Dagger wrote:Terrible games from MElo and JR
Stellar games by Shump and Felton

I'd like to tell myself that it is Melo's shoulder that is making him play like crap, but there's definitely more to it than that. he should remove the glue from his fingers. It's not okay to hold the ball 20 seconds out of the shot clock then hoist up an awful 3 EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION down the stretch.

Melo has a really tough time with the celtics. I hope that is all that it is. The pacers didnt face an opponent like the celts. Hopefully the Knicks learned from this.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Clean wrote:

nixluva wrote:YO not for nothing but Woody has to get his act together cuz his mistakes have been highly problematic. Not playing Prigs and allowing the Knicks to slow their game down to a crawl so that they lost all intensity made no sense. Woody seems not to realize his 2 top players are not playing well and Melo could be hurt. Woody should be making more use of the guys who are actually going well.

Now I see why the Hawks fired him even though they were a 50 win team.

This is the truly scary part of Woody as a coach. He does so good but then in the playoffs he has these mind numbingly bad stretches. He has to get his act together!!! Why NO PRIGS in the 4th? Why did they have to go away from Felton and force it to Melo every time down? Just so many things that drive you crazy. I'm glad they won, but this wasn't the best coaching performance at all.

Please stop..U are the biggest supporter of one of the worse coaches this organization has seen...When was the last time MDA made it to the second round...How many years has it been..Is it doable without Nash...So, silence and enjoy the win...

You take a shot at mda as a knick coach, means you were under a rock for his tenure

Who was under a rock?., me or u??..Name one time MDA overachieved with his roster..Just once...

Why the F are you guys bringing up MDA??? NO ONE EVEN MENTIONED HIM! This is about Woody who had one job to do and that was to make sure that his team played their style of ball, which is ball and player movement and NOT ISO which is playing into the Celtic's hands. The C's are the best defensive team against ISO in the league. WTF!!!

Once again we are ALL GLAD the team won, but you can't just ignore the way this team played and act like this was a clean win where the team was clicking on all cylinders!!!

When you spend 4 years praising and defending one of the worst coaches in the history of the franchise and then come out guns a blazin for the first coach to win a playoff series since JVg you have to expect a reaction.

MAn don't give me that ish. I've been playing and watching ball since the Knicks last won a title. I KNOW WTF i'm talking about. If i'm wrong about the mistakes this team made then point it out, but don't go into some crap about my support for MDA who wasn't even mentioned by me in any of my posts. I was making VALID points about mistakes MIKE WOODSON made that could easily have lost this game and then what would you be saying?

There's only one coach of this team and he hasn't had his team playing the right way for the majority of this series. They've only played good BB in spurts. He had a chance to have one complete game with the team up 20+ points and he didn't do it. Woody has to do a great job for this team to get to the finals. He can't make mistakes like he did in this series.

Have u ever had one complaint about MDA's coaching??

MSG3 wrote:

Dagger wrote:Terrible games from MElo and JR
Stellar games by Shump and Felton

I'd like to tell myself that it is Melo's shoulder that is making him play like crap, but there's definitely more to it than that. he should remove the glue from his fingers. It's not okay to hold the ball 20 seconds out of the shot clock then hoist up an awful 3 EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION down the stretch.

C's do this to Melo. I don't remember him ever having a great game against them besides game 2 a few years ago. We just beat the C's 4-2 without a really stellar game from him.

I expect a good series from him vs Indiana.

True but they need him to do better. I still liked his passing before the 4th. His excellent D and passing early saved him in my eyes.

TeamBall wrote:In my opinion the Celtics are a huge mental hump for the Knicks, especially Melo. Now that they've gotten past them, I think they'll play much better basketball.

+1

Highlights from tonight besides the final buzzer:

Pablo Precision Prigioni, draining the long ball and getting the Knicks jumpstarted tonight after a deflating Game 5. Set the tone early.
First half, Melo throws in a "BALL DON'T LIE!" at the line.
Ray/KG back and forth in the 3rd. Garnett's a punk, Ray took a bullcrap technical and came back and drilled the jumper over KG. On the other end, tries to fight through a screen and draws the offensive foul on KG.
Shump steal/dunk in the 4th to stop the bleeding from the 20-0 run. Doc said it right, Shump was the best player on the floor tonight.

It wasn't all pretty, but that W sure is.

