woodson has been annihilated, spanked, schooled, punished, made roadkill in the second round.

We lose one game by 6 and It's time to panic.

Really?

misterearl wrote:We Know Drama

woodson has been annihilated, spanked, schooled, punished, made roadkill in the second round.

We lose one game by 6 and It's time to panic.

Really?

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:we lose this series woodson should be canned.

If OKC loses to Memphis, Scott Brooks should be canned

why? brooks was in the finals last year. okc won the first game;

woodson's team lost game 1 and home court. woodson has been annihilated, spanked, schooled, punished, made roadkill in the second round.

we are in the second round.

wake up

Not sure why either guy is in the conversation to be fired. Both are without what would be considered corner stone players, both are among 8 coaches left in the playoffs, both did a great job in the regular season, and one overcame a lot of adversity to win in a town where winning hasn't happened in 13 years.

woodson has had no success in the second round. none.

the second round is the real playoffs and coaching is paramount. preparation and adaptability. strategy and tactics.

my issue with woodson, if we lose, is that he has shown no foresight in terms of forging an identity and strategy and refused to discipline his best players when necessary in the 82 games of the regular season. i see phony tough love and an ingratiating approach which may work during the regular season but will come back to haunt you in the playoffs. the crucible of the playoffs reveals character.

meanwhile thibidaux just stole game 1 without three starters.

misterearl wrote:Lets Talk About Joe Torre In Atlanta While we're At it

TeamBall wrote:

misterearl wrote:We Know Drama

woodson has been annihilated, spanked, schooled, punished, made roadkill in the second round.

We lose one game by 6 and It's time to panic.

Really?

Hes more talking about his Atlanta days than yesterdays game. I agree its not time to panic also.

Anyone talking about Atlanta only needed to watch Joe Johnson.

Josh Smith?

Gimme a break with talking about Mike Woodson in Atlanta.

so you are comparing managing a collective one on one, static sport-- baseball-- with coaching basketball? yeah... no

historically woodson has coached teams who ultimately underachieved, doing passably well in the warmup season only to be destroyed in the real season. regular season and first round is the warmup season.

you need to ask yourself: who is responsible for his teams' underachieving? getting swept is always a bad sign. having the team's will and spirit broken by not keeping games close is also a bad sign. lots of blowouts on his resume.

martin wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Lets Talk About Joe Torre In Atlanta While we're At it

TeamBall wrote:

misterearl wrote:We Know Drama

woodson has been annihilated, spanked, schooled, punished, made roadkill in the second round.

We lose one game by 6 and It's time to panic.

Really?

Hes more talking about his Atlanta days than yesterdays game. I agree its not time to panic also.

Anyone talking about Atlanta only needed to watch Joe Johnson.

Josh Smith?

Gimme a break with talking about Mike Woodson in Atlanta.

so you are comparing managing a collective one on one, static sport-- baseball-- with coaching basketball? yeah... no

historically woodson has coached teams who ultimately underachieved, doing passably well in the warmup season only to be destroyed in the real season. regular season and first round is the warmup season.

you need to ask yourself: who is responsible for his teams' underachieving? getting swept is always a bad sign. having the team's will and spirit broken by not keeping games close is also a bad sign. lots of blowouts on his resume.

Their needs to be context though too, right?

What is passably well? In Atlanta, each year his teams got better. IMHO that is VERY well in the least, not passable. Here are win totals for each year: 13, 26, 30, 37, 47, 53.

Each year, his team gets beat by an NBA championship team or the team that had just been to Conference Finals. 2007-08, Boston with KG, Allen, Pierce, Rondo in their first year together, took them to 7 games which LA couldn't do; 2008-09 Orlando who won 59 games and just came off of a finals cameo; 2009-10 LeBron's Cleveland 66 game win team that went to finals.

What's wrong with this resume again?

the operative terms in the post were "swept" and "blowout." it's not THAT his teams have lost it's HOW they have lost.

misterearl wrote:Fire Coach Mike Woodson, Again?

dk7th wrote:

martin wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Lets Talk About Joe Torre In Atlanta While we're At it

TeamBall wrote:

misterearl wrote:We Know Drama

woodson has been annihilated, spanked, schooled, punished, made roadkill in the second round.

We lose one game by 6 and It's time to panic.

Really?

Hes more talking about his Atlanta days than yesterdays game. I agree its not time to panic also.

Anyone talking about Atlanta only needed to watch Joe Johnson.

Josh Smith?

Gimme a break with talking about Mike Woodson in Atlanta.

so you are comparing managing a collective one on one, static sport-- baseball-- with coaching basketball? yeah... no

historically woodson has coached teams who ultimately underachieved, doing passably well in the warmup season only to be destroyed in the real season. regular season and first round is the warmup season.

you need to ask yourself: who is responsible for his teams' underachieving? getting swept is always a bad sign. having the team's will and spirit broken by not keeping games close is also a bad sign. lots of blowouts on his resume.

Their needs to be context though too, right?

What is passably well? In Atlanta, each year his teams got better. IMHO that is VERY well in the least, not passable. Here are win totals for each year: 13, 26, 30, 37, 47, 53.

