Posted by jimimou:

red sox fans really are a buncha douchebags....


Teacher and Sox Fan Tells His Student to Turn his Yankee Shirt Inside Out
By Cameron Martin
Monday, September 28, 2009 at 2:21 pm ET

Few things in this world are more pathetic than an adult subjecting children to their sports fanatacism. Take the Red Sox fan in Baldwinsville, New York, who allegedly ordered a 9-year-old student to turn his Yankees shirt inside out for the rest of the day. Is it this kid’s fault he’s a Yankees fan? No. He wasn’t even cognizant of his surroundings the last time the Yankees won the World Series (2000), so Nathan Johns’ allegiance is obviously based on his family and his unfortunate place of residence. But you can’t lay that on the kid. And you certainly can’t tell him to turn his CC Sabathia jersey inside out, even if that jersey speaks to the boy’s recently purchased loyalty.

Yet that’s what teacher Peter Addabbo allegedly did last Wednesday. And when Nathan Johns went home and told his parents? Whoa, boy. They insist the boy’s First Amendment rights were violated, and the story raised such a stink locally that the Yankees have now gotten involved and will now award Johns with some kind of loyalty reward.

Yankees Special Events, Alumni Services & Fan Services Manager, Robert Bernstein, received an article from the town paper describing what happened. Now, Nate’s expecting a gift basket from the team as a "thank you" for his loyalty.

Bernstein wouldn’t say what’s in the basket; he says the Yankees want to keep that a surprise.

Meanwhile, the school is investigating the complaint, Superintendent Jeanne Dangle said. She told reporters she’s still collecting the facts, and will contact the parents once she’s talked to the other students and the instructor at the center of the controversy. (WPIX.com)

Maybe the teacher was kidding. (Likely). Maybe it doesn’t matter. (Definitely). You don’t bring the stupidity of the Red Sox-Yankees rivalry into the classroom, teacher. You wait for a student who’s a Red Sox fan to start a fight with this Yankee fan, then you wait till the Sox fan gets in a few good shots before breaking it up. Seriously, I should be a teacher.

The Yankees should get all the kids Yankee Jerseys to wear in class!

Then they should handcuff the teacher and let little Nathon "Aldo" Johns carve the Yankee "NY" on the mofo's farhead!

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by TMS:

i said it before & i'll say it again, Joba belongs in the bullpen... as a reliever he is absolutely dominant... as a starter he's just sorta average... the numbers below point out this fact clearly... also, the difference in his demeanor on the mound when he's coming in as a reliever is starkly different to the way he pitches when he's starting games IMO... nevermind the clear difference you see in his fastball velocity, which increases to the 97-98 mph range in his 1-2 inning stints out of the pen as opposed to his 93-94 mph fastballs as a starter which are clearly more hittable & not thrown with as much conviction.

Joba's career #'s

as a starter:
43 games
12W - 7L
4.18 ERA
8.4 K/9
.266 OPP AVG.

as a reliever:
50 games
3W - 2L
1.50 ERA
11.9 K/9
.182 OPP AVG.

personally i'd rather have this guy positively affecting 60 games a year in a relief role while putting up dominant #'s like this than to have him putting up non-spectacular #'s as a starter for our team... i've heard all the arguments in support of molding Joba into a starting pitcher & yeah i know he came up as a starter in the minors... but there's no arguing the fact that Joba's been a much, much more effective reliever than he's been a starting pitcher.

Thank you good sir.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by TMS:

i said it before & i'll say it again, Joba belongs in the bullpen... as a reliever he is absolutely dominant... as a starter he's just sorta average... the numbers below point out this fact clearly... also, the difference in his demeanor on the mound when he's coming in as a reliever is starkly different to the way he pitches when he's starting games IMO... nevermind the clear difference you see in his fastball velocity, which increases to the 97-98 mph range in his 1-2 inning stints out of the pen as opposed to his 93-94 mph fastballs as a starter which are clearly more hittable & not thrown with as much conviction.

