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BigDaddyG
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12/27/2022  10:10 AM
Nalod wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:I think I'd prefer if they did nothing at this point.And whoever suggested this in the FO should be fired on the spot.

Before we start executing the FO, perhaps it was a Cam, EF, Rose for Harris thing and Grimes comes off the bench. Not saying thats my preference but knicks were not going anywhere but down at that moment.
Philly was struggling also and lacks depth. Both teams got hot.

They talked. No harm was done.

Would still be a bad move considering his fit. Where do you play him? Who does he defend? You really want to see a SL with Harris and RJ on the opposing teams top wings?

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ToddTT
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12/27/2022  10:18 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
SergioNYK
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12/27/2022  10:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2022  10:47 AM
Tobias Harris is a weird fit on the court and financially. He's too expensive to bring off the bench so you either have to swap him for either Randle or RJ or bring one of those three off the bench. Starting all of them together and bring Grimes off the bench spells disaster imo. I guess it can work if you bring Harris or RJ off the bench as we need a scorer in that second unit but that's tricky. Most players look at that Ginobili role off the bench as a demotion.

I think I'd pass. Unless it's a dirt cheap deal like Fournier and Rose with maybe one pick attached (not our own). But even then I still might pass. Too much drama.

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12/27/2022  12:48 PM
SergioNYK wrote:Tobias Harris is a weird fit on the court and financially. He's too expensive to bring off the bench so you either have to swap him for either Randle or RJ or bring one of those three off the bench. Starting all of them together and bring Grimes off the bench spells disaster imo. I guess it can work if you bring Harris or RJ off the bench as we need a scorer in that second unit but that's tricky. Most players look at that Ginobili role off the bench as a demotion.

I think I'd pass. Unless it's a dirt cheap deal like Fournier and Rose with maybe one pick attached (not our own). But even then I still might pass. Too much drama.

Your not wrong in many aspects. Especially financially. Im not sure how much a disaster it becomes. RJ is a handful now at the sf. It could allow Grimes more time with second unit and more touches there. This is not permanent, its could help develop grimes more. Not seeing his body is ready for starter minutes YET.
Its not who starts, its who finishes. Grimes is coming along great. Harris makes us really big. He can play the 4. Randle will get hurt at some point. They all do. Even RJ.
Tobias contract is insane, it has one more year after this one. Same as EF, Same as Drose. Add in Reddish and you there.

Its my belief one of Toppin or IQ are traded mid season. Not saying this is me promoting it.

As for Harris, Im not selling it. Im just trying to understand it. Remember the context that it was before knicks got their **** together. Harris contract clears out three players not in our rotation and is a placeholder until more draft picks are in and substantial if that even is a thing going forward.

Grimes has fit in wonderfully but if we do that deal you don't get that hindsight. If he came off the bench and played we'd be happy if team was winning regardless!
Again, just trying to understand the trade, the timing/context of the moment it would have been discussed.

Would it have worked? Who knows. the knicks were in "Disaster" already at that time! We can agree on that. As was Philly.
No mention of what was offered so I am only speculating that Thibs was thinking of pulling EF and Cam off the rotation before he did it.

ESOMKnicks
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12/30/2022  1:30 PM
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

That's really cool. May I also ask where you are learning Python?

I took a short 2 month Python for data analysis online course during the quarantines, but have forgotten everything by now.

ToddTT
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12/30/2022  7:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/31/2022  6:13 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

That's really cool. May I also ask where you are learning Python?

I took a short 2 month Python for data analysis online course during the quarantines, but have forgotten everything by now.

At work I have access to content on Udemy.com. They have a couple of really good courses. Jose Portillo is the guy to look for. Perfect pacing, easy to listen to.

Google, Stack Overflow, etc.

And YouTube. Good channel here to learn in bite size chunks… https://www.YouTube.com/neuralnine

Examples and source code…

https://matplotlib.org/

https://seaborn.pydata.org/

And I’ve been using Jupyter Notebook, which I really dig.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
ESOMKnicks
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12/31/2022  2:05 AM
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

That's really cool. May I also ask where you are learning Python?

I took a short 2 month Python for data analysis online course during the quarantines, but have forgotten everything by now.

At work I have access to content on Udemy.com. They have a couple of really good courses. Jose Portillo is the guy to look for. Perfect pacing, easy to listen to.

Google, Stack Overflow, etc.

And YouTube. Good channel here to learn in bite size chunks… https://www.YouTube.com/nueralnine

Examples and source code…

https://matplotlib.org/

https://seaborn.pydata.org/

And I’ve been using Jupyter Notebook, which I really dig.