Buck Foston. Onto Indy.

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Clean wrote:

nixluva wrote:YO not for nothing but Woody has to get his act together cuz his mistakes have been highly problematic. Not playing Prigs and allowing the Knicks to slow their game down to a crawl so that they lost all intensity made no sense. Woody seems not to realize his 2 top players are not playing well and Melo could be hurt. Woody should be making more use of the guys who are actually going well.

Now I see why the Hawks fired him even though they were a 50 win team.

This is the truly scary part of Woody as a coach. He does so good but then in the playoffs he has these mind numbingly bad stretches. He has to get his act together!!! Why NO PRIGS in the 4th? Why did they have to go away from Felton and force it to Melo every time down? Just so many things that drive you crazy. I'm glad they won, but this wasn't the best coaching performance at all.

Please stop..U are the biggest supporter of one of the worse coaches this organization has seen...When was the last time MDA made it to the second round...How many years has it been..Is it doable without Nash...So, silence and enjoy the win...

You take a shot at mda as a knick coach, means you were under a rock for his tenure

Who was under a rock?., me or u??..Name one time MDA overachieved with his roster..Just once...

Why the F are you guys bringing up MDA??? NO ONE EVEN MENTIONED HIM! This is about Woody who had one job to do and that was to make sure that his team played their style of ball, which is ball and player movement and NOT ISO which is playing into the Celtic's hands. The C's are the best defensive team against ISO in the league. WTF!!!

Once again we are ALL GLAD the team won, but you can't just ignore the way this team played and act like this was a clean win where the team was clicking on all cylinders!!!

When you spend 4 years praising and defending one of the worst coaches in the history of the franchise and then come out guns a blazin for the first coach to win a playoff series since JVg you have to expect a reaction.

MAn don't give me that ish. I've been playing and watching ball since the Knicks last won a title. I KNOW WTF i'm talking about. If i'm wrong about the mistakes this team made then point it out, but don't go into some crap about my support for MDA who wasn't even mentioned by me in any of my posts. I was making VALID points about mistakes MIKE WOODSON made that could easily have lost this game and then what would you be saying?

There's only one coach of this team and he hasn't had his team playing the right way for the majority of this series. They've only played good BB in spurts. He had a chance to have one complete game with the team up 20+ points and he didn't do it. Woody has to do a great job for this team to get to the finals. He can't make mistakes like he did in this series.

Have u ever had one complaint about MDA's coaching??

Yes I have had complaints about things MDA has done or not done, but why is that relevant to this current situation and why are you and others trying to make this about MDA? I'VE NEVER said that MDA was perfect and have stated his flaws as a coach many times. MDA is a system guy and not as good when he's forced to play a team that can't run his system. Thing is that he's shown himself to be great when you give him the tools he needs to succeed. They didn't do that in NY or LA. If you hire MDA you are doing so knowing he's a system guy.

Now the relevant issue is that Woody has made quite a few mistakes in the playoffs which is his biggest flaw. He's been great in the regular season and not as good in the playoffs. I just don't like some of the things I saw. Very happy we won, but this was much closer to a horrible collapse than it should've been. I'm looking forward to a better performance in the 2nd rd.

It's almost as if some of us are too happy we made it out of the 1st rd. The goal isn't to win the 1st rd. The goal is to make the ECF's and have a shot to make the finals. That's why i'm bashing Woody, cuz he's gonna have to be much better in order to get the the ECF's. Hopefully he's learned from this series.

Dagger wrote:Terrible games from MElo and JR
Stellar games by Shump and Felton

I'd like to tell myself that it is Melo's shoulder that is making him play like crap, but there's definitely more to it than that. he should remove the glue from his fingers. It's not okay to hold the ball 20 seconds out of the shot clock then hoist up an awful 3 EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION down the stretch.

As bad a shooting night as Melo had, he scored 7 straight pts down the stretch when we desperately needed them. Not to mention the huge 3. JR had a huge and 1 basket aswell. Its when you score that counts. Both made clutch baskets when it counted.....

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Clean wrote:

nixluva wrote:YO not for nothing but Woody has to get his act together cuz his mistakes have been highly problematic. Not playing Prigs and allowing the Knicks to slow their game down to a crawl so that they lost all intensity made no sense. Woody seems not to realize his 2 top players are not playing well and Melo could be hurt. Woody should be making more use of the guys who are actually going well.

