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NYKBocker
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4/17/2020  1:34 PM
martin wrote:Cuomo is giving Trump the business this morn.

Small sample

Yup. I watch him every morning. Cuomo was pissed.
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4/17/2020  1:46 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
martin wrote:Cuomo is giving Trump the business this morn.

Small sample

Yup. I watch him every morning. Cuomo was pissed.

He’s not left wing enough for me, but even I can see he’d be a better presidential candidate
Than Biden (to be honest nearly anyone would)
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4/17/2020  1:58 PM
Pr***
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4/17/2020  2:21 PM
smackeddog wrote:Pr***

OMFG
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4/17/2020  2:38 PM
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4/17/2020  3:55 PM
He gonna burn it down.
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4/17/2020  4:48 PM
Nalod wrote:He gonna burn it down.

we are kinda headed there

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4/17/2020  5:47 PM
What the hell is Trump even doing?
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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4/17/2020  6:14 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sunlight-destroys-coronavirus-very-quickly-new-government-tests-find-but-experts-say-pandemic-could-still-last-through-summer-200745675.html
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4/18/2020  3:15 AM
I was feeling hopeful until the last paragraph...

Antibody study suggests coronavirus is far more widespread than previously thought

Non-peer reviewed study from Stanford found rate of virus may be 50 to 85 times higher than official figures

A new study in California has found the number of people infected with coronavirus may be tens of times higher than previously thought.

The study from Stanford University, which was released Friday and has yet to be peer reviewed, tested samples from 3,330 people in Santa Clara county and found the virus was 50 to 85 times more common than official figures indicated.

To ease the sprawling lockdowns currently in place to stop the spread of Covid-19, health officials must first determine how many people have been infected. Large studies of the prevalence of the virus within a region could play a key role, researchers say.

“This has implications for learning how far we are in the course of the epidemic,” said Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study. “It has implications for epidemic models that are being used to design policies and estimate what it means for our healthcare system.”

The study marks the first large-scale study of its kind, researchers said. The study was conducted by identifying antibodies in healthy individuals through a finger prick test, which indicated whether they had already contracted and recovered from the virus.

At the time of the study, Santa Clara county had 1,094 confirmed cases of Covid-19, resulting in 50 deaths. But based on the rate of people who have antibodies, it is likely that between 48,000 and 81,000 people had been infected in Santa Clara county by early April – a number approximately 50 to 80 times higher.

That also means coronavirus is potentially much less deadly to the overall population than initially thought. As of Tuesday, the US’s coronavirus death rate was 4.1% and Stanford researchers said their findings show a death rate of just 0.12% to 0.2%.

The study has been interpreted by some to mean we are closer to herd immunity – the concept that if enough people in a population have developed antibodies to a disease that population becomes immune – than expected. This would allow some to more quickly get back to work, a strategy currently being deployed in Sweden. But researchers behind the study said not to jump to conclusions or make policy choices until more research has been done.

The study confirms the widely-held belief that far more people than originally thought have been infected with the coronavirus, said Arthur Reingold, an epidemiology professor at UC Berkeley who was not involved in the study, but it doesn’t mean the shelter-in-place order will be lifted any time soon.

“The idea this would be a passport to going safely back to work and getting us up and running has two constraints: we do not know if antibodies protect you and for how long, and a very small percentage of the population even has antibodies,” he said.

Even with the adjusted rate of infection as found by the study, only 3% of the population has coronavirus – that means 97% does not. To reach herd immunity 50% or more of the population would have to be infected and recovered from coronavirus.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought
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4/18/2020  11:20 AM
smackeddog wrote:I was feeling hopeful until the last paragraph...

Antibody study suggests coronavirus is far more widespread than previously thought

Non-peer reviewed study from Stanford found rate of virus may be 50 to 85 times higher than official figures

A new study in California has found the number of people infected with coronavirus may be tens of times higher than previously thought.

The study from Stanford University, which was released Friday and has yet to be peer reviewed, tested samples from 3,330 people in Santa Clara county and found the virus was 50 to 85 times more common than official figures indicated.

To ease the sprawling lockdowns currently in place to stop the spread of Covid-19, health officials must first determine how many people have been infected. Large studies of the prevalence of the virus within a region could play a key role, researchers say.

“This has implications for learning how far we are in the course of the epidemic,” said Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study. “It has implications for epidemic models that are being used to design policies and estimate what it means for our healthcare system.”

The study marks the first large-scale study of its kind, researchers said. The study was conducted by identifying antibodies in healthy individuals through a finger prick test, which indicated whether they had already contracted and recovered from the virus.

At the time of the study, Santa Clara county had 1,094 confirmed cases of Covid-19, resulting in 50 deaths. But based on the rate of people who have antibodies, it is likely that between 48,000 and 81,000 people had been infected in Santa Clara county by early April – a number approximately 50 to 80 times higher.