Each year, his team gets beat by an NBA championship team or the team that had just been to Conference Finals. 2007-08, Boston with KG, Allen, Pierce, Rondo in their first year together, took them to 7 games which LA couldn't do; 2008-09 Orlando who won 59 games and just came off of a finals cameo; 2009-10 LeBron's Cleveland 66 game win team that went to finals.

What's wrong with this resume again?

the operative terms in the post were "swept" and "blowout." it's not THAT his teams have lost it's HOW they have lost.

We lose to Indiana by 7 and all of a sudden it's the zombie apocalypse?

Sheesh

i don't get the cultural reference. the team was not prepared on sunday and this is the round where woodson has stumbled historically. good coaches don't suffer blowouts on their way to getting sweptand this is what has happened with woodson.

it's actually worse than just one loss because without home court our odds of getting to the ECF have dropped.

misterearl wrote:One loss is one loss

it's actually worse than just one loss because without home court our odds of getting to the ECF have dropped.

Not really. Last we checked, the Knicks were down 0-1.

If you consider that insurmountable, lets quit now and not even show up or bother to watch.

The Celtics never stopped battling down 0-3. Where were all the fans who cried for Doc Rivers firing when he first took the job?

Not insurmountable but losing home court is huge and now requires winning on their court-- not a given since the pressure will be tremendous. The Knicks have had leadership, composure, and poise issues.

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:One loss is one loss

it's actually worse than just one loss because without home court our odds of getting to the ECF have dropped.

Not really. Last we checked, the Knicks were down 0-1.

If you consider that insurmountable, lets quit now and not even show up or bother to watch.

The Celtics never stopped battling down 0-3. Where were all the fans who cried for Doc Rivers firing when he first took the job?

Not insurmountable but losing home court is huge and now requires winning on their court-- not a given since the pressure will be tremendous. The Knicks have had leadership, composure, and poise issues.

Really?

we went 54-28 and have entered the second round of the playoffs after multiple significant injuries. Our players have been resilient and just eliminated the NBA's most legendary franchise in their own arena. Does that require poise, leadership and composure or was it simply automatic luck?

amazing negative spin on a team that has made most of us proud this season.

We are one game into the second round. Sans Kurt Thomas, Stoudemire, Camby and Rasheed Wallace. Or does that matter?

Nah, lets talk about Mike Woodson and the Atlanta Hawks. Sheesh.

misterearl wrote:We Hate The Knicks

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:One loss is one loss

it's actually worse than just one loss because without home court our odds of getting to the ECF have dropped.

Not really. Last we checked, the Knicks were down 0-1.

If you consider that insurmountable, lets quit now and not even show up or bother to watch.

The Celtics never stopped battling down 0-3. Where were all the fans who cried for Doc Rivers firing when he first took the job?

Not insurmountable but losing home court is huge and now requires winning on their court-- not a given since the pressure will be tremendous. The Knicks have had leadership, composure, and poise issues.

Really?

we went 54-28 and have entered the second round of the playoffs after multiple significant injuries. Our players have been resilient and just eliminated the NBA's most legendary franchise in their own arena. Does that require poise, leadership and composure or was it simply automatic luck?

amazing negative spin on a team that has made most of us proud this season.

We are one game into the second round. Sans Kurt Thomas, Stoudemire, Camby and Rasheed Wallace. Or does that matter?

Nah, lets talk about Mike Woodson and the Atlanta Hawks. Sheesh.

that 54-28 record was enough to earn the 2nd seed which was promptly squandered thanks to lack of preparation. you think there is some sort of continuity between the regular season (including the first round of the playoffs) compared with the second round and beyond? all the knicks did was eliminate a 7th seed, a game and gritty but otherwise old and creaky team with a great coach and a couple of old warriors.

there is no continuity!

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:These guys hibernate when the Knicks win and come out of the woodwork when they lose to tell us whats wrong with the Knicks..

you mean "lurking" or "skulking" and what your saying is an untruth. i have been stating what is wrong with the knicks all season long.

nothing has changed-- they still have the same issues.

None of the guys, including yourself, who are posting the most negative Knicks commentary in the last 24 hours posted anything during any of the Knick wins against Boston except Bonn...4 games...

misterearl wrote:Worth Repeating

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:One loss is one loss

it's actually worse than just one loss because without home court our odds of getting to the ECF have dropped.

Not really. Last we checked, the Knicks were down 0-1.

If you consider that insurmountable, lets quit now and not even show up or bother to watch.

The Celtics never stopped battling down 0-3. Where were all the fans who cried for Doc Rivers firing when he first took the job?

Not insurmountable but losing home court is huge and now requires winning on their court-- not a given since the pressure will be tremendous. The Knicks have had leadership, composure, and poise issues.

Wrong.

We always answer the bell.

we went 54-28 and have entered the second round of the playoffs after multiple significant injuries. Our players have been resilient and just eliminated the NBA's most legendary franchise in their own arena. Does that require poise, leadership and composure or was it simply automatic luck?

We are the Noo Yawk Knicks

spoken like a true knick fan. rah rah siss boom bah