Joba's career #'s

as a starter:
43 games
12W - 7L
4.18 ERA
8.4 K/9
.266 OPP AVG.

as a reliever:
50 games
3W - 2L
1.50 ERA
11.9 K/9
.182 OPP AVG.

personally i'd rather have this guy positively affecting 60 games a year in a relief role while putting up dominant #'s like this than to have him putting up non-spectacular #'s as a starter for our team... i've heard all the arguments in support of molding Joba into a starting pitcher & yeah i know he came up as a starter in the minors... but there's no arguing the fact that Joba's been a much, much more effective reliever than he's been a starting pitcher.

Thank you good sir.

team has won 103 games w/o joba in the pen. until they start losing games in the postseason b/c of joba starting, why not give him every chance to develop there? he may never be a 1 or 2 level starter but even if he's a 3 or 4 level guy, i would rather he start than relieve right now. and why is there no "hughes to the pen" talk? why is it always about joba?

joba in the pen in the alds and in the alcs if we get there - that i agree with. but for next season...he's in the starting rotation.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by VDesai:

Its a small major league sample size, and ace starters have come out of far worse numbers. Its easier to pitch in one inning spurs. Also his minor league dominance portends he will eventually have success in the majors. But for now, we need him in the bullpen for the first round.

On another note, A-Rod needs 2 hrs and 7 RBI to get 30/100 for a record 13th time, and he does it ONE INNING. How amazing is that guy....

arod is awesome...always been a fan of his.

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by VDesai:

Its a small major league sample size, and ace starters have come out of far worse numbers. Its easier to pitch in one inning spurs. Also his minor league dominance portends he will eventually have success in the majors. But for now, we need him in the bullpen for the first round.

On another note, A-Rod needs 2 hrs and 7 RBI to get 30/100 for a record 13th time, and he does it ONE INNING. How amazing is that guy....

arod is awesome...always been a fan of his.

The only Yankees jersey I ever bought was ARod's, but that had more to do with the fact that there were a lot of Sox fans at my college and I wanted to rub it in that he got traded to my team.

Turns out the surgery was the best thing that could happen... the guy is so great he puts such high expectations on himself. He's basically admitted that because of the injury this is the first season as a Yank he had no expectations, meaning there's no internal pressure. I think he finally has a big postseason this year because he's not expecting to hit .400 with an RBI each game

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by nyk4ever:

[quote]Posted by TMS:

i said it before & i'll say it again, Joba belongs in the bullpen... as a reliever he is absolutely dominant... as a starter he's just sorta average... the numbers below point out this fact clearly... also, the difference in his demeanor on the mound when he's coming in as a reliever is starkly different to the way he pitches when he's starting games IMO... nevermind the clear difference you see in his fastball velocity, which increases to the 97-98 mph range in his 1-2 inning stints out of the pen as opposed to his 93-94 mph fastballs as a starter which are clearly more hittable & not thrown with as much conviction.

Joba's career #'s

as a starter:
43 games
12W - 7L
4.18 ERA
8.4 K/9
.266 OPP AVG.

as a reliever:
50 games
3W - 2L
1.50 ERA
11.9 K/9
.182 OPP AVG.

personally i'd rather have this guy positively affecting 60 games a year in a relief role while putting up dominant #'s like this than to have him putting up non-spectacular #'s as a starter for our team... i've heard all the arguments in support of molding Joba into a starting pitcher & yeah i know he came up as a starter in the minors... but there's no arguing the fact that Joba's been a much, much more effective reliever than he's been a starting pitcher.

Thank you good sir.

team has won 103 games w/o joba in the pen. until they start losing games in the postseason b/c of joba starting, why not give him every chance to develop there? he may never be a 1 or 2 level starter but even if he's a 3 or 4 level guy, i would rather he start than relieve right now. and why is there no "hughes to the pen" talk? why is it always about joba?

joba in the pen in the alds and in the alcs if we get there - that i agree with. but for next season...he's in the starting rotation.

Posted by VDesai:

Joba on the postseason roster instead of Bruney