NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:If Wemby grows out his hair like Stephon Castle he will be ten feet tall

It's been said but this dude is an absolute freak. Was reading your message as he hit that deep-3. He just might be the GOAT in short-order

Guarantee he will eclipse LeBum and be in the conversation with MJ for best ever by this summer if he wins his first ring.

newyorknewyork wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Lin is a Randle hater is what I got from this

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/SixSpurs/status/2056132858675417523

Probably also a low key FU to Melo who was Randle before Randle.

Fair

I love Jeremy so much. Always will hold a warm place in my heart for him

Good commentary. On point

Is there room for me in this love-fest? I always liked Jeremy Lin and never understood the hate he got from the fan base. He's also clearly talented off the court as well. That dude should be apart of some network's half-time show.

The world is full of bigots who pretend the reason they hated Lin was not some kind of prejudice. In addition, many Lin haters in NYC were stupid Melo fans who felt it was necessary to take sides which was very telling. Nobody said you have to destroy Lin because you're a Melo fan, but I saw it happen too many times which made it clear it was some kind of cultish knee-jerk reaction. The way some people treated Lin was disgusting. He brought more joy to this franchise than any other player in 20 years and should be respected for it.

As a person with no extra special affinity for either Melo or Lin and can call the balls and strikes. Lin got hated on because he left the Knicks to sign with the Rockets. The doubling back for more money most likely did it. Hate he received was mostly coping due to giving fans that short term euphoria and then leaving. Melo has taken a lot more arrows than Lin ever has though. Case in point the shot he just took Philc1. Lin and Melo have never played a playoff game together, they played a grand total of 16 games together as Knicks. People speak like this was a Shaq & Kobe dynastic beef spanning 5 plus years whenever revisited lol.

KAT & Brunson took 2 full seasons, Thibs getting fired, and being down 2-1 in the playoffs vs the Hawks. For them to figure out how to play together in the most effective manor by comparison. And they are more efficient offensive players to begin with.

On a another note. Lin would be great for broadcasting and commentary for the NBA if he isn't already in some capacity. I could see it for him, he probably has great stories to tell given his unique NBA path as well as knowledge of the game.

We should also see Lin more within the Knicks alumni. Dolan is probably blocking due to still being pissed about Lin doubling back with the Rockets. But if he could forgive Sprewell for cursing him out and disrespecting him. He could bury that hatchet with Lin if that is even the case. Fans would love it and he would be good making his appearances, win-win.

Pretty fair and balanced take.

SergioNYK wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:If Wemby grows out his hair like Stephon Castle he will be ten feet tall

It's been said but this dude is an absolute freak. Was reading your message as he hit that deep-3. He just might be the GOAT in short-order

Guarantee he will eclipse LeBum and be in the conversation with MJ for best ever by this summer if he wins his first ring.

Maybe I'm being hyperbolic but I already think what he's doing has eclipsed peak-LeBron and overlaps alot with MJ. All he's missing are the rings and the rings will be coming if he stays healthy.

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Lin is a Randle hater is what I got from this

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/SixSpurs/status/2056132858675417523

Probably also a low key FU to Melo who was Randle before Randle.

Fair

I love Jeremy so much. Always will hold a warm place in my heart for him

Good commentary. On point

Is there room for me in this love-fest? I always liked Jeremy Lin and never understood the hate he got from the fan base. He's also clearly talented off the court as well. That dude should be apart of some network's half-time show.

The world is full of bigots who pretend the reason they hated Lin was not some kind of prejudice. In addition, many Lin haters in NYC were stupid Melo fans who felt it was necessary to take sides which was very telling. Nobody said you have to destroy Lin because you're a Melo fan, but I saw it happen too many times which made it clear it was some kind of cultish knee-jerk reaction. The way some people treated Lin was disgusting. He brought more joy to this franchise than any other player in 20 years and should be respected for it.

That is definitely true. I suppose the first one through the door always gets the most hate. Yao had to deal with similar issues but the Lin-hate seemed so much worse. As much as certain aspects about him did irritate me (constantly talking about his faith), he seemed like a good, well-intentioned dude.

It's the Melo-Lin dynamic that bugged me. I'm still a huge Melo-fan/defender but could not understand why being one would preclude me from being a fan of the other. As big of a fan as I am of Lin, Jalen Brunson is the one who brought more joy to the franchise over the past 20-30 years. He's the Prince that was promised

Knixkik wrote:I’m glad the thunder and Spurs are in the west. It’s going to be so hard for west teams to break through against both of them the next 8-10 years. Wemby, Castle and Harper are going to be hell. And imagine if they eventually move Fox for an elite wing/ forward to add to the mix ? And okc has picks to do whatever they want. 2 scary teams.