Now I see why the Hawks fired him even though they were a 50 win team.

This is the truly scary part of Woody as a coach. He does so good but then in the playoffs he has these mind numbingly bad stretches. He has to get his act together!!! Why NO PRIGS in the 4th? Why did they have to go away from Felton and force it to Melo every time down? Just so many things that drive you crazy. I'm glad they won, but this wasn't the best coaching performance at all.

Please stop..U are the biggest supporter of one of the worse coaches this organization has seen...When was the last time MDA made it to the second round...How many years has it been..Is it doable without Nash...So, silence and enjoy the win...

You take a shot at mda as a knick coach, means you were under a rock for his tenure

Who was under a rock?., me or u??..Name one time MDA overachieved with his roster..Just once...

Why the F are you guys bringing up MDA??? NO ONE EVEN MENTIONED HIM! This is about Woody who had one job to do and that was to make sure that his team played their style of ball, which is ball and player movement and NOT ISO which is playing into the Celtic's hands. The C's are the best defensive team against ISO in the league. WTF!!!

Once again we are ALL GLAD the team won, but you can't just ignore the way this team played and act like this was a clean win where the team was clicking on all cylinders!!!

When you spend 4 years praising and defending one of the worst coaches in the history of the franchise and then come out guns a blazin for the first coach to win a playoff series since JVg you have to expect a reaction.

MAn don't give me that ish. I've been playing and watching ball since the Knicks last won a title. I KNOW WTF i'm talking about. If i'm wrong about the mistakes this team made then point it out, but don't go into some crap about my support for MDA who wasn't even mentioned by me in any of my posts. I was making VALID points about mistakes MIKE WOODSON made that could easily have lost this game and then what would you be saying?

There's only one coach of this team and he hasn't had his team playing the right way for the majority of this series. They've only played good BB in spurts. He had a chance to have one complete game with the team up 20+ points and he didn't do it. Woody has to do a great job for this team to get to the finals. He can't make mistakes like he did in this series.

Have u ever had one complaint about MDA's coaching??

Yes I have had complaints about things MDA has done or not done, but why is that relevant to this current situation and why are you and others trying to make this about MDA? I'VE NEVER said that MDA was perfect and have stated his flaws as a coach many times. MDA is a system guy and not as good when he's forced to play a team that can't run his system. Thing is that he's shown himself to be great when you give him the tools he needs to succeed. They didn't do that in NY or LA. If you hire MDA you are doing so knowing he's a system guy.

Now the relevant issue is that Woody has made quite a few mistakes in the playoffs which is his biggest flaw. He's been great in the regular season and not as good in the playoffs. I just don't like some of the things I saw. Very happy we won, but this was much closer to a horrible collapse than it should've been. I'm looking forward to a better performance in the 2nd rd.

It's almost as if some of us are too happy we made it out of the 1st rd. The goal isn't to win the 1st rd. The goal is to make the ECF's and have a shot to make the finals. That's why i'm bashing Woody, cuz he's gonna have to be much better in order to get the the ECF's. Hopefully he's learned from this series.

We haven't made it out of the first round in13 years. During four of thee years you praised dantoni unconditionally despite the fact the guy was one of the worst coaches in franchise history. On the night the Knicks advance your history of defending the guy that was here before and couldn't get it done to the point where the Knicks were headed to the lottery last year takes way from your credibility in my opinion. I think that might be why dantoni comes up when you criticize a guy that actually wins.

ActionJackson wrote:where are the threads & posts about how Shump got in Pierce's head & forced him into a horrible shooting night? or how Pierce came up small in the clutch yet again (like he did last year against Miami???

misterearl wrote:There is so much to take away from tonight. A series win that might just put an end for the decade in the Isiah desert once and for all. The end of the Celtics dynasty, with the real possibility that Pierce and Kevin Garnett might never play together again. Carmelo Anthony reaching the second round for the second time in his career. A semifinals matchup that looks potentially enticing, and winnable. The Knicks reaching a point they haven't hit in more than a decade directly after their most divisive offseason in memory. But right now, let's all just revel in it. The Knicks just won a playoff series. It has been so long. They're going to play the Indiana Pacers, with the winner heading to the conference finals. We'll deal with that later. The Knicks beat the Celtics and have advanced. Everybody drink. Everybody celebrate. Everybody exhale.