Wow, this is awesome!!! Thank you so much for the recommendations!!!!

ramtour420
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12/31/2022  8:36 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

That's really cool. May I also ask where you are learning Python?

I took a short 2 month Python for data analysis online course during the quarantines, but have forgotten everything by now.

At work I have access to content on Udemy.com. They have a couple of really good courses. Jose Portillo is the guy to look for. Perfect pacing, easy to listen to.

Google, Stack Overflow, etc.

And YouTube. Good channel here to learn in bite size chunks… https://www.YouTube.com/nueralnine

Examples and source code…

https://matplotlib.org/

https://seaborn.pydata.org/

And I’ve been using Jupyter Notebook, which I really dig.

Wow, this is awesome!!! Thank you so much for the recommendations!!!!

Zomg, that's awesome, ty. I am studying DA too. This is going straight into my bookmarks.

Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
Alpha1971
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1/1/2023  9:44 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

That's really cool. May I also ask where you are learning Python?

I took a short 2 month Python for data analysis online course during the quarantines, but have forgotten everything by now.

At work I have access to content on Udemy.com. They have a couple of really good courses. Jose Portillo is the guy to look for. Perfect pacing, easy to listen to.

Google, Stack Overflow, etc.

And YouTube. Good channel here to learn in bite size chunks… https://www.YouTube.com/nueralnine

Examples and source code…

https://matplotlib.org/

https://seaborn.pydata.org/

And I’ve been using Jupyter Notebook, which I really dig.

Wow, this is awesome!!! Thank you so much for the recommendations!!!!

Zomg, that's awesome, ty. I am studying DA too. This is going straight into my bookmarks.

Can any of that stuff help me use a Commodore 64 to conjure up a Kelly Labrock ? Or maybe a better a Emy Reyes ?

ToddTT
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1/1/2023  9:33 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

That's really cool. May I also ask where you are learning Python?

I took a short 2 month Python for data analysis online course during the quarantines, but have forgotten everything by now.

At work I have access to content on Udemy.com. They have a couple of really good courses. Jose Portillo is the guy to look for. Perfect pacing, easy to listen to.

Google, Stack Overflow, etc.

And YouTube. Good channel here to learn in bite size chunks… https://www.YouTube.com/nueralnine

Examples and source code…

https://matplotlib.org/

https://seaborn.pydata.org/

And I’ve been using Jupyter Notebook, which I really dig.

Wow, this is awesome!!! Thank you so much for the recommendations!!!!

Zomg, that's awesome, ty. I am studying DA too. This is going straight into my bookmarks.

Can any of that stuff help me use a Commodore 64 to conjure up a Kelly Labrock ? Or maybe a better a Emy Reyes ?

I always preferred Vanessa Angel. But sadly, no.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
BigDaddyG
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1/1/2023  9:47 PM
ToddTT wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

That's really cool. May I also ask where you are learning Python?

I took a short 2 month Python for data analysis online course during the quarantines, but have forgotten everything by now.

At work I have access to content on Udemy.com. They have a couple of really good courses. Jose Portillo is the guy to look for. Perfect pacing, easy to listen to.

Google, Stack Overflow, etc.

And YouTube. Good channel here to learn in bite size chunks… https://www.YouTube.com/nueralnine

Examples and source code…

https://matplotlib.org/

https://seaborn.pydata.org/

And I’ve been using Jupyter Notebook, which I really dig.

Wow, this is awesome!!! Thank you so much for the recommendations!!!!

Zomg, that's awesome, ty. I am studying DA too. This is going straight into my bookmarks.

Can any of that stuff help me use a Commodore 64 to conjure up a Kelly Labrock ? Or maybe a better a Emy Reyes ?

I always preferred Vanessa Angel. But sadly, no.


Just looked up before and after pics. I think Kelly had a much higher ceiling, but a way lower floor. Plus, she married Steven Seagal. There's gotta be some weird mental issues going on with that, right?
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
Alpha1971
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1/2/2023  4:59 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Martin, any chance that posts support HTML tables?

How do you manage to post them so nice and pretty?

LOL. I'm learning Python, and using NBA data to make it interesting.

For geeks, you can scrape the data from a web page into a Pandas DataFrame.

From there, you can call .to_html() to convert to an HTML table. Or in this case, I convert the data to monospace text which is friendlier to UK posts.

Then you need the UK secret sauce which is using the [ code ][ /code ] tags when posting.

That's really cool. May I also ask where you are learning Python?

I took a short 2 month Python for data analysis online course during the quarantines, but have forgotten everything by now.