The silver-lining is that those teams will beat each other to a pulp until the Finals, which gives us a window to secure a title or two

NardDogNation wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Lin is a Randle hater is what I got from this

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/SixSpurs/status/2056132858675417523

Probably also a low key FU to Melo who was Randle before Randle.

Fair

I love Jeremy so much. Always will hold a warm place in my heart for him

Good commentary. On point

Is there room for me in this love-fest? I always liked Jeremy Lin and never understood the hate he got from the fan base. He's also clearly talented off the court as well. That dude should be apart of some network's half-time show.

The world is full of bigots who pretend the reason they hated Lin was not some kind of prejudice. In addition, many Lin haters in NYC were stupid Melo fans who felt it was necessary to take sides which was very telling. Nobody said you have to destroy Lin because you're a Melo fan, but I saw it happen too many times which made it clear it was some kind of cultish knee-jerk reaction. The way some people treated Lin was disgusting. He brought more joy to this franchise than any other player in 20 years and should be respected for it.

As a person with no extra special affinity for either Melo or Lin and can call the balls and strikes. Lin got hated on because he left the Knicks to sign with the Rockets. The doubling back for more money most likely did it. Hate he received was mostly coping due to giving fans that short term euphoria and then leaving. Melo has taken a lot more arrows than Lin ever has though. Case in point the shot he just took Philc1. Lin and Melo have never played a playoff game together, they played a grand total of 16 games together as Knicks. People speak like this was a Shaq & Kobe dynastic beef spanning 5 plus years whenever revisited lol.

KAT & Brunson took 2 full seasons, Thibs getting fired, and being down 2-1 in the playoffs vs the Hawks. For them to figure out how to play together in the most effective manor by comparison. And they are more efficient offensive players to begin with.

On a another note. Lin would be great for broadcasting and commentary for the NBA if he isn't already in some capacity. I could see it for him, he probably has great stories to tell given his unique NBA path as well as knowledge of the game.

We should also see Lin more within the Knicks alumni. Dolan is probably blocking due to still being pissed about Lin doubling back with the Rockets. But if he could forgive Sprewell for cursing him out and disrespecting him. He could bury that hatchet with Lin if that is even the case. Fans would love it and he would be good making his appearances, win-win.

All that might be true but the question still lingers....why the F didn't Dolan match HOU's offer? When you consider the bums we've given generational money to (e.g. Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Jared Jefferies, Shandon Anderson, Joakim Noah, etc), it made no sense especially when looking at the situation in hindsight. Pablo Prigioni was likely the best lead-guard for us during that era and that dude was already ~40 years old! The real villain here is Dolan; not Lin.

I think from Dolan's view he was letting Lin set up the market to find out what teams were gonna offer financially, and he had every intention of matching. Dolan most likley felt he was operating out of good faith. At the same time, Knicks also didn't want to pay Lin a lot more than what the market was offering and wanted to see what teams would offer knowing they had the power to match any deal.

Dolan most likely felt slighted that Lin signed the poison pill contract and it put the Knicks in a bind finacially when that 3rd year kicked in. More so than just not wanting to pay him. Espeically since he was originally offered a deal that the Knicks had every intention of matching. The optics of him doubling back for the poison pill. Seemed to go against the agreement of the two sides working in good faith to give Lin a deal based on the market. In Dolan's eyes anyway.

All in all. Knicks did not foresee the poison pill and were caught with their pants down by the Rockets who had nothing to lose at the time with Morey running show. Peotic Justice that the Knicks are the team that probably ends his career as Pres for an org. Lin signed the deal that was most lucrative for him in that moment.

But if he could do it over again based on how his career unfolded. If he signs that original 4 year $28mil deal and the Knicks match. Maybe he ends up getting another 4 year deal when his contract ended at 28. Now hes with the Knicks for 9 years. Now his legacy is a career with the Knicks. Could of been a John Starks type of loved figure.

newyorknewyork wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Lin is a Randle hater is what I got from this

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/SixSpurs/status/2056132858675417523

Probably also a low key FU to Melo who was Randle before Randle.

Fair

I love Jeremy so much. Always will hold a warm place in my heart for him

Good commentary. On point

Is there room for me in this love-fest? I always liked Jeremy Lin and never understood the hate he got from the fan base. He's also clearly talented off the court as well. That dude should be apart of some network's half-time show.

