Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by attaboy2005:

He had Marbury frustrated all nite with his Defense, Ridnour can play but he is still young, since he made some key mistakes in the Second Half, but he is a good one!.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Sonics were double-teaming Marbury all night at the top of the perimeter because Luke couldn't handle him one on one.

Posted by McK1:

HATERS

give the man his due. The play where he broke up Nate the Great's fast break, 2 charges drawn on Steph, he finds the shooters in rhthym. Its not his fault Ray didn't feelk like passing once he got the ball tonight.

Posted by McK1:

Jackie Butler did a great job as well.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by McK1:

HATERS

give the man his due. The play where he broke up Nate the Great's fast break, 2 charges drawn on Steph, he finds the shooters in rhthym. Its not his fault Ray didn't feelk like passing once he got the ball tonight.

I'm not hating on the guy, I just think he's a average player, he's a pretty good point-guard but fact is, he's surrounded by alot of good-shooters who shoot at a very high percentage. I'm not gonna go nuts over the guy. I'll throw you a bone about hitting the guys in rhythym but other then that, I didn't see anything THAT special that would make me want to go out and get the guy.

You weren't looking then.

He kept Steph frustrated all night. They were in a zone but a guy has to know his coverage responsibilities in that zone for it to be effective, which it was. He fights over screens. He switches. He rotates down when the ball is entered into the paint and runs back out on his assignment.

He does a lot of savvy things like when he was yelling and being overly demonstrating in the direction of the ref when Antonio was holding him on the screen to draw the offensive.

He pushes the ball into the frontcourt and initiates the offense early.

He hits his free throws at +90%

Lot of good things to build on when you are talking about a guy who is in his 3rd year and his second starting at point.

Steph hit a great shot over him at the end. To Ridnour's credit, it was a 22 footer and he did challenge it.

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-07-2005 01:08 AM]

Posted by McK1:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by McK1:

HATERS

give the man his due. The play where he broke up Nate the Great's fast break, 2 charges drawn on Steph, he finds the shooters in rhthym. Its not his fault Ray didn't feelk like passing once he got the ball tonight.

I'm not hating on the guy, I just think he's a average player, he's a pretty good point-guard but fact is, he's surrounded by alot of good-shooters who shoot at a very high percentage. I'm not gonna go nuts over the guy. I'll throw you a bone about hitting the guys in rhythym but other then that, I didn't see anything THAT special that would make me want to go out and get the guy.

You weren't looking then.

He kept Steph frustrated all night. They were in a zone but a guy has to know his coverage responsibilities in that zone for it to be effective, which it was. He fights over screens. He switches. He rotates down when the ball is entered into the paint and runs back out on his assignment.

He does a lot of savvy things like when he was yelling and being overly demonstrating in the direction of the ref when Antonio was holding him on the screen to draw the offensive.

He pushes the ball into the frontcourt and initiates the offense early.

He hits his free throws at +90%

Lot of good things to build on when you are talking about a guy who is in his 3rd year and his second starting at point.

Steph hit a great shot over him at the end. To Ridnour's credit, it was a 22 footer and he did challenge it.

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-07-2005 01:08 AM]

LOL, man. Steph missed a wide open shot before that, was the wide open shot all part of Ridnour's plan? Maybe he should have left him wide open on the last shot, too. And was Ridnour finding Ray Allen in rhythm tonight? Why did Ray shoot 9 for 27? If Ray shot 20 for 27 and Ridnour collected 11 more assists on jumpers would we be hearing about his exceptional playmaking?

Look, Marbury is learning that he has to defer to Frye and Crawford. He's learning to pick his spots. But there's no arguing that Marbury is superior to Ridnour. Even a Sonics fan came on and said with Marbury the Sonics would be a 60 win team. You'd have a far stronger case arguing Delonte West over Ridnour, IMHO.

Marbury v. Ridnour aside, awesome game from Craw. Frye is solid, solid, solid and NEEDS to start. So does Craw. So does Ariza. I can't believe most Knicks fans realize we should start Marbury, Craw, Ariza, Frye, Curry. Hell, even Sports Guy realizes this. This team will not be more than a .500 squad until we figure out how to play Curry and Frye together. The best time to learn to play together now that the season has started would be the first quarter, when it's easiest to run set plays.

AD sucks. He's a pathetic shell of the player he once was. I can barely watch him out there. Please, Zeke, take him away from Larry. I don't think this is a matter of showcasing vets for a trade. I think Larry truly believes the kids aren't ready. Granted, AD did control Penny's deflection and contest Allen's last three, so maybe there is something to the composure thing, but I don't see many rooks more composed than Frye.

And where the hell is David Lee, dammit? Still our leading rebounder per minute.

Posted by martin:

Penny was rusty, but anyone like his play?