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12/11/2015  1:30 AM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Melo had Calderon wide open on the wing and KP wide open underneath for that last shot. I think he would've been more likely to get the foul call passing than shooting a wild off balance three. Can't expect the refs to bail you out from 27ft away from the hoop.

I think something is up with Melo's knee though. He missed what five free throws and air balled a 15ft jumper from the wing that is usually a layup for him.

and whats wrong with his brain? Wtf does he not get it that it does not have to be him??

He has the same thing Kobe has. Melo at 35 is gonna be ugly to watch.

Midseason, he will get his legs back. He has been missing a lot of easy put backs, all of those will be positive plays soon

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/11/2015  1:30 AM
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TPercy wrote:Nevermind. That was Melos fault aswell. KP was wide open under the basket

Tough pass to make in time allowed . . .

I disagree. That is a simple lob pass
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12/11/2015  1:30 AM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
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Malcolm wrote:If I were Fisher . . . I wouldn't run another end of game play for Carmelo for the rest of the season.

It reinforces too many habits that Knicks want to get away from.

If we had a GOOD breakdown PG who was dependable you could let him create and open things up for MELO or someone else. This is the missing link. Jerian isn't ready but we can't rely on Jose to break down a D.

of course that is a big problem but there are many problems.

Love that they are getting further and further away from the triangle. The less they run it the better they look.

They didn't go away from the Triangle! You really don't know what you're looking at. It's clear to me that you don't understand the Triangle. Just cuz they pushed the ball and got some easier buckets doesn't mean they weren't running the Triangle.

they ran pNr almost exclusively.

So now you will say that PnR is the damn triangle.

Everything is the triangle?

The Melo/KP pick and roll at the top of the key was an actual good adjustment by Fisher. And definitely not the Triangle.

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12/11/2015  1:31 AM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Malcolm wrote:If I were Fisher . . . I wouldn't run another end of game play for Carmelo for the rest of the season.

It reinforces too many habits that Knicks want to get away from.

If we had a GOOD breakdown PG who was dependable you could let him create and open things up for MELO or someone else. This is the missing link. Jerian isn't ready but we can't rely on Jose to break down a D.

of course that is a big problem but there are many problems.

Love that they are getting further and further away from the triangle. The less they run it the better they look.

They didn't go away from the Triangle! You really don't know what you're looking at. It's clear to me that you don't understand the Triangle. Just cuz they pushed the ball and got some easier buckets doesn't mean they weren't running the Triangle.

they ran pNr almost exclusively.

So now you will say that PnR is the damn triangle.

Everything is the triangle?

You really don't know WTF you're talking about! SMH! Please don't challenge me on this.

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12/11/2015  1:31 AM
TPercy wrote:Does anyone else notice that KP sets half ass screens?

yes. His screens need lots of work but also, our PG don't have a clue how to use a pick especially Gallo. No clue at all. He never leads his defender into the pick.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/11/2015  1:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2015  1:32 AM
TPercy wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
TPercy wrote:Nevermind. That was Melos fault aswell. KP was wide open under the basket

Tough pass to make in time allowed . . .

I disagree. That is a simple lob pass

That was before I saw the photo --you're right.
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12/11/2015  1:32 AM
mreinman wrote:
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TPercy wrote:Nevermind. That was Melos fault aswell. KP was wide open under the basket


Yep.

uch ... now I'm even sicker

Everyone in the building knew Melo was shooting. He would've shot if he had four guys on him.

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12/11/2015  1:33 AM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Malcolm wrote:If I were Fisher . . . I wouldn't run another end of game play for Carmelo for the rest of the season.

It reinforces too many habits that Knicks want to get away from.

If we had a GOOD breakdown PG who was dependable you could let him create and open things up for MELO or someone else. This is the missing link. Jerian isn't ready but we can't rely on Jose to break down a D.

of course that is a big problem but there are many problems.

Love that they are getting further and further away from the triangle. The less they run it the better they look.

They didn't go away from the Triangle! You really don't know what you're looking at. It's clear to me that you don't understand the Triangle. Just cuz they pushed the ball and got some easier buckets doesn't mean they weren't running the Triangle.

they ran pNr almost exclusively.

So now you will say that PnR is the damn triangle.

Everything is the triangle?

