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CrushAlot
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5/3/2013  7:04 AM
George Karl has gotten out of the first round in Denver once in 8 trips to the playoffs. He also lost in the first round twice in Seatle when he had Kemp and Payton and his team was winning close to 60 games every year.
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5/3/2013  7:05 AM
Kudo's to GSW who appeared to play up to the occasion!

Bogut thrived and showed us why he was the no. overall pick and Steph curry who has been riddled by injury most of his career is healthy and also stepped his game up.

Some players step up into the spotlight of the pressure and PERFORM! Im sure Denver is very disappointed but GSW showed its DNA and what they have been building for. Their lineup is nasty.

When you win 57 games it brings expectations. Knuggs did not live up to it.

On the other hand who thought they'd win 57 games?

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5/3/2013  7:06 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:Denver loses the series just like I said, you don't win in the 2nd season with 2nd and 3rd fiddle players and a coach who should retire and take care of his health.His assistants do most of the coaching from what KARL SAID IN A INTERVIEW.

DENVER doesn't have IT, they are just a regular season team who entertains with the best of them. Not really a secret to those who knows playoff basketball.

With the Nuggets again eliminated in the first round of the playoffs again, should George Karl be Denver's coach next season?


Asked after the game what the younger players might have learned from this series, veteran Nuggets guard Andre Miller said: "Nothing, nothing. We got outplayed, we got out coached, out-toughed."

Nuggicks fans say sompin.


I'm not a Nuggets fan but it's not clear we would have beaten GSW either. We're looking mediocre against a much lighter opponent.

are they, Boston seems the better defensive team. You right about it not being clear though. It's never clear until they play
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5/3/2013  7:08 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:Denver loses the series just like I said, you don't win in the 2nd season with 2nd and 3rd fiddle players and a coach who should retire and take care of his health.His assistants do most of the coaching from what KARL SAID IN A INTERVIEW.

DENVER doesn't have IT, they are just a regular season team who entertains with the best of them. Not really a secret to those who knows playoff basketball.

With the Nuggets again eliminated in the first round of the playoffs again, should George Karl be Denver's coach next season?


Asked after the game what the younger players might have learned from this series, veteran Nuggets guard Andre Miller said: "Nothing, nothing. We got outplayed, we got out coached, out-toughed."

Nuggicks fans say sompin.


I'm not a Nuggets fan but it's not clear we would have beaten GSW either. We're looking mediocre against a much lighter opponent.

are they, Boston seems the better defensive team. You right about it not being clear though. It's never clear until they play

They're almost a 50 win team in the west. Boston is a .500 team in the east that would have been 10th seed at best in the west.
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5/3/2013  7:19 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:Denver loses the series just like I said, you don't win in the 2nd season with 2nd and 3rd fiddle players and a coach who should retire and take care of his health.His assistants do most of the coaching from what KARL SAID IN A INTERVIEW.

DENVER doesn't have IT, they are just a regular season team who entertains with the best of them. Not really a secret to those who knows playoff basketball.

With the Nuggets again eliminated in the first round of the playoffs again, should George Karl be Denver's coach next season?


Asked after the game what the younger players might have learned from this series, veteran Nuggets guard Andre Miller said: "Nothing, nothing. We got outplayed, we got out coached, out-toughed."

Nuggicks fans say sompin.


I'm not a Nuggets fan but it's not clear we would have beaten GSW either. We're looking mediocre against a much lighter opponent.

are they, Boston seems the better defensive team. You right about it not being clear though. It's never clear until they play

They're almost a 50 win team in the west. Boston is a .500 team in the east that would have been 10th seed at best in the west.

what did all those western Ws get Denver? it's not always how you get there it's what you do when you get there.

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5/3/2013  7:22 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:Denver loses the series just like I said, you don't win in the 2nd season with 2nd and 3rd fiddle players and a coach who should retire and take care of his health.His assistants do most of the coaching from what KARL SAID IN A INTERVIEW.

DENVER doesn't have IT, they are just a regular season team who entertains with the best of them. Not really a secret to those who knows playoff basketball.

With the Nuggets again eliminated in the first round of the playoffs again, should George Karl be Denver's coach next season?


Asked after the game what the younger players might have learned from this series, veteran Nuggets guard Andre Miller said: "Nothing, nothing. We got outplayed, we got out coached, out-toughed."

Nuggicks fans say sompin.


I'm not a Nuggets fan but it's not clear we would have beaten GSW either. We're looking mediocre against a much lighter opponent.

are they, Boston seems the better defensive team. You right about it not being clear though. It's never clear until they play

They're almost a 50 win team in the west. Boston is a .500 team in the east that would have been 10th seed at best in the west.

what did all those western Ws get Denver? it's not always how you get there it's what you do when you get there.


