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BigDaddyG
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5/31/2022  3:41 PM
Had a decent shot at the 1st Round.
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5/31/2022  6:57 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Had a decent shot at the 1st Round.

Draft next year is rumored to be stacked. What the hell is he doing?

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KnickDanger wrote:
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KnickDanger wrote:The Knicks pick we may be sleeping on is TyTy. Kentucky connection with Calipari endorsement and he’s a PG. From what I read his play and stock suffered from an ankle injury. Also he was made to play off the ball more. I have no idea of course, but we all want a PG.

Agree and we have very deep connections at Kentucky and they always put out good guards.

If we don't trade up and pick up an extra pick (which I think we really might do), at #11, roughly in order, I like:

Johny Davis
Tari Eason
Malaki Branham
Jeremy Sochan
Ty Ty Washington
Ochai Agbagi


I'd add Dyson Daniels to that list and I think one of those players is our pick barring moves.

I love the guy, but didn't include him cause he looks like a lock for the top 7 or so, as is Mathurin.
Regardless of who we take, I hope they are (or develop into) a two way player.
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6/1/2022  8:38 AM
Don't know if it'll succeed but I think this is going to happen, Knicks going after #4 pick

Jonathan Givony was on an ESPN draft video on YouTube that was just released soon to be an hour ago, and at the end of the video there was a segment called One Bold Prediction, and his was the Knicks trading up to the #4 pick to draft Jaden Ivey.
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6/1/2022  8:41 AM
martin wrote:Don't know if it'll succeed but I think this is going to happen, Knicks going after #4 pick

Jonathan Givony was on an ESPN draft video on YouTube that was just released soon to be an hour ago, and at the end of the video there was a segment called One Bold Prediction, and his was the Knicks trading up to the #4 pick to draft Jaden Ivey.

That is Sac pick. What is their cap space and was there any thoughts shared to how that might work?
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6/1/2022  8:47 AM
martin wrote:Don't know if it'll succeed but I think this is going to happen, Knicks going after #4 pick

Jonathan Givony was on an ESPN draft video on YouTube that was just released soon to be an hour ago, and at the end of the video there was a segment called One Bold Prediction, and his was the Knicks trading up to the #4 pick to draft Jaden Ivey.

Sacramento has been as dumb as us historically so there is always a slight chance they do something like this but I highly doubt it unless it includes RJ.
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6/1/2022  8:51 AM
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martin wrote:Don't know if it'll succeed but I think this is going to happen, Knicks going after #4 pick

Jonathan Givony was on an ESPN draft video on YouTube that was just released soon to be an hour ago, and at the end of the video there was a segment called One Bold Prediction, and his was the Knicks trading up to the #4 pick to draft Jaden Ivey.

That is Sac pick. What is their cap space and was there any thoughts shared to how that might work?

I didn't see the video so I can't add anything. I scraped the quote from RealGM, should have started with that.

I think it starts with the fact that Sac has said they want to win now, get into playoffs. The big understanding here was that the pick wouldn't add a player who met that timeline.

Harrison Barnes will be on an expiring $18M contract for next year.

No clue what they think of Randle and how he would fit with Sabonis. They have Fox and Davion. They have Sabonis.

I am assuming Scott Perry connections to Sac will be prominent.

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6/1/2022  9:05 AM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:Don't know if it'll succeed but I think this is going to happen, Knicks going after #4 pick

Jonathan Givony was on an ESPN draft video on YouTube that was just released soon to be an hour ago, and at the end of the video there was a segment called One Bold Prediction, and his was the Knicks trading up to the #4 pick to draft Jaden Ivey.

That is Sac pick. What is their cap space and was there any thoughts shared to how that might work?

I didn't see the video so I can't add anything. I scraped the quote from RealGM, should have started with that.

I think it starts with the fact that Sac has said they want to win now, get into playoffs. The big understanding here was that the pick wouldn't add a player who met that timeline.

Harrison Barnes will be on an expiring $18M contract for next year.

No clue what they think of Randle and how he would fit with Sabonis. They have Fox and Davion. They have Sabonis.

I am assuming Scott Perry connections to Sac will be prominent.

