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8/13/2013  1:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2013  1:59 PM
It's not a patch. It's an entire face mask. TKF will be happy.
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8/13/2013  2:00 PM
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

i don't believe the conversation would go quite the way you have written it here. maybe you are projecting?

"Maybe" is gentle

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8/13/2013  2:01 PM
jrodmc wrote:You get a patch for it, don't you?

Melo "Patches" Anthony!!!!!!

"We depending on you son!!!"

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8/13/2013  2:03 PM
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

Jrodmc: Bravo!!! Might be your finest post yet! Well done!

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8/13/2013  2:21 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

i don't believe the conversation would go quite the way you have written it here. maybe you are projecting?

"Maybe" is gentle

For the love of mindsets, can we let the man respond for himself? Doesn't the public defender's office close at 2pm each day?

I'm "projecting" that Melo would actually ask tkf for pointers? Sarcasm is lost on you people.

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8/13/2013  2:22 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:It's not a patch. It's an entire face mask. TKF will be happy.

Hopefully it covers his mindset as well.

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8/13/2013  2:24 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

i don't believe the conversation would go quite the way you have written it here. maybe you are projecting?

"Maybe" is gentle

For the love of mindsets, can we let the man respond for himself? Doesn't the public defender's office close at 2pm each day?

I'm "projecting" that Melo would actually ask tkf for pointers? Sarcasm is lost on you people.

i read it as you belittling tkf.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/13/2013  2:26 PM
I read it as fiction.........

Cuz you know, Jimmy don't carry no cash!

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8/13/2013  2:26 PM
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

i don't believe the conversation would go quite the way you have written it here. maybe you are projecting?

"Maybe" is gentle

For the love of mindsets, can we let the man respond for himself? Doesn't the public defender's office close at 2pm each day?

I'm "projecting" that Melo would actually ask tkf for pointers? Sarcasm is lost on you people.

i read it as you belittling tkf.

Please, write something better. I can't wait.

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8/13/2013  2:27 PM
Nalod wrote:I read it as fiction.........

Cuz you know, Jimmy don't carry no cash!

He certainly don't carry no ID!

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8/13/2013  2:30 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:I read it as fiction.........

Cuz you know, Jimmy don't carry no cash!

He certainly don't carry no ID!

You see the video of Melo's charity softball game with Jim Dolan playing 2nd base?

Pretty funny stuff!

Its how I know Melo will resign here next year. Jimmy don't play softball everyday, and not in Puerto Rico!!

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8/13/2013  3:03 PM
jrodmc wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

i don't believe the conversation would go quite the way you have written it here. maybe you are projecting?

"Maybe" is gentle

For the love of mindsets, can we let the man respond for himself? Doesn't the public defender's office close at 2pm each day?

I'm "projecting" that Melo would actually ask tkf for pointers? Sarcasm is lost on you people.

i read it as you belittling tkf.

Please, write something better. I can't wait.

Come on. You love to pick on and belittle TKF. Why not just admit it?

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8/13/2013  3:14 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

i don't believe the conversation would go quite the way you have written it here. maybe you are projecting?

"Maybe" is gentle

For the love of mindsets, can we let the man respond for himself? Doesn't the public defender's office close at 2pm each day?

I'm "projecting" that Melo would actually ask tkf for pointers? Sarcasm is lost on you people.

i read it as you belittling tkf.

Please, write something better. I can't wait.

Come on. You love to pick on and belittle TKF. Why not just admit it?

Mr. Prosecutor sir, I respectfully invoke my 5th amendment rights, sir...

I'm belittling a guy I just compared to Abraham Lincoln? Honestly fellas, I wasn't being sarcastic about the whole Gettysburgh Addressish thing...

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8/13/2013  3:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2013  3:22 PM
scene: a hand pushes on the horizontal bar of a gym door opens into a large gym with carmelo anthony and a gaggle of enablers who are chatting and clapping with every move melo makes, every shot he takes. on hearing the door opening melo looks up and sees tkf approaching.

melo: you must be tkf.

tkf: yup. you needed to see me?

melo (to the entourage): y'all need to clear the gym now.

His entourage files out of the gym looking suspiciously at tkf.

melo: listen, i need help.

tkf: yeah i know.

melo: i am starting to realize my time is running out and that people are catching on that i really don't care about winning. i want to change.

tkf: well yeah anyone with a pair of eyes can see that... but what makes you think i can help you at this stage of your career? and are you serious about changing?

melo: i don't really know but you seem to be the most insightful poster i have ever read and somebody said to reach out to you. yes i am serious. this friend of mine told me i could use your anger with me to my advantage by enlisting your services. he said i needed someone who would tell me the truth straight, no chaser.

tkf: well... i don't know--

melo: please i am begging you. how much would you like to be paid?

tkf: i am not greedy and i am interested in my team winning. but since you are offering, i will take 15% of what you make every game. since that's 243,000 a game, 15% is 36,000 per game. sound fair to you?

melo: not really but if you explain your fee i probably can live with that amount.

tkf: well it's the difference of what you would have earned had you waited for free agency. you would have made 15% less had you waited so i feel it is only fair that i take the 15% from you now.

melo: ok i understand. i should have realized that my greed and arrogance would have caught up with me someday. but i am a changed man.

tkf: we'll see if you're changed or not. now lets get to work on your conditioning....

melo: conditioning-- what's that?