The Melo/KP pick and roll at the top of the key was an actual good adjustment by Fisher. And definitely not the Triangle.

you don't know what you were watching!! that was the modified PnR triangle! Its all triangles!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/11/2015  1:33 AM
Sadly, with the way Melo suddenly sucks at the FT line, if they did call
the foul... who knows what would have happened? Ferocious comeback but typical,
not enough to win. They really seem to be playing tight & with no confidence.
They pass when they are open. I agree if Melo's knee is bothering him, rest him.
One of the strong runs we had to bring the game back within reach was with Melo on the bench.
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12/11/2015  1:34 AM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Malcolm wrote:If I were Fisher . . . I wouldn't run another end of game play for Carmelo for the rest of the season.

It reinforces too many habits that Knicks want to get away from.

If we had a GOOD breakdown PG who was dependable you could let him create and open things up for MELO or someone else. This is the missing link. Jerian isn't ready but we can't rely on Jose to break down a D.

of course that is a big problem but there are many problems.

Love that they are getting further and further away from the triangle. The less they run it the better they look.

They didn't go away from the Triangle! You really don't know what you're looking at. It's clear to me that you don't understand the Triangle. Just cuz they pushed the ball and got some easier buckets doesn't mean they weren't running the Triangle.

they ran pNr almost exclusively.

So now you will say that PnR is the damn triangle.

Everything is the triangle?

The Melo/KP pick and roll at the top of the key was an actual good adjustment by Fisher. And definitely not the Triangle.

Another one who doesn't know WTF they're talking about. PnR is a play. The Triangle is an entire system. PnR, Drag Screens, Give n Go are all part of the Triangle SYSTEM. They just don't live on PnR.

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12/11/2015  1:34 AM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:Does anyone else notice that KP sets half ass screens?

yes. His screens need lots of work but also, our PG don't have a clue how to use a pick especially Gallo. No clue at all. He never leads his defender into the pick.


I agree.you know who would actually be money in screens and roll...Grant. Grant may be going through a rough patch, but if we can at least run plays that play into his speciality then it would be fantastic for the team.
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12/11/2015  1:34 AM
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Malcolm wrote:If I were Fisher . . . I wouldn't run another end of game play for Carmelo for the rest of the season.

It reinforces too many habits that Knicks want to get away from.

If we had a GOOD breakdown PG who was dependable you could let him create and open things up for MELO or someone else. This is the missing link. Jerian isn't ready but we can't rely on Jose to break down a D.

of course that is a big problem but there are many problems.

Love that they are getting further and further away from the triangle. The less they run it the better they look.

They didn't go away from the Triangle! You really don't know what you're looking at. It's clear to me that you don't understand the Triangle. Just cuz they pushed the ball and got some easier buckets doesn't mean they weren't running the Triangle.

they ran pNr almost exclusively.

So now you will say that PnR is the damn triangle.

Everything is the triangle?

The Melo/KP pick and roll at the top of the key was an actual good adjustment by Fisher. And definitely not the Triangle.

you don't know what you were watching!! that was the modified PnR triangle! Its all triangles!

I loved how Triangular that last shot was. Such clean angles.

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12/11/2015  1:35 AM
skoonix wrote:Sadly, with the way Melo suddenly sucks at the FT line, if they did call
the foul... who knows what would have happened? Ferocious comeback but typical,
not enough to win. They really seem to be playing tight & with no confidence.
They pass when they are open. I agree if Melo's knee is bothering him, rest him.
One of the strong runs we had to bring the game back within reach was with Melo on the bench.

Yet MELO takes the fukking technical?? That dude needs some help. Narcissist idiot

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/11/2015  1:35 AM
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Malcolm wrote:If I were Fisher . . . I wouldn't run another end of game play for Carmelo for the rest of the season.

It reinforces too many habits that Knicks want to get away from.

If we had a GOOD breakdown PG who was dependable you could let him create and open things up for MELO or someone else. This is the missing link. Jerian isn't ready but we can't rely on Jose to break down a D.

of course that is a big problem but there are many problems.

Love that they are getting further and further away from the triangle. The less they run it the better they look.

They didn't go away from the Triangle! You really don't know what you're looking at. It's clear to me that you don't understand the Triangle. Just cuz they pushed the ball and got some easier buckets doesn't mean they weren't running the Triangle.

they ran pNr almost exclusively.

