AnubisADL wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Actually, this may be our peak. The Pacers will carry their playoff success to cement themselves as the 2nd seed and we'll see how the East is revamped.

Again, I'm serious about giving kudos to Woody for his regular season success, but please, see how he has coached us this postseason and see his track record and tell me if you belueve he can take the team to a real championship contention?

If you do, congrats, you have more faith than me. I have lost it this postseason and with Woody's own response after games.

Mediocrity?
Thats a mid-seed in the East, possible first round out, definite second round out. If you are ok with that, then Woody is your guy. As you say, mediocrity is better than the dark ages. Still, mediocrity won't get you anywhere close to the championship.

I heard that before. So you dont think Chicago or any other team wont improve?

Paul George is the next Rudy Gay. Indiana is going to have to pay David West and Paul George. Indiana is a deep young team so they can throw bodies at you. Problem with them is just like Denver you eventually have to put up the $$$$.

David West is UFA this summer.
DJ Augustin is UFA this summer.

Tyler Hansborough is a RFA this summer

Paul George is RFA next summer.
Lance Stephenson is RFA next summer.

True about Chicago. Then Indiana slides to three.

Point is, we will be mediocre at best for a few years. If that's ok with the franchise, I guess its ok to anybody else. Let's just stop the championship nonsense.

JamesKPolk wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Woodson isnt going anywhere.

Same for the Knicks then.

Who would you replace him with that you think would do a better job with this roster? Not being confrontational but I think Woodson is underrated and got a lot out of a team that isn't that talented and has some emotionally fragile/immature guys.

Still sticking by your guy, eh? Hey, at least you're going down to the bitter end.

All of a sudden the team went from "title contender" to "untalented, immature team". A label you'd put on the Isiah teams. Keep apologizing for a coach who has an awful playoff record.

How can we be an immature team? We have all this Veteran Leadership TM.

playa2 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I agree that Woddy has been killing the knicks this series. You trying to beat the Pacers D by making it harder to spread the floor when you start Martin Then on top of that you play a zone which would help your weaker defenders/shooters but you still don't play them. Next you take Prigs out and play Smith and Kidd.

Somebody obviously is gambling , Woodson did just what the Pacers wanted us to do for us to lose. He isn't coaching for the Knicks to win and that's a fact.

Thank god we got Woody and not that jokere Damphony right playa?

NUPE wrote:

fishmike wrote:

playa2 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I agree that Woddy has been killing the knicks this series. You trying to beat the Pacers D by making it harder to spread the floor when you start Martin Then on top of that you play a zone which would help your weaker defenders/shooters but you still don't play them. Next you take Prigs out and play Smith and Kidd.

Somebody obviously is gambling , Woodson did just what the Pacers wanted us to do for us to lose. He isn't coaching for the Knicks to win and that's a fact.

Knicks were getting killed in the paint and killed on the boards. Starting Martin made perfect sense. I have no idea what you guys are on about. Woody is gambling because the Knicks cant defend the Pacers in the post. This is why REAL PLAYOFF TEAMS build their offense in the post, where you either get high % FGs or you get open shooters because the defense doubles. As opposed to the Knicks who are built around a couple of volume shooters who first plan is shoot and if they dont go in to shoot some more. Fans on this board are in denial.

Thank god we got Woody and not that jokere Damphony right playa?

Err, Mia, OKC, GS and even SA don't build their offense in the post. I don't get the "real playoff teams build offense in the post" claim. The Knicks are getting thrashed due to poor effort, bad use of personnel, terrible shooting and poor rebounding. It has nothing to do with starting offense in the post versus the perimeter. IND best offense has been the offensive rebound rather than starting offense in the post anyhow.

Hear that Fishmike ^

Playoff teams don't change what they do, they make the other team counter react to what they do.

If they guys who are supposed to put pressure on the defense aren't producing and their replacements are on the bench, then you haven't coached to win. A desperate coach wouldn't take Copeland out of the game immediately after he breaks the drought and makes a shot downtown.

One game at a time. I believe we take Game 5 at home and get right back in this series. At that point we're in the same exact situation of needing to steal one in Indy. If we can stretch this out to 7, it's anyone's call.

Not that the team has given me much cause to believe in a turn-around, but hoping JR hitting a couple late is a sign he's shed this slump like his fever.

And if we're going to play big with Melo/Martin/Tyson, for the love of god, please keep Kidd on the bench. Last night we were desperate for a bucket. Watched Prigs come in for limited minutes and drill a 3 that was waived off due to an Amar'e foul. We've only had a few guys come to play this series, and we kept one of them off the floor last night.

One of the treasured privileges of being a Knicks fan is knowing how hard everyone works to make wining a treasured thing. It wasn't just Lin making all those shots and assists last year that lead to the taste of victory, it took every other guard sacrificing his body and being forced to sit on the bench for Lin to save the day.

I'm fine with the Knicks rehiring Woodson. We really haven't been through enough hard times with Woodson to properly say goodbye.