There are too many teams out there who can provide better offers and I can't see Randle being that desirable after the Sabonis trade. Another team would have to get involved...I just can't see happening. Appreciate Rose and co. for trying tho.

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6/1/2022  9:12 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:Don't know if it'll succeed but I think this is going to happen, Knicks going after #4 pick

Jonathan Givony was on an ESPN draft video on YouTube that was just released soon to be an hour ago, and at the end of the video there was a segment called One Bold Prediction, and his was the Knicks trading up to the #4 pick to draft Jaden Ivey.

That is Sac pick. What is their cap space and was there any thoughts shared to how that might work?

I didn't see the video so I can't add anything. I scraped the quote from RealGM, should have started with that.

I think it starts with the fact that Sac has said they want to win now, get into playoffs. The big understanding here was that the pick wouldn't add a player who met that timeline.

Harrison Barnes will be on an expiring $18M contract for next year.

No clue what they think of Randle and how he would fit with Sabonis. They have Fox and Davion. They have Sabonis.

I am assuming Scott Perry connections to Sac will be prominent.

There are too many teams out there who can provide better offers and I can't see Randle being that desirable after the Sabonis trade. Another team would have to get involved...I just can't see happening. Appreciate Rose and co. for trying tho.

I think it'll at least be a 3 team deal, we shall see how All In the Knicks will be to get that #4 pick. Definitely shooting for the moon situation.

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6/1/2022  4:40 PM
Not sure what perry "connections" still there with new front office. Vlade is gone. "Win now". 4th pick? Im not that high on Ivy at 4 and certainly can't say JR for him straight up is solid. But if your tainted on JR, then I suppose he is quick fodder. JR and the 11 for Ivy is logical? Or Obi and the 11 for the 4th IF one thinks OBI is ready to run with SAC and you can get a good player at the 11.
Most of us have lost objectivity for deals and true value is.
We keep talking about Ivy and we start to get comfortable with it in mass.

I'll predict that one or two yoots get moved in some deal and some of us won't be happy.
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6/1/2022  5:17 PM
Who predicted the Cam deal? The draft night shuffling that resulted in Grimes, McBride, and Sims? For better or worse the sign and trade with the Celtics that brought Fournier to New York? Etc. Etc. Almost all predictions are total BS whether from fans or "experts." The real deals come out of nowhere most of the time.
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6/1/2022  8:28 PM
TPercy wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Had a decent shot at the 1st Round.

Draft next year is rumored to be stacked. What the hell is he doing?

Trying to get an education?
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SergioNYK wrote:I'm not feeling Daniels at all. Reminds me too much of Ntilikina. I think I'll forever be against tall, slow, unathletic guards who can't shoot.

We are destined to draft another overrated wing prospect at 11 who will shoot 30% from 3
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Philc1 wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:I'm not feeling Daniels at all. Reminds me too much of Ntilikina. I think I'll forever be against tall, slow, unathletic guards who can't shoot.

We are destined to draft another overrated wing prospect at 11 who will shoot 30% from 3

I don’t know if 6’5” qualifies as “wing” but last year we drafted one at 25 who shot 38% from 3 as a rook and played a hell of a good defense
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6/2/2022  8:05 AM
Jonathan Wasserman and his updated mock draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956515-updated-2022-nba-mock-draft-why-teams-are-nervous-about-chet-holmgren

6. Indiana Pacers: AJ Griffin (Duke, SF, Freshman)

7. Portland Trail Blazers: Bennedict Mathurin (Arizona, SG/SF, Sophomore)

8. New Orleans Pelicans (via Lakers): Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite, PG/SG, 2003)

9. San Antonio Spurs: Johnny Davis (Wisconsin, SG, Sophomore)

10. Washington Wizards: Shaedon Sharpe (Kentucky, SG, Freshman)

11. New York Knicks: Malaki Branham (Ohio State, SG, Freshman)

12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Clippers): Jalen Duren (Memphis, C, Freshman)

13. Charlotte Hornets: Jeremy Sochan (Baylor, PF, Freshman)

14. Cleveland Cavaliers: Ochai Agbaji (Kansas, SG/SF, Senior)

Daniels surging into top-8 mix

Teams are under the impression that the Daniels buzz is real. His draft ceiling has been said to have risen into the Nos. 4-8 range after he measured like a wing (6'7½" in shoes), recorded the combine's fastest shuttle run, put on a convincing shooting clinic at his pro day and impressed in interviews. The fact that he's so versatile and interchangeable between positions 1-4 also eliminates fit concerns with most teams.

