Markji wrote:

tkf wrote:

Markji wrote:TKF - the box is too big and I have to work. Just one point....your"but trying to play the "euros are better team players card" is a bit desperate, come on now." You dismiss a very important point without any validation. I feel u should at least accept it. Because how else did the US drream teams lose to Euro teams with players from just 1 country. Some didn't even have an NBA player while we had all-stars.

Facing increased competition, the USA failed to win a medal at the 2002 FIBA World Championship, finishing sixth. The 2004 Summer Olympic team lost three games on its way to a bronze medal, a record that represented more losses in a single year than the country's Olympic teams had suffered in all previous Olympiads combined.

Determined to put an end to these failures, USA Basketball initiated a long-term project aimed at creating better, more cohesive teams. The USA won its first seven games at the 2006 FIBA World Championship in Japan before losing against Greece in the semi-finals, ending the competition with the bronze medal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_basketball_team

How the heck did we lose to Greece. How did we come in 6th in 2002? The Euro play solid basketball. They aren't as fast; not as athletic; can't jump as high; etc, but they are well coached and play a solid game of BB. This is just one point, not the main point to sway an argument; but it gives us a plus. And BTW, your comment about Kidd and Prigs last year - We played very well and better team ball when Kidd was able to play the first few months. After that he was physically finished.

You're too hyped up on "Iso" play. Every teeam has star players who take more shots than the others.

are you kidding me, are you going to use an exception to prove our point? how come we won gold in 2012? 2008? 2000? 1996? 1992? and the list goes on.. remember we started sending pro playes in what, the 90's? only when we don't send close to our best do we struggle.. the last time I remember losing gold was in 2004, and wasn't carmelo on that team? just asking.. anyway..

You're too hyped up on "Iso" play. Every teeam has star players who take more shots than the others.

actually I am not, I am hyped up against.. sure every team has star players who take more shots than others.... and usually the teams that win have star players that are efficient, so taking more of the shots is a good thing..

the problem.. we have a guy who thinks he is as star player and takes a lion share of the shots and is not that efficient at all...

OK - so to say it succinctly you don't like Melo's game when he forces his shot. He gets double-teamed a lot and should pass out of that to the open man. I get it. I agree with that.

However, we can provide Melo with a mismatch inside and then he is a better scorer. Perhaps Bargs will help spread the floor.And we have 3 point guards who can pass and run an offense. None are all-stars but all 3 are solid.

Re: US Olympic teams. - with our talent we should never have lost. It is only recently that the European players as a group, have improved talent-wise to have so many play in the NBA. But individual talent-wise, the US dominates.

I will say this, carmelo does not get double teamed that much, in the pacers series, paul george didn't have help, yet carmelo was guarded very well and did force up shots, and everytime he missed he seemed to run back holding his shoulder.. I was like, really dude? if your shoulder hurts, stop taking 30 shots?

I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

However, we can provide Melo with a mismatch inside and then he is a better scorer. Perhaps Bargs will help spread the floor.And we have 3 point guards who can pass and run an offense. None are all-stars but all 3 are solid.

Bargnani spreading the floor is just another overrated wishful attempt to spin the trade.. we had the best 3 point shooter in the league in novak.. wasn't that his job? when the pacers took that away, when the heat took that away, then novak was considered useless... what i suspect is that the pacers, bulls and heat will also chase three point shooters off the line... yea, yea, now you are going to tell me how great bargnani is at putting the ball on the floor.. right? well really he isn't.. if he is putting the ball on the floor, then how does that help the mismatch with carmelo as you put it? do you really want barngnani dribbling? how well did that work in toronto..

in the end, we got the wrong players, plain and simple.. can't fit square pegs in round holes...

dk7th wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

raven wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

raven wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:This is kind of off topic but kind of not. W

What makes the mid range jumper so inefficient compared to the 3pt shot. Is it because majority of 3s are spot up open looks and majority of long 2s are coming off the dribble?

Mathematically is a open spot up 15-20ft jumper still more inefficient then a open spot up 23-24ft jumper?

The long two is a troubling shot for two basic reasons: 1) league-wide these shots only go in 37% of the time, which is a low value for a measly two-point attempt, especially considering that the league shoots 35% from beyond the 3-point line, which is just a step or two away (and those shots are worth 50% more points). 2) Those frequent misses are rebounded by the defensive team 78% of the time, which is among the highest percentages anywhere on the court; even missed 3′s provoke more offensive rebounds (23.6%) than missed long twos (22%). In other words, when you shoot a long two, your risk-reward ratio is too high.

http://courtvisionanalytics.com/the-long-two-and-josh-smith/

And remember that if your % is 40% from 3, you would need a 60% from 2 to match that (because 3s well, are worth 3pts)... And for long jumpers, this is out of reach from most nba players except some games when they catch fire. This also is the reason why Melo became a much better scorer when he started shooting so many 3s with such a high %.