Quick fade to black.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/13/2013  3:24 PM
dk7th wrote:scene: a hand pushes on the horizontal bar of a gym door opens into a large gym with carmelo anthony and a gaggle of enablers who are chatting and clapping with every move melo makes, every shot he takes. on hearing the door opening melo looks up and sees tkf approaching.

melo: you must be tkf.
tkf: yup. you needed to see me?
melo (to the entourage): y'all need to clear the gym now.

his entourage files out of the gym looking suspiciously at tkf.

melo: listen, i need help.
tkf: yeah i know.
melo: i am starting to realize my time is running out and that people are catching on that i really don't care about winning. i want to change.
tkf: well yeah anyone with a pair of eyes can see that... but what makes you think i can help you at this stage of your career? and are you serious about changing?
melo: i don't really know but you seem to be the most insightful poster i have ever read and somebody said to reach out to you. yes i am serious. this friend of mine told me i could use your anger with me to my advantage by enlisting your services. he said i needed someone who would tell me the truth straight, no chaser.
tkf: well... i don't know--
melo: please i am begging you. how much would you like to be paid?
tkf: i am not greedy and i am interested in my team winning. but since you are offering, i will take 15% of what you make every game. since that's 243,000 a game, 15% is 36,000 per game. sound fair to you?
melo: not really but if you explain your fee i probably can live with that amount.
tkf: well it's the difference of what you would have earned had you waited for free agency. you would have made 15% less had you waited so i feel it is only fair that i take the 15% from you now.
melo: ok i understand. i should have realized that my greed and arrogance would have caught up with me someday. but i am a changed man.
tkf: we'll see if you're changed or not. now lets get to work on your conditioning....
melo: conditioning-- what's that?

fade to black.

And they say I post delusionally. Although I do have to acknowledge the higher accounting skills...
However, and this is not sarcasm...

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dk7th wrote:scene: a hand pushes on the horizontal bar of a gym door opens into a large gym with carmelo anthony and a gaggle of enablers who are chatting and clapping with every move melo makes, every shot he takes. on hearing the door opening melo looks up and sees tkf approaching.

melo: you must be tkf.

tkf: yup. you needed to see me?

melo (to the entourage): y'all need to clear the gym now.

His entourage files out of the gym looking suspiciously at tkf.

melo: listen, i need help.

tkf: yeah i know.

melo: i am starting to realize my time is running out and that people are catching on that i really don't care about winning. i want to change.

tkf: well yeah anyone with a pair of eyes can see that... but what makes you think i can help you at this stage of your career? and are you serious about changing?

melo: i don't really know but you seem to be the most insightful poster i have ever read and somebody said to reach out to you. yes i am serious. this friend of mine told me i could use your anger with me to my advantage by enlisting your services. he said i needed someone who would tell me the truth straight, no chaser.

tkf: well... i don't know--

melo: please i am begging you. how much would you like to be paid?

tkf: i am not greedy and i am interested in my team winning. but since you are offering, i will take 15% of what you make every game. since that's 243,000 a game, 15% is 36,000 per game. sound fair to you?

melo: not really but if you explain your fee i probably can live with that amount.

tkf: well it's the difference of what you would have earned had you waited for free agency. you would have made 15% less had you waited so i feel it is only fair that i take the 15% from you now.

melo: ok i understand. i should have realized that my greed and arrogance would have caught up with me someday. but i am a changed man.

tkf: we'll see if you're changed or not. now lets get to work on your conditioning....

melo: conditioning-- what's that?

Quick fade to black.

haha, this is more like it.. good work

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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8/13/2013  3:30 PM
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

i don't believe the conversation would go quite the way you have written it here. maybe you are projecting?

exactly, I know it would not go that way...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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8/13/2013  3:32 PM
Both of you, true "Nalodian" dialog writing in the style made famous on the UK by, well, Lil ole me!!!!

As my creative juice card has dried up of late it is refreshing to see sarcasim reborn in a passive aggresive fictional dialog so well done here this after noon!

Well done! Bravo!!!

DK, Jrod.....Bravo!!!! Bravo!!!!!

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8/13/2013  3:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2013  3:47 PM


See tkf on the job

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tkf wrote:
Markji wrote:
tkf wrote:
Markji wrote:TKF - the box is too big and I have to work. Just one point....your"but trying to play the "euros are better team players card" is a bit desperate, come on now." You dismiss a very important point without any validation. I feel u should at least accept it. Because how else did the US drream teams lose to Euro teams with players from just 1 country. Some didn't even have an NBA player while we had all-stars.

