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jimimou
Posts: 23517 Alba Posts: 36 Lame Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 6/6/2004 Member: #681 USA |
6/24/2010 11:47 AM
oh my - 3-1 now
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jimimou
Posts: 23517 Alba Posts: 36 Lame Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 6/6/2004 Member: #681 USA |
6/24/2010 11:50 AM
my goodness 3-2 now, what a game
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PresIke
Posts: 27671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
6/24/2010 12:03 PM LAST EDITED: 6/24/2010 12:13 PM
btw, the mls is doing better nowadays with developing players, and one of the u.s.'s best players in the past, claudio reyna, is now in charge of us soccer after decades of poor management.
the problem has been partially how we develop players. there were two very good articles about this... one on espn soccernet: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5219888/ce/us/future-us-soccer?cc=5901&ver=us and one recently in the ny times about dutch club ajax's youth program (which has a history of developing stars, even though the team isn't as good as it used to be...partially due to the limits of money they have to spend): http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/magazine/06Soccer-t.html?pagewanted=all the first obstacle is that almost all amateur leagues, which is what most of american soccer is focused around, exist in what is called a "pay to play" system. basically, you have to pay thousands of dollars just to get a chance to play in this world, which is automatically going to eliminate lower income individuals who may have skills and potential. american youth sports, in general, are also mostly focused on winning rather than development, which can be an issue for a sport where american players need more skill development by those who have the training and experience to properly coach young players, because not as many young people play soccer casually with their free time or see top players consistently perform as say sports like basketball, baseball, or football. the other thing is that us youth soccer is dominated by players playing a gazillion games, rather than training, which is what the top also, there are friendlies between mls teams and big european clubs, and we also host tours of big european clubs over the summer that sell out giants stadium, etc. there is also a CONCACAF Champions League where the top clubs from north america and the caribbean region play each other... problem is CONCACAF is a weak region, in general. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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dodger78
Posts: 20904 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 6/7/2002 Member: #250 Germany |
6/25/2010 7:20 AM
bitty41 wrote:dodger78 wrote:By the way... the European "power houses" are getting their butts wiped this time... Offensivley Holland might have the best talent in quantity in the whole field of competitors I think. Guys like Snijder, van der Vaart and van Persie are crazy aaaand they couldnt even play Robben due to injury yet who is on par with the best wings of the world. But talent was never the issue for Holland... thing is they never seem to play up to expactations... |
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Silverfuel
Posts: 31750 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 6/27/2002 Member: #268 USA |
6/25/2010 8:10 AM
depending on the way the games play out today, there is a very good chance Spain v Brazil will happen in the round of 16.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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Silverfuel
Posts: 31750 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 6/27/2002 Member: #268 USA |
6/25/2010 9:20 AM
firefly, thats a cool video but you guys cant blame Green for the situation England is in. There is no way you should draw 0-0 against Algeria! Not with the talent on the national team. This is not Greens fault.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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firefly
Posts: 23224 Alba Posts: 17 Joined: 7/26/2004 Member: #721 United Kingdom |
6/25/2010 9:23 AM
Silverfuel wrote:firefly, thats a cool video but you guys cant blame Green for the situation England is in. There is no way you should draw 0-0 against Algeria! Not with the talent on the national team. This is not Greens fault. Eh, it may not all be Greens fault thats true, but if you expect him to get away scott-free after a blunder like that, you havent met the English media. They make NYK media look like kittens. The knives were out and sharpened. If we hadent gotten through to the last 16 the players might as well have stayed in SA. And Capello too. Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream things that never were and ask why not?
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