Thanks!

Still y is the long 2 only 2% higher though? They are also counting all long 2s which majority come off the dribble. What's the % of spot up long 2s compared to spot up long 3s?

I don't have the specific stats you ask for, but it really doesn't matter. The fact is a long 2 is neither a shot at the rim or a 3pointer, which means it basically sucks. A shot at the rim is a better % shot and is a chance to get Fts. An uncontested 3er is easier to score than most contested 2s and is worth 3pts.

So each time you take a long 2, it's either a shot at the rim or a 3er you don't take, which is great either way for the opposing team.

Think about this, you have a P&R situation with a duncan in his prime. Would you rather see him go to the basket or take a long 2?
You have Lebron with the ball in his hands, would you rather see him pass to Ray Allen for a corner 3, go hard at the rim or take a long 2?

Shooting mid range jumpers is a great skill to have in a sense that it can transform bad situations into good ones (when you score), but it's not reliable in the long run statistically speaking to carry you play after play.

I understand the logic behind y 3s and close 2s are better. I was just wondering why the shot was missed so much by NBA players and if the %s increased drastically if was a open spot up shot compared to off the dribble.

it isn't practiced enough. very few players shoot off the dribble or possess a step back 2. nash is one of the few left and he is a living example of its effectiveness.

nash is a living example of everything I love about basketball.... just a technician with the ball.. completely understands how the game should be played...

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

raven wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

raven wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:This is kind of off topic but kind of not. W

What makes the mid range jumper so inefficient compared to the 3pt shot. Is it because majority of 3s are spot up open looks and majority of long 2s are coming off the dribble?

Mathematically is a open spot up 15-20ft jumper still more inefficient then a open spot up 23-24ft jumper?

The long two is a troubling shot for two basic reasons: 1) league-wide these shots only go in 37% of the time, which is a low value for a measly two-point attempt, especially considering that the league shoots 35% from beyond the 3-point line, which is just a step or two away (and those shots are worth 50% more points). 2) Those frequent misses are rebounded by the defensive team 78% of the time, which is among the highest percentages anywhere on the court; even missed 3′s provoke more offensive rebounds (23.6%) than missed long twos (22%). In other words, when you shoot a long two, your risk-reward ratio is too high.

http://courtvisionanalytics.com/the-long-two-and-josh-smith/

And remember that if your % is 40% from 3, you would need a 60% from 2 to match that (because 3s well, are worth 3pts)... And for long jumpers, this is out of reach from most nba players except some games when they catch fire. This also is the reason why Melo became a much better scorer when he started shooting so many 3s with such a high %.

Thanks!

Still y is the long 2 only 2% higher though? They are also counting all long 2s which majority come off the dribble. What's the % of spot up long 2s compared to spot up long 3s?

I don't have the specific stats you ask for, but it really doesn't matter. The fact is a long 2 is neither a shot at the rim or a 3pointer, which means it basically sucks. A shot at the rim is a better % shot and is a chance to get Fts. An uncontested 3er is easier to score than most contested 2s and is worth 3pts.

So each time you take a long 2, it's either a shot at the rim or a 3er you don't take, which is great either way for the opposing team.

Think about this, you have a P&R situation with a duncan in his prime. Would you rather see him go to the basket or take a long 2?
You have Lebron with the ball in his hands, would you rather see him pass to Ray Allen for a corner 3, go hard at the rim or take a long 2?

Shooting mid range jumpers is a great skill to have in a sense that it can transform bad situations into good ones (when you score), but it's not reliable in the long run statistically speaking to carry you play after play.

I understand the logic behind y 3s and close 2s are better. I was just wondering why the shot was missed so much by NBA players and if the %s increased drastically if was a open spot up shot compared to off the dribble.

it isn't practiced enough. very few players shoot off the dribble or possess a step back 2. nash is one of the few left and he is a living example of its effectiveness.

nash is a living example of everything I love about basketball.... just a technician with the ball.. completely understands how the game should be played...

Out interest, back in the 90s, what did you think of the way we played then? What dis you think of john starks? I remember JVGs offense consisted solely of 'dump it to Ewing'. We're you one of those people who backed Don Nelson over Starks and Ewing?