At work I have access to content on Udemy.com. They have a couple of really good courses. Jose Portillo is the guy to look for. Perfect pacing, easy to listen to.

Google, Stack Overflow, etc.

And YouTube. Good channel here to learn in bite size chunks… https://www.YouTube.com/nueralnine

Examples and source code…

https://matplotlib.org/

https://seaborn.pydata.org/

And I’ve been using Jupyter Notebook, which I really dig.

Wow, this is awesome!!! Thank you so much for the recommendations!!!!

Zomg, that's awesome, ty. I am studying DA too. This is going straight into my bookmarks.

Can any of that stuff help me use a Commodore 64 to conjure up a Kelly Labrock ? Or maybe a better a Emy Reyes ?

I always preferred Vanessa Angel. But sadly, no.


Just looked up before and after pics. I think Kelly had a much higher ceiling, but a way lower floor. Plus, she married Steven Seagal. There's gotta be some weird mental issues going on with that, right?

Reminds me of Tawny Kittain.
NardDogNation
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1/2/2023  7:47 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I think I'd prefer if they did nothing at this point.And whoever suggested this in the FO should be fired on the spot.

Expand the deal to include Embiid and I'd have no problem with it, lol.

But seriously, I do wonder how well we'd be able to field an offer for Embiid if he ever got disgruntled. I'd like to think that the Donovan Mitchell package (all the picks and youth) would get us pretty close but the Morey-factor complicates things IMO. That aside, I do like the idea of using Tobias Harris as a 6th man behind Barrett and Randle.

STARTERS
G: Jalen Brunson
G/F: Quentin Grimes
G/F: RJ Barrett
F/C: Julius Randle
C: Joel Embiid

ROTATION
G: Duece McBride
G/F: Matisse Thybulle
F: Tobias Harris
C: Isiah Hartenstein

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2duwrl9z ....plus ALL the picks

Alpha1971
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1/2/2023  7:57 PM
Man can we trade for the Japanese player on the Nets ?
BigDaddyG
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1/2/2023  8:08 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:I think I'd prefer if they did nothing at this point.And whoever suggested this in the FO should be fired on the spot.

Expand the deal to include Embiid and I'd have no problem with it, lol.

But seriously, I do wonder how well we'd be able to field an offer for Embiid if he ever got disgruntled. I'd like to think that the Donovan Mitchell package (all the picks and youth) would get us pretty close but the Morey-factor complicates things IMO. That aside, I do like the idea of using Tobias Harris as a 6th man behind Barrett and Randle.

STARTERS
G: Jalen Brunson
G/F: Quentin Grimes
G/F: RJ Barrett
F/C: Julius Randle
C: Joel Embiid

ROTATION
G: Duece McBride
G/F: Matisse Thybulle
F: Tobias Harris
C: Isiah Hartenstein

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2duwrl9z ....plus ALL the picks

The problem with a disgruntled Embiid is that you'd be competing against 50% of the league. I'd expect OKC and Toronto to jump in as well.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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1/2/2023  8:41 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:I think I'd prefer if they did nothing at this point.And whoever suggested this in the FO should be fired on the spot.

Expand the deal to include Embiid and I'd have no problem with it, lol.

But seriously, I do wonder how well we'd be able to field an offer for Embiid if he ever got disgruntled. I'd like to think that the Donovan Mitchell package (all the picks and youth) would get us pretty close but the Morey-factor complicates things IMO. That aside, I do like the idea of using Tobias Harris as a 6th man behind Barrett and Randle.

STARTERS
G: Jalen Brunson
G/F: Quentin Grimes
G/F: RJ Barrett
F/C: Julius Randle
C: Joel Embiid

ROTATION
G: Duece McBride
G/F: Matisse Thybulle
F: Tobias Harris
C: Isiah Hartenstein

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2duwrl9z ....plus ALL the picks

The problem with a disgruntled Embiid is that you'd be competing against 50% of the league. I'd expect OKC and Toronto to jump in as well.

I see TOR being serious contenders but not OKC. As much as Embiid is locked into a relatively long-term deal, players generally get to go to where they want. As talented as OKC is, I don't see him wanting to be there but I get your overall point. We have a gang of picks but I'm not sure that means much to someone like Morey. I don't think Embiid is long for Philly though, even with this recent win-streak.

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1/3/2023  6:20 AM
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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1/3/2023  7:42 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:

That is wild

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1/3/2023  10:33 AM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:

That is wild

The best part is that the Luka game is becoming an after thought. That Bulls meltdown was as bad, maybe even worse, than ours.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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