Branham's draft range now looking like Nos. 8-14

Daniels' name is hotter, but Branham's is also trending. Not everyone is convinced, but there is still a lot of interest in the freshman who's a year younger than Johnny Davis, measured longer and was more efficient from three, the mid-range and at the rim. Teams think that he can go as high as No. 8 and that he's a better bet to go in the lottery than be on the board at No. 15.

Teams watching old film of Shaedon Sharpe

The Pistons and others are going back to the AAU tape of Sharpe, who didn't play a minute this season. He looked good at his pro day, but teams acknowledge that his athleticism and shot-making were made for the one-on-none workout, and his agency did a good job of putting Sharpe in position to showcase his strengths. Talent alone right now has him in the mix for lottery teams, including Detroit at No. 5. However, despite an enticing mix of bounce and shooting skills, the film shows a player who struggles to create going north-south and relies heavily on low-percentage dribble jumpers. Limited confidence in Sharpe's feel or ability to make teammates better could lead to teams feeling more comfortable with prospects like Murray, Griffin, Davis and Mathurin.

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6/2/2022  8:15 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2022  8:18 AM
martin wrote:Jonathan Wasserman and his updated mock draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956515-updated-2022-nba-mock-draft-why-teams-are-nervous-about-chet-holmgren

6. Indiana Pacers: AJ Griffin (Duke, SF, Freshman)

7. Portland Trail Blazers: Bennedict Mathurin (Arizona, SG/SF, Sophomore)

8. New Orleans Pelicans (via Lakers): Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite, PG/SG, 2003)

9. San Antonio Spurs: Johnny Davis (Wisconsin, SG, Sophomore)

10. Washington Wizards: Shaedon Sharpe (Kentucky, SG, Freshman)

11. New York Knicks: Malaki Branham (Ohio State, SG, Freshman)

12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Clippers): Jalen Duren (Memphis, C, Freshman)

13. Charlotte Hornets: Jeremy Sochan (Baylor, PF, Freshman)

14. Cleveland Cavaliers: Ochai Agbaji (Kansas, SG/SF, Senior)

Daniels surging into top-8 mix

Teams are under the impression that the Daniels buzz is real. His draft ceiling has been said to have risen into the Nos. 4-8 range after he measured like a wing (6'7½" in shoes), recorded the combine's fastest shuttle run, put on a convincing shooting clinic at his pro day and impressed in interviews. The fact that he's so versatile and interchangeable between positions 1-4 also eliminates fit concerns with most teams.

Branham's draft range now looking like Nos. 8-14

Daniels' name is hotter, but Branham's is also trending. Not everyone is convinced, but there is still a lot of interest in the freshman who's a year younger than Johnny Davis, measured longer and was more efficient from three, the mid-range and at the rim. Teams think that he can go as high as No. 8 and that he's a better bet to go in the lottery than be on the board at No. 15.

Teams watching old film of Shaedon Sharpe

The Pistons and others are going back to the AAU tape of Sharpe, who didn't play a minute this season. He looked good at his pro day, but teams acknowledge that his athleticism and shot-making were made for the one-on-none workout, and his agency did a good job of putting Sharpe in position to showcase his strengths. Talent alone right now has him in the mix for lottery teams, including Detroit at No. 5. However, despite an enticing mix of bounce and shooting skills, the film shows a player who struggles to create going north-south and relies heavily on low-percentage dribble jumpers. Limited confidence in Sharpe's feel or ability to make teammates better could lead to teams feeling more comfortable with prospects like Murray, Griffin, Davis and Mathurin.