- Wil Leitch, NYMagazine

I agree but it's the way we lost those 25 points in 4 min. It was a complete meltdown when Melo came back in. Woody did nothing to stop the bleeding. He needed to put the right players out there. Hey Melo is my favorite player and Boston had it in for him. They wanted to hurt him. Woody made some big Mistakes and he is the one who tells the team to play ISO ball. I'm glad we won but I don't like how we won and the Heat will eat us alive on a mistake like that.

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Clean wrote:

nixluva wrote:YO not for nothing but Woody has to get his act together cuz his mistakes have been highly problematic. Not playing Prigs and allowing the Knicks to slow their game down to a crawl so that they lost all intensity made no sense. Woody seems not to realize his 2 top players are not playing well and Melo could be hurt. Woody should be making more use of the guys who are actually going well.

Now I see why the Hawks fired him even though they were a 50 win team.

This is the truly scary part of Woody as a coach. He does so good but then in the playoffs he has these mind numbingly bad stretches. He has to get his act together!!! Why NO PRIGS in the 4th? Why did they have to go away from Felton and force it to Melo every time down? Just so many things that drive you crazy. I'm glad they won, but this wasn't the best coaching performance at all.

Please stop..U are the biggest supporter of one of the worse coaches this organization has seen...When was the last time MDA made it to the second round...How many years has it been..Is it doable without Nash...So, silence and enjoy the win...

You take a shot at mda as a knick coach, means you were under a rock for his tenure

Who was under a rock?., me or u??..Name one time MDA overachieved with his roster..Just once...

Why the F are you guys bringing up MDA??? NO ONE EVEN MENTIONED HIM! This is about Woody who had one job to do and that was to make sure that his team played their style of ball, which is ball and player movement and NOT ISO which is playing into the Celtic's hands. The C's are the best defensive team against ISO in the league. WTF!!!

Once again we are ALL GLAD the team won, but you can't just ignore the way this team played and act like this was a clean win where the team was clicking on all cylinders!!!

When you spend 4 years praising and defending one of the worst coaches in the history of the franchise and then come out guns a blazin for the first coach to win a playoff series since JVg you have to expect a reaction.

MAn don't give me that ish. I've been playing and watching ball since the Knicks last won a title. I KNOW WTF i'm talking about. If i'm wrong about the mistakes this team made then point it out, but don't go into some crap about my support for MDA who wasn't even mentioned by me in any of my posts. I was making VALID points about mistakes MIKE WOODSON made that could easily have lost this game and then what would you be saying?

There's only one coach of this team and he hasn't had his team playing the right way for the majority of this series. They've only played good BB in spurts. He had a chance to have one complete game with the team up 20+ points and he didn't do it. Woody has to do a great job for this team to get to the finals. He can't make mistakes like he did in this series.

Have u ever had one complaint about MDA's coaching??

Yes I have had complaints about things MDA has done or not done, but why is that relevant to this current situation and why are you and others trying to make this about MDA? I'VE NEVER said that MDA was perfect and have stated his flaws as a coach many times. MDA is a system guy and not as good when he's forced to play a team that can't run his system. Thing is that he's shown himself to be great when you give him the tools he needs to succeed. They didn't do that in NY or LA. If you hire MDA you are doing so knowing he's a system guy.

Now the relevant issue is that Woody has made quite a few mistakes in the playoffs which is his biggest flaw. He's been great in the regular season and not as good in the playoffs. I just don't like some of the things I saw. Very happy we won, but this was much closer to a horrible collapse than it should've been. I'm looking forward to a better performance in the 2nd rd.

It's almost as if some of us are too happy we made it out of the 1st rd. The goal isn't to win the 1st rd. The goal is to make the ECF's and have a shot to make the finals. That's why i'm bashing Woody, cuz he's gonna have to be much better in order to get the the ECF's. Hopefully he's learned from this series.

Nix, we can take this up elsewhere as to what you have done to your rep blindly defending MDA over the years, and even now in LA...It rings hollow what you are saying about Woodson even if it's true..It comes across as you are still trying to defend MDA by hold Woodson accountable...Bickerstaff was doing a decent job with LA when MDA was hired and you were trying to give MDA credit for the minor success Bickerstaff had when MDA had not even started coaching yet...I can go on, but what's the point...