ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
"We Want Phil!" "We Want Phil!" RT @ArashMarkazi: Lakers coaches this season: Mike Brown: 1-4, Bernie Bickerstaff: 4-1, Mike D'Antoni: 2-3.

hmmmmmmmmmmm hahahahahahaha

Gotta be fair though. They have to give MDA some time. He is trying to put in his own system and it will take time. They do need Nash. If I were them, I would ask Houston what it would take to get Lin.

Lol Kobe would Death Stare Lin out of the NBA.

No he won't. Kobe gave him the death stare in that game because Lin played well in that game and he just forced Kobe into a TO.

He gave him the Death Stare because Lin Reggie Evan'ed him by flopping on the ground:

It's one thing to like a dude on another team. That's fine.

But this Lin thing you have is obnoxious. He didn't force anything on Kobe. Kobe had a triple double that game and torched the vaunted Houston backcourt. It was actually a bad game for Lin, he had 5 points in 31 minutes with plusminus of -20. Dude has been terrible overall with a Hollinger PER of 12.87. Felton who guys are saying is the worst PG in the league actually has a higher PER of 16.92 (this includes the atrocity in Brooklyn).

You don't have to defend the dude everytime. It's okay that he hasn't panned out. Not all our favorite players do. I rooted like heck for Nate Robinson or Channing Frye or Frank Williams or Mike Sweetney to pan out...they never did and gone on to average to mediocre NBA careers. Same thing is happening to Lin, let it go.

Really? Obnoxious? I like Lin and his game. I like the Knicks and I have posted it in several threads. I have not started any new threads on Lin. I post on threads about Lin where it is relevant. What is obnoxious about that? You however looking to disparage anything Lin is bordering on creepy.

NYKBocker wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
"We Want Phil!" "We Want Phil!" RT @ArashMarkazi: Lakers coaches this season: Mike Brown: 1-4, Bernie Bickerstaff: 4-1, Mike D'Antoni: 2-3.

hmmmmmmmmmmm hahahahahahaha

Gotta be fair though. They have to give MDA some time. He is trying to put in his own system and it will take time. They do need Nash. If I were them, I would ask Houston what it would take to get Lin.

Lol Kobe would Death Stare Lin out of the NBA.

No he won't. Kobe gave him the death stare in that game because Lin played well in that game and he just forced Kobe into a TO.

He gave him the Death Stare because Lin Reggie Evan'ed him by flopping on the ground:

It's one thing to like a dude on another team. That's fine.

But this Lin thing you have is obnoxious. He didn't force anything on Kobe. Kobe had a triple double that game and torched the vaunted Houston backcourt. It was actually a bad game for Lin, he had 5 points in 31 minutes with plusminus of -20. Dude has been terrible overall with a Hollinger PER of 12.87. Felton who guys are saying is the worst PG in the league actually has a higher PER of 16.92 (this includes the atrocity in Brooklyn).

You don't have to defend the dude everytime. It's okay that he hasn't panned out. Not all our favorite players do. I rooted like heck for Nate Robinson or Channing Frye or Frank Williams or Mike Sweetney to pan out...they never did and gone on to average to mediocre NBA careers. Same thing is happening to Lin, let it go.

Really? Obnoxious? I like Lin and his game. I like the Knicks and I have posted it in several threads. I have not started any new threads on Lin. I post on threads about Lin where it is relevant. What is obnoxious about that? You however looking to disparage anything Lin is bordering on creepy.

I should have used a better word, maybe defensive instead. Either way, I'm just pointing out the obvious. He has not played well at all this year. That said I was just pointing out he had a rough game that game against the Lakers and the play in question where he flopped. Sorry if I what say about his performances offend you.

NYKBocker wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
"We Want Phil!" "We Want Phil!" RT @ArashMarkazi: Lakers coaches this season: Mike Brown: 1-4, Bernie Bickerstaff: 4-1, Mike D'Antoni: 2-3.

hmmmmmmmmmmm hahahahahahaha

Gotta be fair though. They have to give MDA some time. He is trying to put in his own system and it will take time. They do need Nash. If I were them, I would ask Houston what it would take to get Lin.

Lol Kobe would Death Stare Lin out of the NBA.

No he won't. Kobe gave him the death stare in that game because Lin played well in that game and he just forced Kobe into a TO.

He gave him the Death Stare because Lin Reggie Evan'ed him by flopping on the ground:

It's one thing to like a dude on another team. That's fine.

But this Lin thing you have is obnoxious. He didn't force anything on Kobe. Kobe had a triple double that game and torched the vaunted Houston backcourt. It was actually a bad game for Lin, he had 5 points in 31 minutes with plusminus of -20. Dude has been terrible overall with a Hollinger PER of 12.87. Felton who guys are saying is the worst PG in the league actually has a higher PER of 16.92 (this includes the atrocity in Brooklyn).

You don't have to defend the dude everytime. It's okay that he hasn't panned out. Not all our favorite players do. I rooted like heck for Nate Robinson or Channing Frye or Frank Williams or Mike Sweetney to pan out...they never did and gone on to average to mediocre NBA careers. Same thing is happening to Lin, let it go.

Really? Obnoxious? I like Lin and his game. I like the Knicks and I have posted it in several threads. I have not started any new threads on Lin. I post on threads about Lin where it is relevant. What is obnoxious about that? You however looking to disparage anything Lin is bordering on creepy.