You'll always find an exception - it doesn't mean regular season record is unimportant. Look at how rare it is for the team with the worse seed to advance.
Either way, that doesn't change what I said - Boston would just be watching now if they were in the west.
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5/3/2013  7:32 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:Denver loses the series just like I said, you don't win in the 2nd season with 2nd and 3rd fiddle players and a coach who should retire and take care of his health.His assistants do most of the coaching from what KARL SAID IN A INTERVIEW.

DENVER doesn't have IT, they are just a regular season team who entertains with the best of them. Not really a secret to those who knows playoff basketball.

With the Nuggets again eliminated in the first round of the playoffs again, should George Karl be Denver's coach next season?


Asked after the game what the younger players might have learned from this series, veteran Nuggets guard Andre Miller said: "Nothing, nothing. We got outplayed, we got out coached, out-toughed."

Nuggicks fans say sompin.


I'm not a Nuggets fan but it's not clear we would have beaten GSW either. We're looking mediocre against a much lighter opponent.

are they, Boston seems the better defensive team. You right about it not being clear though. It's never clear until they play

They're almost a 50 win team in the west. Boston is a .500 team in the east that would have been 10th seed at best in the west.

what did all those western Ws get Denver? it's not always how you get there it's what you do when you get there.


You'll always find an exception - it doesn't mean regular season record is unimportant. Look at how rare it is for the team with the worse seed to advance.
Either way, that doesn't change what I said - Boston would just be watching now if they were in the west.

if they were in the west they would have had a different schedule and different game plans. Who knows what they would be like.

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5/3/2013  7:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/3/2013  7:41 AM
That's a pretty desperate argument IMO. Boston won only 19 of their 42 games against over .500 teams and were only a .500 team in the east. They're old, slow dinosaurs. No way they make it in the west. It would be a miracle if they actually improved their W-L record out west to 45-37.
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5/3/2013  8:08 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/3/2013  8:09 AM
Love how Bonn creatively shifted the Denver came to fruition meltdown, to Boston playing in the west.LOL

Ohh I just have to go against play2, because I'm not a Nuggicks fan.

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5/3/2013  9:46 AM
If PJ gets to the second round I'm guessing his job is safe unless Prokhorov can convince Phil Jackson to come to Brooklyn. If the Bulls make it to the second round and Rose doesn't play he should stay clear of the shootarounds. Feels almost like taunting for Rose to show up and go on a dunking exhibition before games.

I'm very impressed with the Job Mark Jackson has done at GS. Didn't believe he would be this successful this soon. You don't become number 3 on the all time assists list without having a high bball IQ, but I didn't know he would turn out to be be such a great motivator. Someone on TV mentioned his background as a preacher, I think they're on to something.

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5/3/2013  11:17 AM
CrushAlot wrote:George Karl has gotten out of the first round in Denver once in 8 trips to the playoffs. He also lost in the first round twice in Seatle when he had Kemp and Payton and his team was winning close to 60 games every year.

At the same time he's taken 3 different teams to a CF and 1 team to a Finals. Not many coaches can say they've done this.

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5/3/2013  11:22 AM
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:George Karl has gotten out of the first round in Denver once in 8 trips to the playoffs. He also lost in the first round twice in Seatle when he had Kemp and Payton and his team was winning close to 60 games every year.

At the same time he's taken 3 different teams to a CF and 1 team to a Finals. Not many coaches can say they've done this.

How do you propose Denver get better?

- Igoudala is opting out.

- Gallinari wont be back until probably January and likely wont be playing at a very high level.

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5/3/2013  11:26 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:That's a pretty desperate argument IMO. Boston won only 19 of their 42 games against over .500 teams and were only a .500 team in the east. They're old, slow dinosaurs. No way they make it in the west. It would be a miracle if they actually improved their W-L record out west to 45-37.

That may be true, but I expected more from you. We all know despite how Boston plays in the regular season they are a playoff team. That's the only thing that matters to most veterans. All the mistakes and lack of defense that GS exhibited will not be tolerated in Boston. So you can call them old, and slow but for how many years have people been saying this? Some fans were very delusional to think we would sweep these guys, they don't give up. Always had this series going 6-7 games.

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5/3/2013  11:40 AM
Hopefully the Hawks even up their series- we need that one to go on as long as possible. For all the hype Paul George has gotten this year, he seems to play much, much worse in away games.
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5/3/2013  11:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/3/2013  11:48 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:George Karl has gotten out of the first round in Denver once in 8 trips to the playoffs. He also lost in the first round twice in Seatle when he had Kemp and Payton and his team was winning close to 60 games every year.

At the same time he's taken 3 different teams to a CF and 1 team to a Finals. Not many coaches can say they've done this.

How do you propose Denver get better?

- Igoudala is opting out.

- Gallinari wont be back until probably January and likely wont be playing at a very high level.

They need an Eric Gordon or O.J. Mayo or Tony Allen type player. They have resources (our assets alone) and financials to get those type of players. They also need Faried and McGee(still very young not close to prime) to develop into what they should be. That's how close they are.


