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6/25/2021  7:33 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:Our loss to the Hawks keeps looking better and better. These guys might end up playing the Suns in the finals. Their coach must be a magician because the turnaround from that team after he took over is legendary.

Or their last coach was supremely inept. Remember how good Fizdale mad Mike Miller look?

I think it’s a mix of this and also a young team leveling up as they enjoy the challenges ahead. You can see this ATL team growing closer and leveling up to the challenges with that underdog mentality. They believe in Trae but know that they are more than him. He does too, so he keeps the team together. It’s a really good story for them.

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6/25/2021  10:00 AM
Dallas had a sting conviction on luka and got their guy. Atl might have not seen it the same way and both “won”. Can’t reverse engineer the deals. It happens with frequently of opportunities. We laughed at Atl not getting anywhere for years to justify starphucks. We got lucky with Randle and jr is a blue chipper. We know what we need. It’s getting it that is not easy!
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6/25/2021  1:41 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:Our loss to the Hawks keeps looking better and better. These guys might end up playing the Suns in the finals. Their coach must be a magician because the turnaround from that team after he took over is legendary.

Or their last coach was supremely inept. Remember how good Fizdale mad Mike Miller look?

I think it’s a mix of this and also a young team leveling up as they enjoy the challenges ahead. You can see this ATL team growing closer and leveling up to the challenges with that underdog mentality. They believe in Trae but know that they are more than him. He does too, so he keeps the team together. It’s a really good story for them.

You very often get these deep unheralded Cinderella runs, where a young team with no pressure of expectations plays looser and more confident than the competition which actually helps it succeed, where the opposition is mentally held back by self doubt. Kinda like the Knicks' "rebellious slaves" team in 1999, which was fun while it lasted, but proved too difficult to repeat and then completely crashed and burned in two years.
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6/25/2021  5:18 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:Our loss to the Hawks keeps looking better and better. These guys might end up playing the Suns in the finals. Their coach must be a magician because the turnaround from that team after he took over is legendary.

Or their last coach was supremely inept. Remember how good Fizdale mad Mike Miller look?

Fizdale is the worst basketball coach I have ever seen
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6/25/2021  5:21 PM
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Chandler wrote:Kidd started his career with Mavs. but one can wonder if there's a hidden joke in there.

Surprised how much he's making from Pacers

Kidd comment seemed odd.

I actually think he was being genuine. Kidd was a big reason Carlisle won that championship in 2011. They probably still have a good relationship
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6/25/2021  9:30 PM
Hawks getting WRECKED tonight.
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6/25/2021  9:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2021  9:52 PM
Trae again showing the best way to defend him is to give him the 3pt shot. He is 1 - 7 tonight and 30% on the post season. He is more dangerous after PNR you have to play off him to give you enough space to not allow him to drive by you but not enough space for him to get a wide open shot. If you can give him the threat of a contest that is good enough.
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6/26/2021  8:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/26/2021  8:57 AM
Clean wrote:Trae again showing the best way to defend him is to give him the 3pt shot. He is 1 - 7 tonight and 30% on the post season. He is more dangerous after PNR you have to play off him to give you enough space to not allow him to drive by you but not enough space for him to get a wide open shot. If you can give him the threat of a contest that is good enough.

Agreed. You need to take away something. Those long bombs when missed lead to long rebounds and breakouts which their guards can’t defend. It also somewhat neutralizes cappella strength on offensive rebounding

Now if he hits those you have a tough decision on whether to let him keep shooting or not.

Also I think he irritates his teammates if he takes too many

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6/26/2021  11:21 PM
Someone needs to write a rap song about Ayton.
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6/27/2021  4:04 AM

Wonder if we hire him as Woody's replacement, I remember the Knicks praised him and a couple of other candidates after we finished our head coach interviews
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6/27/2021  4:05 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Someone needs to write a rap song about Ayton.