I should have used a better word, maybe defensive instead. Either way, I'm just pointing out the obvious. He has not played well at all this year. That said I was just pointing out he had a rough game that game against the Lakers and the play in question where he flopped. Sorry if I what say about his performances offend you.

Us disagreeing does not offend me or bother me. I like the banter and points of view from others. It would be a boring board if everybody agreed. I however did not take too kindly on the personal attack. If you say that you did not mean to attack me personally then we are cool.

I did not mean to attack you. Wrong choice of words is all.

All you have to do is compare him to Felton's, Dragic's, or Lowry's stats to see the big picture.

Numbers don't lie.

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:He's strung a couple decent games, against the Raptors and the Knicks. Other than that, he's had more poor games than good looking at his game log. At the end of the day, he's averaging 10pts and 6asts on 37 FG% and 25 3PT% with 3 Turnovers a game. He does have a good steals number and rebounds well for a point guard, but overall the numbers tell the story.

All you have to do is compare him to Felton's, Dragic's, or Lowry's stats to see the big picture.

Numbers don't lie.

no they don't lie, he is doing well other than his shooting % which is going up...all I need to know about felton is that he shot 3-19 the other night and I expect more of that.. all I need to know about lowry is that lin outplayed him last night, but lowry is having a good season. dragic has a higher usage rate... so I expect his scoring to be better..

But when it comes to assist, lin is right there, he also rebounds better than dragic and felton and has more steals....

why don't you try comparing them to the same point that Lin is in his career... the rockets signed lin not only for what he could do now, but down the road.... and by the look of things he will surpass felton for sure, and most likely dragic and lowry...

only in knick land do people love to judge using the here and now and very small samples... which is why a lot of guys have been hiding during this rough stretch.... no longer do you see the gallo taunts, the lin taunts.. I cautioned vs this type of posting as I caution you now..

So now you preach patience with Lin when he's making more money annually than Dragic, Lowry, and Felton?

The guy is not paid to be a rookie in training.

Not a very good return on investment.

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:He's strung a couple decent games, against the Raptors and the Knicks. Other than that, he's had more poor games than good looking at his game log. At the end of the day, he's averaging 10pts and 6asts on 37 FG% and 25 3PT% with 3 Turnovers a game. He does have a good steals number and rebounds well for a point guard, but overall the numbers tell the story.

All you have to do is compare him to Felton's, Dragic's, or Lowry's stats to see the big picture.

Numbers don't lie.

no they don't lie, he is doing well other than his shooting % which is going up...all I need to know about felton is that he shot 3-19 the other night and I expect more of that.. all I need to know about lowry is that lin outplayed him last night, but lowry is having a good season. dragic has a higher usage rate... so I expect his scoring to be better..

But when it comes to assist, lin is right there, he also rebounds better than dragic and felton and has more steals....

why don't you try comparing them to the same point that Lin is in his career... the rockets signed lin not only for what he could do now, but down the road.... and by the look of things he will surpass felton for sure, and most likely dragic and lowry...

only in knick land do people love to judge using the here and now and very small samples... which is why a lot of guys have been hiding during this rough stretch.... no longer do you see the gallo taunts, the lin taunts.. I cautioned vs this type of posting as I caution you now..

So now you preach patience with Lin when he's making more money annually than Dragic, Lowry, and Felton?

The guy is not paid to be a rookie in training.

Not a very good return on investment.

Morey overpaid to get Lin and his high potential. That was the only way he was getting his hands on Lin. You really have to watch Rocket games to get a better idea of what Lin is doing. Like tkf mentioned, forget the FG%, he is doing a lot of things that promotes team basketball and winning. He was in a slump and looks like it is coming back. He has been great with his assists, rebounds, steals. He is even blocking shots. If they ever start counting hockey assists, he will be up there. His defense has been pretty good. Aside from the rookie PG from Portland, he has been holding his own.

Now that's a young player to fawn over:

Not some 4 year vet you guys keep thinking is a Rookie...

Let me ask you one honest question. What's your real agenda against Lin? Is it that he's not your "traditional" NBA player? Really, is that it?

TeamBall wrote:How does KG grabbed Gerald Wallace by the neck in a fight and Wallace is the one that gets ejected?

...Wtf is up with rondo, hope he gets suspended.

thejerk wrote:

TeamBall wrote:How does KG grabbed Gerald Wallace by the neck in a fight and Wallace is the one that gets ejected?

...Wtf is up with rondo, hope he gets suspended.

That was nothing but unnecessary. It wasnt even a hard foul by Hump

nehemiah wrote:Same old story with Chuck. With twisted logic, when the numbers were overwhelming for Lin last year, you never heard him say "numbers don't lie". And last year, 26 games were too few to make a judgment. Now, 14 games and he's ready to make a pronouncement that he is a "bad return on investment". Think he has an agenda?

Let me ask you one honest question. What's your real agenda against Lin? Is it that he's not your "traditional" NBA player? Really, is that it?

What would you call it?

Would you call him a good player? I'm comparing him to the guys that he replaced and got replaced by.

Right now he's worst than Dragic, Lowry, and Felton. All guys he's getting paid more than.

Do you see him getting better as the season goes along? I don't. I could see him potentially getting slightly better next season, maybe 15 pt 7 ast on 42%. That's still worst than those 3 I just mentioned.