It's amazing what Draymond Greens and Harrison Barnes can do for a team....

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5/3/2013  11:55 AM
3G4G wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:George Karl has gotten out of the first round in Denver once in 8 trips to the playoffs. He also lost in the first round twice in Seatle when he had Kemp and Payton and his team was winning close to 60 games every year.

At the same time he's taken 3 different teams to a CF and 1 team to a Finals. Not many coaches can say they've done this.

How do you propose Denver get better?

- Igoudala is opting out.

- Gallinari wont be back until probably January and likely wont be playing at a very high level.

They need an Eric Gordon or O.J. Mayo or Tony Allen type player. They have resources (our assets alone) and financials to get those type of players. They also need Faried and McGee(still very young not close to prime) to develop into what they should be. That's how close they are.


It's amazing what Draymond Greens and Harrison Barnes can do for a team....

Exactly.. denver will be fine... the key is they have the resources to improve that team.... GS is another good young team and I expect they will battle for years to come... that is exciting from a basketball fan perspective..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/3/2013  12:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/3/2013  12:03 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:Denver loses the series just like I said, you don't win in the 2nd season with 2nd and 3rd fiddle players and a coach who should retire and take care of his health.His assistants do most of the coaching from what KARL SAID IN A INTERVIEW.

DENVER doesn't have IT, they are just a regular season team who entertains with the best of them. Not really a secret to those who knows playoff basketball.

With the Nuggets again eliminated in the first round of the playoffs again, should George Karl be Denver's coach next season?


Asked after the game what the younger players might have learned from this series, veteran Nuggets guard Andre Miller said: "Nothing, nothing. We got outplayed, we got out coached, out-toughed."

Nuggicks fans say sompin.


I'm not a Nuggets fan but it's not clear we would have beaten GSW either. We're looking mediocre against a much lighter opponent.

are they, Boston seems the better defensive team. You right about it not being clear though. It's never clear until they play

They're almost a 50 win team in the west. Boston is a .500 team in the east that would have been 10th seed at best in the west.

what did all those western Ws get Denver? it's not always how you get there it's what you do when you get there.


You'll always find an exception - it doesn't mean regular season record is unimportant. Look at how rare it is for the team with the worse seed to advance.
Either way, that doesn't change what I said - Boston would just be watching now if they were in the west.

what all of those wins will do for Denver is create a culture of winning.. plain and simple.. you develop a culture of winning, year after year, you set yourself up to be in line to win a championship... Denver is young, they have assets and a good coach, next year, their goal should be 60 games... And to correct the problems they had in the playoffs this year,and to be healthy of course.. developing a winner is a process, just can't throw a bunch of stuff in a pot and call yourself a winner.. doesn't work that way....

And you are correct bonn, in the west boston would be home watching...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/3/2013  12:04 PM
3G4G wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:George Karl has gotten out of the first round in Denver once in 8 trips to the playoffs. He also lost in the first round twice in Seatle when he had Kemp and Payton and his team was winning close to 60 games every year.

At the same time he's taken 3 different teams to a CF and 1 team to a Finals. Not many coaches can say they've done this.

How do you propose Denver get better?

- Igoudala is opting out.

- Gallinari wont be back until probably January and likely wont be playing at a very high level.

They need an Eric Gordon or O.J. Mayo or Tony Allen type player. They have resources (our assets alone) and financials to get those type of players. They also need Faried and McGee(still very young not close to prime) to develop into what they should be. That's how close they are.


It's amazing what Draymond Greens and Harrison Barnes can do for a team....

Eric Gordon makes the MAX. OJ Mayo wants to be paid. Eric Gordon also has bad knees. They aren't getting either player without ponying up real assets not spare parts.

McGee is who he is. There is reason he was a fool in Washington. He is the same fool just now his minutes are limited. Waiting on Javale McGee to turn the corner is a fools errand.

Denver is going to have to spend or trade assets to get better like every other team.

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5/3/2013  12:06 PM
Denver is the new Portland, on the rise with all their "young" talent.
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5/3/2013  12:08 PM
holfresh wrote:
3G4G wrote:Great Series congrats to Golden State...


Denver should be proud though, they fought hard and never gave up. They'll be back I ain't even mad. The only thing disappointing is not watching another game by these two teams.

Denver should be proud??..Hahahah..alternate universe???..Denver was picked by some alnalysis as the third likely team to win it all...Karl gets a pass again ...MDA gets a pass..If Woody and the Knicks don't make it to the ECF, there will be hell to pay...

denver exceeded expectations from the start of the year.. the knicks are a win now or fold tent team.. no matter how much you want to clown denver.. they are young and only getting better... if the knicks don't win this year.. it will be time to take an enema to this team.. plain and simple.. can't deflect.. knicks made this trade for now... this is not a long term team, which is why teams like Denver and GS and other young good teams will get more rope.. plain and simple...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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