cracks me up when people that know nothing about a player will knock him. No big deal.

About 6 months ago Briggs posted an article about this guy who was being recruited by UConn and said "dont be suprised if this guy is a household name in a couple years"
This wasnt because he thought the Knicks should draft him, this was because this is what Briggs does. He watches games none of us would ever bother with and posts what he sees. Does he get over zelous? Probably but he talks about these guys WAY before their stories are being regurgitated by Chad Ford and the like.

It would suck if Bynum is gone, because I have no doubt if we picked up on him early we could have had him. Hopefully if he is gone it pushes down somone we otherwise wouldnt have had a shot at. God forbid Green *is* the next McGrady and he lands in our laps. Some talent is worth waiting for.

But that's ridiculous to say we could have had him! You can't prevent other teams from knowing about players, and if anything Zeke's pathetic attempt to shield the Frye interest has shown how things work in New York - there are 30 beat writers following this team, all with different sources within the team - SOMETHING would leak.

But to say keep a kid's existance a secret is RIDICULOUS. That's like saying get to Lebron his sophomore year at HS, move him to Sweden, have him workout in a private barn with no windows. It's due diligence, right? BS! There's nothing you can do if a team wants to pick a guy ahead of you! That's why Phoenix was sweating out the Amare pick on draft day, because even with the promise and the cancelling of workouts, there were teams trying to trade up to 8 to get Amare.

COME ON! this is ridiculous. Yes, Briggs gets all the credit in the world for having an eye for a prospect who eventually became a big deal, but to say the Knicks aren't doing their job by keeping a guy a total secret, that's insane. How many times has that ever happened in the history of the draft?

well... thats the drama of Briggs. If you respect his eye for talent (I do, I think he's earned it) then you listen when he gushes about a player.

He's usually not one for an "I told ya so" post but I think people have been riding him enough that he cracked

lol... good discussion either way

Key phrase was "not seen anybody as high on Bynum".

Briggs is flying high, a good buzz be had on this Bynum kid!

Briggy can get a good high this time of year. Mrs Briggy prolly wanna throw his ass out the house.

Briggy not hit the crack pipe, just NBA draft chat rooms. Hell, it ain't porn!

Posted by s3231:

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Posted by s3231:

If Bynum turns out to be as good as advertised by BRIGGS, then BRIGGS has every right to shove it in people's faces. I haven't seen anyone so high on Bynum other than BRIGGS, so he deserves to take credit if Bynum indeed turns into a very good player. With that said, the draft is tomorrow. Lets not crucify anyone until we find out what happens

Even if Bynum gets drafted at 6 tomorrow or at any spot before us, we won't know how good of a player he is or can become until we see him in NBA action. So lets stay patient. We have waited all of this time and we only have one day left.

Are you crazy??? Briggs is the only one on this board who is high on Bynum. There are at least 10 Bynum supporters who post here hour on the hour. Then there are Frye fans too. The only difference is Briggs is a maniac. That's the only difference. He of course, by this time next year (if Bynum really is good) will say that he alone saw the potential in Bynum. I'm sorry, he and Portland saw it. Then of course like one of Brigg's children you will agree.

Wow, someone has an attitude. BRIGGS brought up Bynum's name awhile ago. He didn't just jump on a bandwagon. To call someone who finds players for us that we've never seen or heard of a maniac is just stupidity. If it wasn't for BRIGGS, we would not have known who Bynum was for a long time. However, we knew about him before the other message boards because BRIGGS found out about him and informed us. BRIGGS isn't the most positive Knicks fan, but he is very intelligent and he makes us even smarter by telling us about guys we don't get the chance to watch or as Fish said, we choose not to watch. Say whatever you want man but don't call BRIGGS a maniac for doing the dirty work and informing us about the next great player.

The next great player??? My man, you are just as much as a maniac as Briggs if you're talking about GREATNESS and you've never seen a player play. He's great because Briggs thinks he's gonna be great? lol Wow!

We wouldn't know about Bynum if not for Briggs? HE IS ON EVERY MOCK DRAFT KNOWN TO MAN AT THE MOMENT. You may not have known about Bynum. Other people on this message board and others have....start with NBADraft.net. It's not that hard.

Just because Briggs is researching things doesn't mean that a player is going to be serviceable in the NBA....let alone good....let alone great. Even Briggs himself said that there is a chance that he flops. He just rather Bynum flop than have Frye. Here you come talking about 'the next great player' lol. You need to calm down. You're taking Briggs to literally my man. Ease up a little bit.

Go Frye Go!!!

Who cares - I think this kid and all the other draft picks are being overrated right now. Its pre draft hoopla and most wont pan out to be good players. Yes Bynum sounds like an interesting prospect - but if he has the potential that everyone thinks he has after reading all the crap out there about him - why are Bogut and Williams still going before him?

He isnt the second coming of Shaq.

(but if NY picks him, he better turn out to be)

[Edited by - OasisBU on 06/27/2005 16:14:02]

Posted by OasisBU:

Who cares - I think this kid and all the other draft picks are being overrated right now. Its pre draft hoopla and most wont pan out to be good players. Yes Bynum sounds like an interesting prospect - but if he has the potential that everyone thinks he has after reading all the crap out there about him - why are Bogut and Williams still going before him?

He isnt the second coming of Shaq.

(but if NY picks him, he better turn out to be)[Edited by - OasisBU on 06/27/2005 16:14:02]

Haha! Love it!