Just curious, I'm not making a point or anythin

smackeddog wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

raven wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

raven wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:This is kind of off topic but kind of not. W

What makes the mid range jumper so inefficient compared to the 3pt shot. Is it because majority of 3s are spot up open looks and majority of long 2s are coming off the dribble?

Mathematically is a open spot up 15-20ft jumper still more inefficient then a open spot up 23-24ft jumper?

The long two is a troubling shot for two basic reasons: 1) league-wide these shots only go in 37% of the time, which is a low value for a measly two-point attempt, especially considering that the league shoots 35% from beyond the 3-point line, which is just a step or two away (and those shots are worth 50% more points). 2) Those frequent misses are rebounded by the defensive team 78% of the time, which is among the highest percentages anywhere on the court; even missed 3′s provoke more offensive rebounds (23.6%) than missed long twos (22%). In other words, when you shoot a long two, your risk-reward ratio is too high.

http://courtvisionanalytics.com/the-long-two-and-josh-smith/

And remember that if your % is 40% from 3, you would need a 60% from 2 to match that (because 3s well, are worth 3pts)... And for long jumpers, this is out of reach from most nba players except some games when they catch fire. This also is the reason why Melo became a much better scorer when he started shooting so many 3s with such a high %.

Thanks!

Still y is the long 2 only 2% higher though? They are also counting all long 2s which majority come off the dribble. What's the % of spot up long 2s compared to spot up long 3s?

I don't have the specific stats you ask for, but it really doesn't matter. The fact is a long 2 is neither a shot at the rim or a 3pointer, which means it basically sucks. A shot at the rim is a better % shot and is a chance to get Fts. An uncontested 3er is easier to score than most contested 2s and is worth 3pts.

So each time you take a long 2, it's either a shot at the rim or a 3er you don't take, which is great either way for the opposing team.

Think about this, you have a P&R situation with a duncan in his prime. Would you rather see him go to the basket or take a long 2?
You have Lebron with the ball in his hands, would you rather see him pass to Ray Allen for a corner 3, go hard at the rim or take a long 2?

Shooting mid range jumpers is a great skill to have in a sense that it can transform bad situations into good ones (when you score), but it's not reliable in the long run statistically speaking to carry you play after play.

I understand the logic behind y 3s and close 2s are better. I was just wondering why the shot was missed so much by NBA players and if the %s increased drastically if was a open spot up shot compared to off the dribble.

it isn't practiced enough. very few players shoot off the dribble or possess a step back 2. nash is one of the few left and he is a living example of its effectiveness.

nash is a living example of everything I love about basketball.... just a technician with the ball.. completely understands how the game should be played...

Out interest, back in the 90s, what did you think of the way we played then? What dis you think of john starks? I remember JVGs offense consisted solely of 'dump it to Ewing'. We're you one of those people who backed Don Nelson over Starks and Ewing?

Just curious, I'm not making a point or anythin

I liked that we were a gritty team, but once we played chicago i figured that slow, plodding beat em up style as not going to beat the quick, athletic and very talented bulls team... what I like about the 90's teams is that those guys did play hard, although most were limited they left everything out on the court.. I can respect that.. wasn't a huge fan of the dump it to ewing offense, wish he became a better passer. I said that so many times... but ewing never cheated the knicks and honestly if not for Jordan, he probably has a ring or two....

We're you one of those people who backed Don Nelson over Starks and Ewing?

actually I was.. i was at the Hawks game when word came down that nelson got fired. i remember it well. I didn't like it because I thought that ewing and starks were very stubborn. nelson wanted to switch up the offense a bit, make it less predictable.. we had a guy in mason who could handle the ball and pass.. we had no rings, it was worth a try... I think nelson may have went about it not in the best way, but I understood what he was trying to do....

Bernard king was my favorite knick, i went to the first game he played as a knick... I loved how great of a scorer he was.. a TRUE scorer... but even with all of his scoring ability, it wasn't enough... it was hard to pair bernard with other players.. He demanded the ball, and shooting over 50% how could you fault that... I remember when we got truck robinson, although on his last legs, he was still a decent player.. came to NY and could not play with king, his game fell apart... I loved bernard, he was not a selfish player at all, but Hubie brown wanted to win and he loved just dumping it to bernard... in the end that wasn't enough.. the celtics used to say, ok king, go and score 50 every night.. but you won't beat us...

you have to have diversity... Great players are great players.. not just scorers, their talent will shine through, doesn't matter if they score 15 or 25.... there is a fine line with that... and as much as I loved bernards scoring, we needed a more diverse attack, great teams are just not going to let one man beat them, ask jordan....

misterearl wrote:How many championship rings does Steve Nash have?

tkf wrote:
nash is a living example of everything I love about basketball.... just a technician with the ball.. completely understands how the game should be played...