These Suns are really appealing: play the right way, confident skilled players. Ayton positively looking more and more like the Admiral. Booker looking like a West or a Clyde Frazier.

To me these are some of the best playoffs in history, and whoever is crowned as the champion would really deserve genuine admiration and respect. These are azzhole-free conference finals.
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6/27/2021  11:22 AM
smackeddog wrote:

Wonder if we hire him as Woody's replacement, I remember the Knicks praised him and a couple of other candidates after we finished our head coach interviews

Yikes. Mavs definitely got some organizational things to work on

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6/27/2021  12:05 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Someone needs to write a rap song about Ayton.

These Suns are really appealing: play the right way, confident skilled players. Ayton positively looking more and more like the Admiral. Booker looking like a West or a Clyde Frazier.

To me these are some of the best playoffs in history, and whoever is crowned as the champion would really deserve genuine admiration and respect. These are azzhole-free conference finals.

injuries played a huge role this postseason. suns are a nice team but no way they should be in wcf. but luck plays a huge part in things and the injuries were the suns luck.
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6/27/2021  12:25 PM
djsunyc wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Someone needs to write a rap song about Ayton.

These Suns are really appealing: play the right way, confident skilled players. Ayton positively looking more and more like the Admiral. Booker looking like a West or a Clyde Frazier.

To me these are some of the best playoffs in history, and whoever is crowned as the champion would really deserve genuine admiration and respect. These are azzhole-free conference finals.

injuries played a huge role this postseason finals 2 years ago. Totonto suns was are a nice team but no way they should be in wcf Champions. but luck plays a huge part in things and the injuries were the suns Raptors luck.

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6/27/2021  12:33 PM
paul george had a huge opportunity to change the narrative about him once kawhi went down but he couldn't right the ship.
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6/27/2021  12:34 PM
martin wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Someone needs to write a rap song about Ayton.

These Suns are really appealing: play the right way, confident skilled players. Ayton positively looking more and more like the Admiral. Booker looking like a West or a Clyde Frazier.

To me these are some of the best playoffs in history, and whoever is crowned as the champion would really deserve genuine admiration and respect. These are azzhole-free conference finals.

injuries played a huge role this postseason finals 2 years ago. Totonto suns was are a nice team but no way they should be in wcf Champions. but luck plays a huge part in things and the injuries were the suns Raptors luck.

FIXED it for you

:)

well considering that was the last real nba season, they're the last real nba champs imho.
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6/27/2021  2:32 PM
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
FIXED it for you

:)

well considering that was the last real nba season, they're the last real nba champs imho.

Then you also put a large asterisk next to the Knicks' 1999 finals run in the lockout-shortened season.
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6/27/2021  2:49 PM
djsunyc wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Someone needs to write a rap song about Ayton.

These Suns are really appealing: play the right way, confident skilled players. Ayton positively looking more and more like the Admiral. Booker looking like a West or a Clyde Frazier.

To me these are some of the best playoffs in history, and whoever is crowned as the champion would really deserve genuine admiration and respect. These are azzhole-free conference finals.

injuries played a huge role this postseason. suns are a nice team but no way they should be in wcf. but luck plays a huge part in things and the injuries were the suns luck.

That Chris Paul is still playing matters. When he got hurt in CLipperland and Houston the team suffered big.
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6/27/2021  6:21 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
FIXED it for you

:)

well considering that was the last real nba season, they're the last real nba champs imho.

Then you also put a large asterisk next to the Knicks' 1999 finals run in the lockout-shortened season.

i wouldn't go that far.

last year involved a unique situation in the bubble. comparing that to any other nba season doesn't really work.

this season you had most of the season in empty gyms and one team in tampa. again, completely different from every other season.

i think both covid effected seasons are unique and live on their own. a strike shortened season really is just fewer games but everything else is the same.
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6/27/2021  10:39 PM
Wiggins for KP? McCollum for KP?
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