That also means coronavirus is potentially much less deadly to the overall population than initially thought. As of Tuesday, the US’s coronavirus death rate was 4.1% and Stanford researchers said their findings show a death rate of just 0.12% to 0.2%.

The study has been interpreted by some to mean we are closer to herd immunity – the concept that if enough people in a population have developed antibodies to a disease that population becomes immune – than expected. This would allow some to more quickly get back to work, a strategy currently being deployed in Sweden. But researchers behind the study said not to jump to conclusions or make policy choices until more research has been done.

The study confirms the widely-held belief that far more people than originally thought have been infected with the coronavirus, said Arthur Reingold, an epidemiology professor at UC Berkeley who was not involved in the study, but it doesn’t mean the shelter-in-place order will be lifted any time soon.

“The idea this would be a passport to going safely back to work and getting us up and running has two constraints: we do not know if antibodies protect you and for how long, and a very small percentage of the population even has antibodies,” he said.

Even with the adjusted rate of infection as found by the study, only 3% of the population has coronavirus – that means 97% does not. To reach herd immunity 50% or more of the population would have to be infected and recovered from coronavirus.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought

2 more not so good signs:

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4/19/2020  10:21 PM

Excuse the language. Dont play around children.

But he was on point.

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4/19/2020  10:45 PM
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newyorknewyork wrote:

Excuse the language. Dont play around children.

But he was on point.
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4/20/2020  3:09 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/20/white-house-gop-face-heat-after-hotel-restaurant-chains-helped-run-small-business-program-dry/

The federal government gave national hotel and restaurant chains millions of dollars in grants before the $349 billion program ran out of money Thursday, leading to a backlash that prompted one company to give the money back and a Republican senator to say that “millions of dollars are being wasted.”

Thousands of traditional small businesses were unable to get funding from the program before it ran dry. As Congress and the White House near a deal to add an additional $310 billion to the program, some are calling for additional oversight and rule changes to prevent bigger chains from accepting any more money.

Ruth’s Chris Steak House, a chain that has 150 locations and is valued at $250 million, reported receiving $20 million in funding from the small business portion of the economic stimulus legislation called the Paycheck Protection Program. The Potbelly chain of sandwich shops, which has more than 400 locations and a value of $89 million, reported receiving $10 million last week.

Shake Shack, a $1.6 billion burger-and-fries chain based in New York City, received $10 million. After complaints from small business advocates when the fund went dry, company founder Danny Meyer and chief executive Randy Garutti announced Sunday evening that they would return the money.

They said they had no idea that the program would run out of money so quickly and that they understood the uproar.

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4/20/2020  7:39 PM
https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/hundreds-of-protesters-defy-lockdown-orders-in-pennsylvania/

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4/20/2020  9:17 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/hundreds-of-protesters-defy-lockdown-orders-in-pennsylvania/

they're wearing masks? pu$$ies.
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4/20/2020  9:46 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:

Excuse the language. Dont play around children.

But he was on point.

He was. I just hoped he wiped down the dashboard and steering wheel before anyone else got in that car.
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4/21/2020  6:24 AM
djsunyc wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/hundreds-of-protesters-defy-lockdown-orders-in-pennsylvania/

they're wearing masks? pu$$ies.

Hula shirt and assault rifle, what a fashion faux-pas...

On a serious note, are you really allowed to walk down a street carrying an assault rifle?
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4/21/2020  7:14 AM
Juliano wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/hundreds-of-protesters-defy-lockdown-orders-in-pennsylvania/

they're wearing masks? pu$$ies.

Hula shirt and assault rifle, what a fashion faux-pas...

On a serious note, are you really allowed to walk down a street carrying an assault rifle?

At age 16 or so... if I may add...
Damn there is sooo much wrong in this Picture!!!

So quick international heads-up on Germany.
We have done an overall good job flattening the curve... however the main restrictions and social distancing rules are still kept - some stores are allowed to reopen in some states.
Some states have now introduced a rule to wear a mask/scarf or similar when you are outside shopping etc.
The Octoberfest has been canceled - which is a HUGE thing here in Munich where I live - but generally ppl agree with the course and actions of our government.

The strategy from here on is to follow the numbers development - and aligne meassures (easing and tighening) according to them in a 2 week rhythm.
Expectations are that we will not have fully open schools or Kindergardens for example until after Summer (minimum).

No big promisses from anybody here regarding a vaccine or cure this year!
Just cool and calm analysis and meassures.
I honestly love living here right now!
Biggest downer for me right now is that I would hope for more "lived" support/help/solidarity with other European countries which have been hit harder than us e.g. Spain, Italy, France of course!
I would hope for a quicker and more vocal support system to be set up by the EU and of course with the full support of Germany. :-/
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