Facing increased competition, the USA failed to win a medal at the 2002 FIBA World Championship, finishing sixth. The 2004 Summer Olympic team lost three games on its way to a bronze medal, a record that represented more losses in a single year than the country's Olympic teams had suffered in all previous Olympiads combined.

Determined to put an end to these failures, USA Basketball initiated a long-term project aimed at creating better, more cohesive teams. The USA won its first seven games at the 2006 FIBA World Championship in Japan before losing against Greece in the semi-finals, ending the competition with the bronze medal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_basketball_team

How the heck did we lose to Greece. How did we come in 6th in 2002? The Euro play solid basketball. They aren't as fast; not as athletic; can't jump as high; etc, but they are well coached and play a solid game of BB. This is just one point, not the main point to sway an argument; but it gives us a plus. And BTW, your comment about Kidd and Prigs last year - We played very well and better team ball when Kidd was able to play the first few months. After that he was physically finished.

You're too hyped up on "Iso" play. Every teeam has star players who take more shots than the others.

are you kidding me, are you going to use an exception to prove our point? how come we won gold in 2012? 2008? 2000? 1996? 1992? and the list goes on.. remember we started sending pro playes in what, the 90's? only when we don't send close to our best do we struggle.. the last time I remember losing gold was in 2004, and wasn't carmelo on that team? just asking.. anyway..

You're too hyped up on "Iso" play. Every teeam has star players who take more shots than the others.

actually I am not, I am hyped up against.. sure every team has star players who take more shots than others.... and usually the teams that win have star players that are efficient, so taking more of the shots is a good thing..

the problem.. we have a guy who thinks he is as star player and takes a lion share of the shots and is not that efficient at all...


OK - so to say it succinctly you don't like Melo's game when he forces his shot. He gets double-teamed a lot and should pass out of that to the open man. I get it. I agree with that.

However, we can provide Melo with a mismatch inside and then he is a better scorer. Perhaps Bargs will help spread the floor.And we have 3 point guards who can pass and run an offense. None are all-stars but all 3 are solid.

Re: US Olympic teams. - with our talent we should never have lost. It is only recently that the European players as a group, have improved talent-wise to have so many play in the NBA. But individual talent-wise, the US dominates.


I will say this, carmelo does not get double teamed that much, in the pacers series, paul george didn't have help, yet carmelo was guarded very well and did force up shots, and everytime he missed he seemed to run back holding his shoulder.. I was like, really dude? if your shoulder hurts, stop taking 30 shots?

I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..


However, we can provide Melo with a mismatch inside and then he is a better scorer. Perhaps Bargs will help spread the floor.And we have 3 point guards who can pass and run an offense. None are all-stars but all 3 are solid.

Bargnani spreading the floor is just another overrated wishful attempt to spin the trade.. we had the best 3 point shooter in the league in novak.. wasn't that his job? when the pacers took that away, when the heat took that away, then novak was considered useless... what i suspect is that the pacers, bulls and heat will also chase three point shooters off the line... yea, yea, now you are going to tell me how great bargnani is at putting the ball on the floor.. right? well really he isn't.. if he is putting the ball on the floor, then how does that help the mismatch with carmelo as you put it? do you really want barngnani dribbling? how well did that work in toronto..

in the end, we got the wrong players, plain and simple.. can't fit square pegs in round holes...

I don't care much for the personal arguing that has been going on in this tread. I do have to say what you said about Melo not being doubled much and him not getting doubled in the pacers series is wrong. Melo is doubled more times than not which is why the team show so well from the 3point line most of the year. We were getting wide open 3's from the double teams.

During the pacers series they doubled melo also. They did it differently than the way we double team people. Woody likes to run someone right at the person to double him. The pacers used the funnel melo into the double team at the rim strategy. Did he get doubled at the 3pt line? NO, but he got doubled once he drove to the hoop because that is what they wanted him to do. The pacers did not bring the cheese to the mouse they lead the mouse to the 7'2"cheese.


http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/2013/05/how-paul-george-is-containing-carmelo-anthony/

More and more teams in the NBA are buying into Tom Thibodeau’s “Swarm the Strong Side” defensive scheme. Those teams bring help defense when the ball handler is in the post or in iso situations. It’s becoming less and less common to find players who can guard one on one at an elite level. One of the main reasons that the Knicks only got off 11 three-point attempts in Game 3 was due to the fact that Paul George can defend Carmelo by himself, which means that his teammates don’t need to leave their matchups to help on Carmelo. When asked how unique it is to have a 23-year-old wing defender who can match up one-on-one with Anthony, Vogel said that “it’s incredible. It’s incredible.”

As I said, George pretty much guarded him solo.. I am sure there are points where carmelo may have been guarded by someone else and they doubled sometimes, but the pacers didn't do it often. this snippet highlights for you..

Here is the thing, even if it were true that carmelo got doubled a lot and that is why the knicks got a lot of threes,then wouldn't it have made sense to keep one of if not the best three point shooter in the league on your team in NOVAK and not trade him for a guy who shoots three at an average clip at best?

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