Cool. I'm starting to warm up to Malaki too. It'd be nice to have one more player who knows how to manipulate a PnR and can shoot. I know the Knicks already have Grimes and they probably need stouter defense in the wings. But Branham may be the best prospect left at 22. Still leaning more toward Eason or Sochon tho. Wow, also noticed he dropped Sharpe to the Wizards. Might give an indication on where they stand on Beak's looming extension if they made that move.

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6/2/2022  8:31 AM
martin wrote:Jonathan Wasserman and his updated mock draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956515-updated-2022-nba-mock-draft-why-teams-are-nervous-about-chet-holmgren

6. Indiana Pacers: AJ Griffin (Duke, SF, Freshman)

7. Portland Trail Blazers: Bennedict Mathurin (Arizona, SG/SF, Sophomore)

8. New Orleans Pelicans (via Lakers): Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite, PG/SG, 2003)

9. San Antonio Spurs: Johnny Davis (Wisconsin, SG, Sophomore)

10. Washington Wizards: Shaedon Sharpe (Kentucky, SG, Freshman)

11. New York Knicks: Malaki Branham (Ohio State, SG, Freshman)

12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Clippers): Jalen Duren (Memphis, C, Freshman)

13. Charlotte Hornets: Jeremy Sochan (Baylor, PF, Freshman)

14. Cleveland Cavaliers: Ochai Agbaji (Kansas, SG/SF, Senior)

Daniels surging into top-8 mix

Teams are under the impression that the Daniels buzz is real. His draft ceiling has been said to have risen into the Nos. 4-8 range after he measured like a wing (6'7½" in shoes), recorded the combine's fastest shuttle run, put on a convincing shooting clinic at his pro day and impressed in interviews. The fact that he's so versatile and interchangeable between positions 1-4 also eliminates fit concerns with most teams.

Branham's draft range now looking like Nos. 8-14

Daniels' name is hotter, but Branham's is also trending. Not everyone is convinced, but there is still a lot of interest in the freshman who's a year younger than Johnny Davis, measured longer and was more efficient from three, the mid-range and at the rim. Teams think that he can go as high as No. 8 and that he's a better bet to go in the lottery than be on the board at No. 15.

Teams watching old film of Shaedon Sharpe

The Pistons and others are going back to the AAU tape of Sharpe, who didn't play a minute this season. He looked good at his pro day, but teams acknowledge that his athleticism and shot-making were made for the one-on-none workout, and his agency did a good job of putting Sharpe in position to showcase his strengths. Talent alone right now has him in the mix for lottery teams, including Detroit at No. 5. However, despite an enticing mix of bounce and shooting skills, the film shows a player who struggles to create going north-south and relies heavily on low-percentage dribble jumpers. Limited confidence in Sharpe's feel or ability to make teammates better could lead to teams feeling more comfortable with prospects like Murray, Griffin, Davis and Mathurin.

Bradham plays a lot like Middleton without the defense. I wouldn't mind him if Mathurin and Davis are gone but I'd go with Sochan or Agbaji in that case.
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SergioNYK wrote:
martin wrote:Jonathan Wasserman and his updated mock draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956515-updated-2022-nba-mock-draft-why-teams-are-nervous-about-chet-holmgren

6. Indiana Pacers: AJ Griffin (Duke, SF, Freshman)

7. Portland Trail Blazers: Bennedict Mathurin (Arizona, SG/SF, Sophomore)

8. New Orleans Pelicans (via Lakers): Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite, PG/SG, 2003)

9. San Antonio Spurs: Johnny Davis (Wisconsin, SG, Sophomore)

10. Washington Wizards: Shaedon Sharpe (Kentucky, SG, Freshman)

11. New York Knicks: Malaki Branham (Ohio State, SG, Freshman)

12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Clippers): Jalen Duren (Memphis, C, Freshman)

13. Charlotte Hornets: Jeremy Sochan (Baylor, PF, Freshman)

14. Cleveland Cavaliers: Ochai Agbaji (Kansas, SG/SF, Senior)

Daniels surging into top-8 mix

Teams are under the impression that the Daniels buzz is real. His draft ceiling has been said to have risen into the Nos. 4-8 range after he measured like a wing (6'7½" in shoes), recorded the combine's fastest shuttle run, put on a convincing shooting clinic at his pro day and impressed in interviews. The fact that he's so versatile and interchangeable between positions 1-4 also eliminates fit concerns with most teams.