The world is full of bigots who pretend the reason they hated Lin was not some kind of prejudice. In addition, many Lin haters in NYC were stupid Melo fans who felt it was necessary to take sides which was very telling. Nobody said you have to destroy Lin because you're a Melo fan, but I saw it happen too many times which made it clear it was some kind of cultish knee-jerk reaction. The way some people treated Lin was disgusting. He brought more joy to this franchise than any other player in 20 years and should be respected for it.

As a person with no extra special affinity for either Melo or Lin and can call the balls and strikes. Lin got hated on because he left the Knicks to sign with the Rockets. The doubling back for more money most likely did it. Hate he received was mostly coping due to giving fans that short term euphoria and then leaving. Melo has taken a lot more arrows than Lin ever has though. Case in point the shot he just took Philc1. Lin and Melo have never played a playoff game together, they played a grand total of 16 games together as Knicks. People speak like this was a Shaq & Kobe dynastic beef spanning 5 plus years whenever revisited lol.

KAT & Brunson took 2 full seasons, Thibs getting fired, and being down 2-1 in the playoffs vs the Hawks. For them to figure out how to play together in the most effective manor by comparison. And they are more efficient offensive players to begin with.

On a another note. Lin would be great for broadcasting and commentary for the NBA if he isn't already in some capacity. I could see it for him, he probably has great stories to tell given his unique NBA path as well as knowledge of the game.

We should also see Lin more within the Knicks alumni. Dolan is probably blocking due to still being pissed about Lin doubling back with the Rockets. But if he could forgive Sprewell for cursing him out and disrespecting him. He could bury that hatchet with Lin if that is even the case. Fans would love it and he would be good making his appearances, win-win.

All that might be true but the question still lingers....why the F didn't Dolan match HOU's offer? When you consider the bums we've given generational money to (e.g. Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Jared Jefferies, Shandon Anderson, Joakim Noah, etc), it made no sense especially when looking at the situation in hindsight. Pablo Prigioni was likely the best lead-guard for us during that era and that dude was already ~40 years old! The real villain here is Dolan; not Lin.

I think from Dolan's view he was letting Lin set up the market to find out what teams were gonna offer financially, and he had every intention of matching. Dolan most likley felt he was operating out of good faith. At the same time, Knicks also didn't want to pay Lin a lot more than what the market was offering and wanted to see what teams would offer knowing they had the power to match any deal.

Dolan most likely felt slighted that Lin signed the poison pill contract and it put the Knicks in a bind finacially when that 3rd year kicked in. More so than just not wanting to pay him. Espeically since he was originally offered a deal that the Knicks had every intention of matching. The optics of him doubling back for the poison pill. Seemed to go against the agreement of the two sides working in good faith to give Lin a deal based on the market. In Dolan's eyes anyway.

All in all. Knicks did not foresee the poison pill and were caught with their pants down by the Rockets who had nothing to lose at the time with Morey running show. Peotic Justice that the Knicks are the team that probably ends his career as Pres for an org. Lin signed the deal that was most lucrative for him in that moment.

But if he could do it over again based on how his career unfolded. If he signs that original 4 year $28mil deal and the Knicks match. Maybe he ends up getting another 4 year deal when his contract ended at 28. Now hes with the Knicks for 9 years. Now his legacy is a career with the Knicks. Could of been a John Starks type of loved figure.

If you let a player take offers to set the market, then blaming the player for that doesn't make sense. Fans being angry at Lin for that when all Dolan had to do was offer him a fair contract also makes no sense.

My original point is there was a contingent of Melo fans who thought it was a Melo vs. Lin world and because they were Melo stans they were now somehow opposed to Lin. The rumors going around was Melo was jealous of Lin and maybe Melo's fans found that offensive, but whatever bug got up that subset of fans azzholes it was noxious behavior that sometimes overlapped with outright bigotry.

Blaming Lin for taking a poison pill deal is ludicrous when he just wanted a deal of some kind, because that's what undrafted players do when they hit a lucky streak in the NBA, they try to get paid like everyone else would. We could have signed him, but we didn't so when he set the market blaming it on Lin it absolutely insane.

BlueKnickers wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Lin is a Randle hater is what I got from this

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/SixSpurs/status/2056132858675417523

Probably also a low key FU to Melo who was Randle before Randle.

Fair

I love Jeremy so much. Always will hold a warm place in my heart for him

Good commentary. On point

Is there room for me in this love-fest? I always liked Jeremy Lin and never understood the hate he got from the fan base. He's also clearly talented off the court as well. That dude should be apart of some network's half-time show.

