smackeddog wrote:I’m presuming we’re done now apart from fathoming out how to keep Pinson? Looking at salaries there’s no way we can trade for Miles Turner as we don’t have the contracts at the moment to match the salary (that was the only remaining rumor)

Mitch, Obi, and Knox for Turner work salary wise for Turner on realgm.

smackeddog wrote:I’m presuming we’re done now apart from fathoming out how to keep Pinson? Looking at salaries there’s no way we can trade for Miles Turner as we don’t have the contracts at the moment to match the salary (that was the only remaining rumor)

Not sure but I thought we could extend Mitch without impacting our CAP limit and then throw him in a trade.

Maybe something like Mitch signs 4 $48M (12 per) ~~ then Knicks move Mitch/Knox and say a future #1 (maybe next years Charlotte).

Not sure if above is possible but thought that is how deal centered around Mitch/Turner would go down.

smackeddog wrote:I’m presuming we’re done now apart from fathoming out how to keep Pinson? Looking at salaries there’s no way we can trade for Miles Turner as we don’t have the contracts at the moment to match the salary (that was the only remaining rumor)

Keeping Theo is a thing?

smackeddog wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:NBA is investigating the Bulls， Raptors and Heat. I thought it was weird they hadn't announced the lowry trade yet， I guess we now know why. I think the Pelicans have a strong case here.

Why do teams rush out an announcement/leak out to Woj that they've reached a deal almost immediately after free agency starts, doesn't it just make it seem really obvious tampering has taken place for no real gain?

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Remember years ago when Stern cancelled that Miami signing of Juwan Howard or someone and he ended up signing roughly the same deal with his current team at the time (the Wizards)- wasn't sure at the time if Miami had done wrong or if Stern was just reacting to the Washington backlash. Was a bad contract in the end!

I assume this is happening because- can’t teams talk to agents of their own players? And if that agent reps someone else, isn’t almost hard not to talk about things related to them?

I think they have to just make some changes, and acknowledge these kinds of things are going to happen.

smackeddog wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:NBA is investigating the Bulls， Raptors and Heat. I thought it was weird they hadn't announced the lowry trade yet， I guess we now know why. I think the Pelicans have a strong case here.

Why do teams rush out an announcement/leak out to Woj that they've reached a deal almost immediately after free agency starts, doesn't it just make it seem really obvious tampering has taken place for no real gain?

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Remember years ago when Stern cancelled that Miami signing of Juwan Howard or someone and he ended up signing roughly the same deal with his current team at the time (the Wizards)- wasn't sure at the time if Miami had done wrong or if Stern was just reacting to the Washington backlash. Was a bad contract in the end!

The NBA voided the Howard contract with the Heat because it violated the salary cap at the time. I think that was 1997.

Who knows how Woj is getting these stories. It could be some idiot in the player’s entourage selling info for cash.

Glad to see the nba actually enforcing its rules and not just against the Knicks this time. It’s very rare when I compliment Adam Silver but I will this time

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Marv wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Lakers fans. Can't think of a fan base with their heads more up their asses. All those guys are worse than Fournier and maybe one of those guys, maybe two if you want to count Melo, make our squad.

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Would u rather have those 7 lakers for 15M this year or kemba and rose for 22M?

That guy is actually bragging about the lakers signing Wayne f cking Ellington!?!!?

And Dwight Howard might have been a good signing 15 years ago?

Howard is a great backup Center.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Clean wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Marv wrote:

Would u rather have those 7 lakers for 15M this year or kemba and rose for 22M?

That guy is actually bragging about the lakers signing Wayne f cking Ellington!?!!?

And Dwight Howard might have been a good signing 15 years ago?

Howard is a great backup Center.

That's right. Plus, they have LeBron, AD and now Westbrook. They have the right to brag. If hypothetically offered the opportunity to trade Randle-RJ-Kemba for LeBron-AD-RW, who on this thread would say the Knicks should turn it down?

You are comparing $40mm of salary to $116mm of salary. Kind of an apples to oranges argument.

As much as I dislike him and his super friend mentality, he is the best basketball player of this generation AND plays with a certain kind of agelessness that makes it hard to predict whether he will falter this year or 5 years from now. There is no one on our team that compares in value or talent.

AD has youth and dominance that we hope Randle can match over time, but Randle doesn’t have the same body type. In a vacuum, no emotion, you probably take AD over Randle - though injury history might be enough to call it a push flight Randle shows up again this year.

Westbrook vs Kemba favors Westbrook from a stats perspective and a health perspective. I just question Westbrook’s fit on any team. In a 1 on 1 tournament or. 3 on 3 with 2 shills, I think Westbrook outperforms. I just wonder how his usage rate affects anyone near him on a team. Hard to believe that Washington and Celtics missed a conversation on Kemba for Brodie at full price. At full price, which team said no? I’m guessing because of injury history, Westbrook wins over Kemba. We have to expect he will miss 20+ games. At his best, Kemba isn’t as good as Westbrook’s athleticism. But Kemba is a more rounded player (read: Shoots better). At $8mm, he is a steal for us. I wouldn’t have been as excited at $41mm.

So, the big difference is the $70mm or so of salary differential. Lakers make this up in Vet Min contracts. Understated values.

It’s hard to fully compete in this super friends (fiends?) environment. Figure we just keep building and trying to turn heads.

So, wouldn’t turn that trade down. Just don’t see it as a viable alternative.