Branham's draft range now looking like Nos. 8-14

Daniels' name is hotter, but Branham's is also trending. Not everyone is convinced, but there is still a lot of interest in the freshman who's a year younger than Johnny Davis, measured longer and was more efficient from three, the mid-range and at the rim. Teams think that he can go as high as No. 8 and that he's a better bet to go in the lottery than be on the board at No. 15.

Teams watching old film of Shaedon Sharpe

The Pistons and others are going back to the AAU tape of Sharpe, who didn't play a minute this season. He looked good at his pro day, but teams acknowledge that his athleticism and shot-making were made for the one-on-none workout, and his agency did a good job of putting Sharpe in position to showcase his strengths. Talent alone right now has him in the mix for lottery teams, including Detroit at No. 5. However, despite an enticing mix of bounce and shooting skills, the film shows a player who struggles to create going north-south and relies heavily on low-percentage dribble jumpers. Limited confidence in Sharpe's feel or ability to make teammates better could lead to teams feeling more comfortable with prospects like Murray, Griffin, Davis and Mathurin.

Bradham plays a lot like Middleton without the defense. I wouldn't mind him if Mathurin and Davis are gone but I'd go with Sochan or Agbaji in that case.

Isn’t he a bad defender?

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wargames wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
martin wrote:Jonathan Wasserman and his updated mock draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956515-updated-2022-nba-mock-draft-why-teams-are-nervous-about-chet-holmgren

6. Indiana Pacers: AJ Griffin (Duke, SF, Freshman)

7. Portland Trail Blazers: Bennedict Mathurin (Arizona, SG/SF, Sophomore)

8. New Orleans Pelicans (via Lakers): Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite, PG/SG, 2003)

9. San Antonio Spurs: Johnny Davis (Wisconsin, SG, Sophomore)

10. Washington Wizards: Shaedon Sharpe (Kentucky, SG, Freshman)

11. New York Knicks: Malaki Branham (Ohio State, SG, Freshman)

12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Clippers): Jalen Duren (Memphis, C, Freshman)

13. Charlotte Hornets: Jeremy Sochan (Baylor, PF, Freshman)

14. Cleveland Cavaliers: Ochai Agbaji (Kansas, SG/SF, Senior)

Daniels surging into top-8 mix

Teams are under the impression that the Daniels buzz is real. His draft ceiling has been said to have risen into the Nos. 4-8 range after he measured like a wing (6'7½" in shoes), recorded the combine's fastest shuttle run, put on a convincing shooting clinic at his pro day and impressed in interviews. The fact that he's so versatile and interchangeable between positions 1-4 also eliminates fit concerns with most teams.

Branham's draft range now looking like Nos. 8-14

Daniels' name is hotter, but Branham's is also trending. Not everyone is convinced, but there is still a lot of interest in the freshman who's a year younger than Johnny Davis, measured longer and was more efficient from three, the mid-range and at the rim. Teams think that he can go as high as No. 8 and that he's a better bet to go in the lottery than be on the board at No. 15.

Teams watching old film of Shaedon Sharpe

The Pistons and others are going back to the AAU tape of Sharpe, who didn't play a minute this season. He looked good at his pro day, but teams acknowledge that his athleticism and shot-making were made for the one-on-none workout, and his agency did a good job of putting Sharpe in position to showcase his strengths. Talent alone right now has him in the mix for lottery teams, including Detroit at No. 5. However, despite an enticing mix of bounce and shooting skills, the film shows a player who struggles to create going north-south and relies heavily on low-percentage dribble jumpers. Limited confidence in Sharpe's feel or ability to make teammates better could lead to teams feeling more comfortable with prospects like Murray, Griffin, Davis and Mathurin.

Bradham plays a lot like Middleton without the defense. I wouldn't mind him if Mathurin and Davis are gone but I'd go with Sochan or Agbaji in that case.

Isn’t he a bad defender?

From what I've seen yes but he is super young and has the length to be good with the proper coaching and development.
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