So now you will say that PnR is the damn triangle.

Everything is the triangle?

The Melo/KP pick and roll at the top of the key was an actual good adjustment by Fisher. And definitely not the Triangle.

Another one who doesn't know WTF they're talking about. PnR is a play. The Triangle is an entire system. PnR, Drag Screens, Give n Go are all part of the Triangle SYSTEM. They just don't live on PnR.

If the PnR is part of the Triangle they should use it more so their offense sucks less.

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12/11/2015  1:36 AM
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Malcolm wrote:If I were Fisher . . . I wouldn't run another end of game play for Carmelo for the rest of the season.

It reinforces too many habits that Knicks want to get away from.

If we had a GOOD breakdown PG who was dependable you could let him create and open things up for MELO or someone else. This is the missing link. Jerian isn't ready but we can't rely on Jose to break down a D.

of course that is a big problem but there are many problems.

Love that they are getting further and further away from the triangle. The less they run it the better they look.

They didn't go away from the Triangle! You really don't know what you're looking at. It's clear to me that you don't understand the Triangle. Just cuz they pushed the ball and got some easier buckets doesn't mean they weren't running the Triangle.

they ran pNr almost exclusively.

So now you will say that PnR is the damn triangle.

Everything is the triangle?

The Melo/KP pick and roll at the top of the key was an actual good adjustment by Fisher. And definitely not the Triangle.

you don't know what you were watching!! that was the modified PnR triangle! Its all triangles!

Make jokes but you are only proving your ignorance on this subject! If you want to go into a debate on the Triangle lets make a thread were you can break it all down for us.

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12/11/2015  1:36 AM
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:Does anyone else notice that KP sets half ass screens?

yes. His screens need lots of work but also, our PG don't have a clue how to use a pick especially Gallo. No clue at all. He never leads his defender into the pick.


I agree.you know who would actually be money in screens and roll...Grant. Grant may be going through a rough patch, but if we can at least run plays that play into his speciality then it would be fantastic for the team.

don't agree there. Grant can't shoot at all so the defender would give him zero respect.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/11/2015  1:36 AM
Yeah he missed the Technical FT last night as well.
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12/11/2015  1:37 AM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:Does anyone else notice that KP sets half ass screens?

yes. His screens need lots of work but also, our PG don't have a clue how to use a pick especially Gallo. No clue at all. He never leads his defender into the pick.


I agree.you know who would actually be money in screens and roll...Grant. Grant may be going through a rough patch, but if we can at least run plays that play into his speciality then it would be fantastic for the team.

don't agree there. Grant can't shoot at all so the defender would give him zero respect.

The thing is Grant can shoot. His confidence is just gone.

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12/11/2015  1:37 AM
skoonix wrote:Yeah he missed the Technical FT last night as well.

Calderon is one of the best FT shooters of all time. The fact that Melo doesn't let him shoot it is absurd.

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12/11/2015  1:38 AM
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Malcolm wrote:If I were Fisher . . . I wouldn't run another end of game play for Carmelo for the rest of the season.

It reinforces too many habits that Knicks want to get away from.

If we had a GOOD breakdown PG who was dependable you could let him create and open things up for MELO or someone else. This is the missing link. Jerian isn't ready but we can't rely on Jose to break down a D.

of course that is a big problem but there are many problems.

Love that they are getting further and further away from the triangle. The less they run it the better they look.

They didn't go away from the Triangle! You really don't know what you're looking at. It's clear to me that you don't understand the Triangle. Just cuz they pushed the ball and got some easier buckets doesn't mean they weren't running the Triangle.

they ran pNr almost exclusively.

So now you will say that PnR is the damn triangle.

Everything is the triangle?

The Melo/KP pick and roll at the top of the key was an actual good adjustment by Fisher. And definitely not the Triangle.

you don't know what you were watching!! that was the modified PnR triangle! Its all triangles!

Make jokes but you are only proving your ignorance on this subject! If you want to go into a debate on the Triangle lets make a thread were you can break it all down for us.

you win ... don't give a sh1t about the triangle.

what I can tell you is that I was to see PnR exclusively. Anything else is stupid at this point and aint working.

Yes lets play triangle fuk-play and see what rolo can create? Please .... no more! Modern offense / Pnr pnr pnr pnr pnr

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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