Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Let's all let Mike D'antoni waste another year for Knicks fans, players, management, and ownership. I think we all just need another season of offense being more important than defense.
so every thread you post to is about MDA? I am stopping this.
Martin, Taj Gibson is a very nice talented player, would MDA make use of Gibson or does he go the way of Anthony Randolph and Jordan Hill? My personal opinion is that Gibson rides the bench under MDA chalked up as a player who doesn't fit the system. Young player who has a lot to learn eventually ending up as trade fodder.
I don't recall MDA ever benching a player for not fitting the system. Both Moz and AR were benched because of poor performance at the beginning of the year. That time period followed by a very impressive 13 game win streak, and when you are in a win streak, you don't really change much, especially when there is pressure to make playoffs. Moz worked hard and came back to the rotation.
What is it about some players that you don't think they would fit his system (unless you want to site Marbury or Curry)? If anything, guys like Turiaf and Jefferies would be classic guys who would NOT fit his system - guys who are completely inept on the offensive end - but they played. Jefferies probably played too much.
Young guys who do not practice hard and do not try to play within the system the coach outlines should not and do not make any coaches rotation. I could easily say that about Phil Jackson, Riley, JVG, Pop, Hollins, Brooks. Same with elite college coaches.
You can point to teams like Twolves and Golden State and AR all you want, but they are also in a different position than teams that are both trying to make the playoffs and want to impose some sort of environment that does not involve a sense of entitlement by the player.
Other than the fact that Taj is a big, why wouldn't he play with MDA? The guy is quick, has some sort of jumpshot and hustles. He is exactly what Turiaf is but more offensive minded.
That is where you are correct yet wrong. MDA would give Taj Gibson a chance but he will sour on him because he is a young player instead of grooming him he would throw him to the bench. You say Moz worked himself back into the rotation Martin if it weren't for injuries Moz wouldn't have gotten off the bench it was purely out of necessity that MDA used him and sure enough Moz show offensive prowess.
in every post you make it about what you think MDA would do, not what he did do. How do you know that Taj would not have been played exactly like Chandler, Gallo, Fields? Young guys who played at every chance they got, through good play and bad? What separate Taj from Fields?
For a long time before Moz came back MDA stressed through media that he thought his Center was nearly ready. Great, so when is the magical time you make the switch? Randomly? Losing streak? Injury?
MDA has a history of using vets - especially ones that have solidified their playing time - long past their due to give them a chance to play. Duhon, JJ, Turiaf, Mason, Larry Hughes. I think the key is playing/practicing hard and he will give you a chance; be ready at any time. Agree with it or disagree, I think vets appreciate it and it should make young guys even hungrier to get playing time (opposite of what AR was doing).
You agreed with Crush on a previous example when he showed how Aaron Gray got playing time in the Lakers-NO series... except you didn't point out to him that Gray only got minutes cause West went down, only played 24 games during season first season, 45+ during next, etc, etc.
Knicks were in an unenviable position this season. Lots of young players, need to make playoffs. They played like crap coming out the gate. Got back in line. It's a balance of winning vs developing youthier players.