The world is full of bigots who pretend the reason they hated Lin was not some kind of prejudice. In addition, many Lin haters in NYC were stupid Melo fans who felt it was necessary to take sides which was very telling. Nobody said you have to destroy Lin because you're a Melo fan, but I saw it happen too many times which made it clear it was some kind of cultish knee-jerk reaction. The way some people treated Lin was disgusting. He brought more joy to this franchise than any other player in 20 years and should be respected for it.

As a person with no extra special affinity for either Melo or Lin and can call the balls and strikes. Lin got hated on because he left the Knicks to sign with the Rockets. The doubling back for more money most likely did it. Hate he received was mostly coping due to giving fans that short term euphoria and then leaving. Melo has taken a lot more arrows than Lin ever has though. Case in point the shot he just took Philc1. Lin and Melo have never played a playoff game together, they played a grand total of 16 games together as Knicks. People speak like this was a Shaq & Kobe dynastic beef spanning 5 plus years whenever revisited lol.

KAT & Brunson took 2 full seasons, Thibs getting fired, and being down 2-1 in the playoffs vs the Hawks. For them to figure out how to play together in the most effective manor by comparison. And they are more efficient offensive players to begin with.

On a another note. Lin would be great for broadcasting and commentary for the NBA if he isn't already in some capacity. I could see it for him, he probably has great stories to tell given his unique NBA path as well as knowledge of the game.

We should also see Lin more within the Knicks alumni. Dolan is probably blocking due to still being pissed about Lin doubling back with the Rockets. But if he could forgive Sprewell for cursing him out and disrespecting him. He could bury that hatchet with Lin if that is even the case. Fans would love it and he would be good making his appearances, win-win.

All that might be true but the question still lingers....why the F didn't Dolan match HOU's offer? When you consider the bums we've given generational money to (e.g. Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Jared Jefferies, Shandon Anderson, Joakim Noah, etc), it made no sense especially when looking at the situation in hindsight. Pablo Prigioni was likely the best lead-guard for us during that era and that dude was already ~40 years old! The real villain here is Dolan; not Lin.

I think from Dolan's view he was letting Lin set up the market to find out what teams were gonna offer financially, and he had every intention of matching. Dolan most likley felt he was operating out of good faith. At the same time, Knicks also didn't want to pay Lin a lot more than what the market was offering and wanted to see what teams would offer knowing they had the power to match any deal.

Dolan most likely felt slighted that Lin signed the poison pill contract and it put the Knicks in a bind finacially when that 3rd year kicked in. More so than just not wanting to pay him. Espeically since he was originally offered a deal that the Knicks had every intention of matching. The optics of him doubling back for the poison pill. Seemed to go against the agreement of the two sides working in good faith to give Lin a deal based on the market. In Dolan's eyes anyway.

All in all. Knicks did not foresee the poison pill and were caught with their pants down by the Rockets who had nothing to lose at the time with Morey running show. Peotic Justice that the Knicks are the team that probably ends his career as Pres for an org. Lin signed the deal that was most lucrative for him in that moment.

But if he could do it over again based on how his career unfolded. If he signs that original 4 year $28mil deal and the Knicks match. Maybe he ends up getting another 4 year deal when his contract ended at 28. Now hes with the Knicks for 9 years. Now his legacy is a career with the Knicks. Could of been a John Starks type of loved figure.

If you let a player take offers to set the market, then blaming the player for that doesn't make sense. Fans being angry at Lin for that when all Dolan had to do was offer him a fair contract also makes no sense.

My original point is there was a contingent of Melo fans who thought it was a Melo vs. Lin world and because they were Melo stans they were now somehow opposed to Lin. The rumors going around was Melo was jealous of Lin and maybe Melo's fans found that offensive, but whatever bug got up that subset of fans azzholes it was noxious behavior that sometimes overlapped with outright bigotry.

Blaming Lin for taking a poison pill deal is ludicrous when he just wanted a deal of some kind, because that's what undrafted players do when they hit a lucky streak in the NBA, they try to get paid like everyone else would. We could have signed him, but we didn't so when he set the market blaming it on Lin it absolutely insane.

Knicks didn’t want to offer Lin a big contract because 1) they didn’t think he was that good 2) he didn’t get along with Melo and there was division in the locker room and 3) Kidd was available as UFA for way less years and guaranteed money. Felton was also available.

And to be fair they were right on all counts.