What about Magic Johnson?

steve nash has no rings, but he has 2mvp's and changed the whole culture of a franchise... dude is GREAT..

Magic johnson, Steve nash, gary payton, tim duncan, manu, bird, chris paul, garnett, jason kidd all of those guys play the game the way I love seeing it played....

smackeddog wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

jrodmc wrote:

tkf wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

tkf wrote:

Markji wrote:

tkf wrote:

Markji wrote:TKF - the box is too big and I have to work. Just one point....your"but trying to play the "euros are better team players card" is a bit desperate, come on now." You dismiss a very important point without any validation. I feel u should at least accept it. Because how else did the US drream teams lose to Euro teams with players from just 1 country. Some didn't even have an NBA player while we had all-stars.

Facing increased competition, the USA failed to win a medal at the 2002 FIBA World Championship, finishing sixth. The 2004 Summer Olympic team lost three games on its way to a bronze medal, a record that represented more losses in a single year than the country's Olympic teams had suffered in all previous Olympiads combined.

Determined to put an end to these failures, USA Basketball initiated a long-term project aimed at creating better, more cohesive teams. The USA won its first seven games at the 2006 FIBA World Championship in Japan before losing against Greece in the semi-finals, ending the competition with the bronze medal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_basketball_team

How the heck did we lose to Greece. How did we come in 6th in 2002? The Euro play solid basketball. They aren't as fast; not as athletic; can't jump as high; etc, but they are well coached and play a solid game of BB. This is just one point, not the main point to sway an argument; but it gives us a plus. And BTW, your comment about Kidd and Prigs last year - We played very well and better team ball when Kidd was able to play the first few months. After that he was physically finished.

You're too hyped up on "Iso" play. Every teeam has star players who take more shots than the others.

are you kidding me, are you going to use an exception to prove our point? how come we won gold in 2012? 2008? 2000? 1996? 1992? and the list goes on.. remember we started sending pro playes in what, the 90's? only when we don't send close to our best do we struggle.. the last time I remember losing gold was in 2004, and wasn't carmelo on that team? just asking.. anyway..

You're too hyped up on "Iso" play. Every teeam has star players who take more shots than the others.

actually I am not, I am hyped up against.. sure every team has star players who take more shots than others.... and usually the teams that win have star players that are efficient, so taking more of the shots is a good thing..

the problem.. we have a guy who thinks he is as star player and takes a lion share of the shots and is not that efficient at all...

OK - so to say it succinctly you don't like Melo's game when he forces his shot. He gets double-teamed a lot and should pass out of that to the open man. I get it. I agree with that.

However, we can provide Melo with a mismatch inside and then he is a better scorer. Perhaps Bargs will help spread the floor.And we have 3 point guards who can pass and run an offense. None are all-stars but all 3 are solid.

Re: US Olympic teams. - with our talent we should never have lost. It is only recently that the European players as a group, have improved talent-wise to have so many play in the NBA. But individual talent-wise, the US dominates.

I will say this, carmelo does not get double teamed that much, in the pacers series, paul george didn't have help, yet carmelo was guarded very well and did force up shots, and everytime he missed he seemed to run back holding his shoulder.. I was like, really dude? if your shoulder hurts, stop taking 30 shots?

I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

However, we can provide Melo with a mismatch inside and then he is a better scorer. Perhaps Bargs will help spread the floor.And we have 3 point guards who can pass and run an offense. None are all-stars but all 3 are solid.

Bargnani spreading the floor is just another overrated wishful attempt to spin the trade.. we had the best 3 point shooter in the league in novak.. wasn't that his job? when the pacers took that away, when the heat took that away, then novak was considered useless... what i suspect is that the pacers, bulls and heat will also chase three point shooters off the line... yea, yea, now you are going to tell me how great bargnani is at putting the ball on the floor.. right? well really he isn't.. if he is putting the ball on the floor, then how does that help the mismatch with carmelo as you put it? do you really want barngnani dribbling? how well did that work in toronto..

in the end, we got the wrong players, plain and simple.. can't fit square pegs in round holes...

I don't care much for the personal arguing that has been going on in this tread. I do have to say what you said about Melo not being doubled much and him not getting doubled in the pacers series is wrong. Melo is doubled more times than not which is why the team show so well from the 3point line most of the year. We were getting wide open 3's from the double teams.

During the pacers series they doubled melo also. They did it differently than the way we double team people. Woody likes to run someone right at the person to double him. The pacers used the funnel melo into the double team at the rim strategy. Did he get doubled at the 3pt line? NO, but he got doubled once he drove to the hoop because that is what they wanted him to do. The pacers did not bring the cheese to the mouse they lead the mouse to the 7'2"cheese.

jrodmc wrote:

tkf wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

tkf wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

tkf wrote:[I don't like his style, the way he plays, his selfishness, mindset, the way he approaches the game, his face!! nothing.. so yea, it pisses me off he is on this team, the guy sabotages this teams championship aspirations just by being on it... fools gold man.. I see right through it..

Sig worthy. If there ever was.

Ha ha, I do find it amusing when people can develop such hatred over people they've never even met and if you take a step back, have never harmed you in any way! (I do it too)- no doubt I will be typing a similar post once after we've signed Kevin love in 2015...

don't find it funny. you guys have spit venom at me, and never met me at all...I am an actually fan that wants the best for the team, not my pockets, if anything you should completely understand where I am coming from.. in a few years, I will still here, carmelo won't.. he could care less about the knicks.. never did, never will..

Normally your thoughts coalesce in some fashion, but that stuff above may just be the most disjointed sentence you've ever typed. wtf are you talking about? Your pockets? Melo's presence in a few years? What someone you've never met or even talked to cares about? If he signs an extension, are you going to leave?

Relax, tkf. It's just an internet board. In real life I'm sure you're .... an absolute jerk.

what I am saying is this... people don't understand why I don't like carmelo.. well I feel he is hindering my team... other than maybe annoying a few, how am I personally hurting the knicks.. so if anything it is crazy to spew venom at me, yet ask why I don't like carmelo...

In the end, carmelo will chase another max deal... I will be here when he is long gone, even if he signs another extension, father time will run him out of the league at some point like it does every player, so either way, he will be gone...

carmelo's actions shows me he doesn't care less about the knicks, I don't need to talk to him at all... actions speak loud... the guy is a selfish, wannabee superstar hack... and the sad thing is, we are now loading up this team with has beens like artest, and kenyon... good players in their day, but that is long gone, and on top of it, we now have NY fans acting like bargnani is going to save the day... all of this is maddening bro.. just maddening....

I can understand not liking a player, but disliking...his face? his mindset??? Seriously? I personally hated Danny Ainge, his whining alone completely soured me against him no matter what he did or who he played for. But when you grow up, you learn to laugh at stupidity like that over someone you don't even know and never will know. Danny's probably a great guy, his kids probably adore him.

No one's saying you are hurting the Knicks, like smackeddog says, we get that you hate Melo. That original post you made was just so hate-encapsulating, it read almost like you were gnashing your teeth while you typed. It's a bit strange, is all.

We've actually agreed on several points, tkf. So it's not all spit and venom, dude. I find some of your posts very Gettysburgh Addressish, so well thought out and backed up that it's just a good read, and doesn't need any response.

I am going to wish that somehow, someway, you win some absolutely free, all expenses paid MSG promotional thing where Melo is a surprise guest and you find out he used your posts as motivation to win his first scoring title...

tkf: "...so, in summary Jimmie, I truly resent your insipid attempts at managing a franchise within a sport you obviously know very little about, and a team that I hold so close to my heart and my checkbook..."
[Melo enters the room]
tkf: "holeeeeeeeee sheet"
Melo: "so this is the great tkf..." [reaches down, shakes hands]
tkf: "you actually read my shit?!???"
Melo: "you dayum skippy. there's an entire MSG media posse flippin the whole internet upside down looking for anything that might hurt my psyche..."
tkf: "Well, I..."
Melo: "easy, bro, nothing personal, right? I mean, it's not like I actually killed your dog, or knifed Mardy Collins, right?"
tkf: "...Mardy..." [starts to break down]
Melo: "Look, I'm serious about my brand here, that whole comin home sheet was more than just sellin kicks, ya know?"
tkf: "...you know, I just don't... really appreciate...I mean, your so iso..."
Melo: "I know, I know, I got you. But seriously, you ever think I take this sheet so seriously that I constantly look at every possession as my responsibility? Like I would climb inside the effin hole with the ball if I could...ya know what that's like?, 19,000 pairs of eye balls depending on you, and all you have on the court with you is ..... Landry Fields??? C'mon, I mean seriously, that kind of experience can scar a brother..."
tkf: "Well..."
Melo: "C'mon, eff this place, lets go out on the floor, and you show me how to be more efficient, aight? Later, Jimmie"
[tkf melts, Dolan smiles, hands $1000 in large to the security guard lady at the table]

i don't believe the conversation would go quite the way you have written it here. maybe you are projecting?