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dk7th
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5/1/2013  1:55 PM
tkf wrote:
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gunsnewing wrote:Del Negro is a goner. This is why I was never sold on the Clips despite them spanking us. The dont play winning playoff ball. Blake is not good enough. Memphis can legitimally make it all the way to the finals. Think as a knick fan i rather play okc or san antonio


WELL who does in your opinion guns? The clippers are pretty much a young team,. I mean their core is.. they are playing a very good memphis team, both teams are very different, but equally matched. I said this before that blake griffin has to add more to his game than just jumping over everyone, I said this from day one... He has the time to do this, kid is still very young, as is jordan, it is a progression, heck after 10 seasons, knicks fans are hoping certain player will change as well..

I would not change much with the clippers if they lose this series, the grizz are very good... no shame in losing to them...

If Clips lose, any chance they take a flyer on Phil Jackson? He will be in LA and Clips have all the parts.

good point..

they don't have the parts to run the triangle offense.

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5/1/2013  2:10 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:If you are Chris Paul and lose this series, why would you re up with LA in the off season?

I read somewhere that aparantly Griffin and Deandre Jordan have started tiring of CP3s heavy handed 'leadership' approach- guess he's (rightly) constantly critical of them.

Still, he can chose which coach he wants- Del Negro has to go, he's awful- what other coach jumps out at the opposing teams 3pt shooter to try and scare them?!

I'd be suspicious if I were CP3- can you really trust the clippers to make the right moves in the years ahead?

But then again, where could be go that has a better team in place and can pay him the max? Rockets? Also I think superstars kind of lessen their 'brand' or image if they keep changing team.

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5/1/2013  2:39 PM
smackeddog wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you are Chris Paul and lose this series, why would you re up with LA in the off season?

I read somewhere that aparantly Griffin and Deandre Jordan have started tiring of CP3s heavy handed 'leadership' approach- guess he's (rightly) constantly critical of them.

Still, he can chose which coach he wants- Del Negro has to go, he's awful- what other coach jumps out at the opposing teams 3pt shooter to try and scare them?!

I'd be suspicious if I were CP3- can you really trust the clippers to make the right moves in the years ahead?

But then again, where could be go that has a better team in place and can pay him the max? Rockets? Also I think superstars kind of lessen their 'brand' or image if they keep changing team.


If there's a serious conflict between CP3 and Griffin and Jordan, LAC should promise CP3 that they'll trade the latter two.
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5/1/2013  2:41 PM
Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

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5/1/2013  3:40 PM
smackeddog wrote:Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

That IS weird, tore my ACL and have been around a lot of athletes who have done the same and I've never heard of this.

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5/1/2013  3:44 PM
dk7th wrote:
tkf wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Del Negro is a goner. This is why I was never sold on the Clips despite them spanking us. The dont play winning playoff ball. Blake is not good enough. Memphis can legitimally make it all the way to the finals. Think as a knick fan i rather play okc or san antonio


WELL who does in your opinion guns? The clippers are pretty much a young team,. I mean their core is.. they are playing a very good memphis team, both teams are very different, but equally matched. I said this before that blake griffin has to add more to his game than just jumping over everyone, I said this from day one... He has the time to do this, kid is still very young, as is jordan, it is a progression, heck after 10 seasons, knicks fans are hoping certain player will change as well..

I would not change much with the clippers if they lose this series, the grizz are very good... no shame in losing to them...

If Clips lose, any chance they take a flyer on Phil Jackson? He will be in LA and Clips have all the parts.

good point..

they don't have the parts to run the triangle offense.


I suspect phil will adjust a bit..

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5/1/2013  3:52 PM
Gallo's had trouble with that knee, since he was in NY. Maybe there are some other issues with his knee (or his left leg in general) that we don't know about. Enough to warrant spacing out the surgery. Or it might have been his decision for some other reason outside of bball.
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5/1/2013  3:55 PM
smackeddog wrote:Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

I think the Knugg's don't have a "go to surgeon" so they have to operate via the depth on the hospital roster. really quite effective actually!

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5/1/2013  3:57 PM
Hopefully LA is willing to take Tyson Chandler off our hands for Deandre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe. A back court of Bledsoe and Shumpert would be beastly on defense.
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5/1/2013  3:59 PM
tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:
tkf wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Del Negro is a goner. This is why I was never sold on the Clips despite them spanking us. The dont play winning playoff ball. Blake is not good enough. Memphis can legitimally make it all the way to the finals. Think as a knick fan i rather play okc or san antonio


WELL who does in your opinion guns? The clippers are pretty much a young team,. I mean their core is.. they are playing a very good memphis team, both teams are very different, but equally matched. I said this before that blake griffin has to add more to his game than just jumping over everyone, I said this from day one... He has the time to do this, kid is still very young, as is jordan, it is a progression, heck after 10 seasons, knicks fans are hoping certain player will change as well..

I would not change much with the clippers if they lose this series, the grizz are very good... no shame in losing to them...

If Clips lose, any chance they take a flyer on Phil Jackson? He will be in LA and Clips have all the parts.

good point..

they don't have the parts to run the triangle offense.


I suspect phil will adjust a bit..

If phil don't have Kobe or Michael, then he don't have the parts??

Kobe and Michael were all star players, but the triangle via Phil made them HOF multiple bling legends!

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5/1/2013  4:02 PM
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

I think the Knugg's don't have a "go to surgeon" so they have to operate via the depth on the hospital roster. really quite effective actually!

Gallo can't afford Dr. James Andrews??? Dude's the best in the business! If I'm a high profile athlete or athletic trainer, I have him on speed dial.

Doesn't Gallo make like $10-$11 mill a year?

Dumbass.

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5/1/2013  4:15 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Del Negro is a goner. This is why I was never sold on the Clips despite them spanking us. The dont play winning playoff ball. Blake is not good enough. Memphis can legitimally make it all the way to the finals. Think as a knick fan i rather play okc or san antonio


WELL who does in your opinion guns? The clippers are pretty much a young team,. I mean their core is.. they are playing a very good memphis team, both teams are very different, but equally matched. I said this before that blake griffin has to add more to his game than just jumping over everyone, I said this from day one... He has the time to do this, kid is still very young, as is jordan, it is a progression, heck after 10 seasons, knicks fans are hoping certain player will change as well..

I would not change much with the clippers if they lose this series, the grizz are very good... no shame in losing to them...

They do need to make changes. Clipper minus Chris Paul couldnt even make the playoffs. Chris Paul has knee issues and he isn't getting any younger. I expect changes in their front court since Jordan nor Blake can make a dam free throw.

They need an upgrade at the 2 and 3 spots. Billups and Butler are pretty much done....

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5/1/2013  4:27 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

I think the Knugg's don't have a "go to surgeon" so they have to operate via the depth on the hospital roster. really quite effective actually!

Gallo can't afford Dr. James Andrews??? Dude's the best in the business! If I'm a high profile athlete or athletic trainer, I have him on speed dial.

Doesn't Gallo make like $10-$11 mill a year?

Dumbass.

Seriously, you know which procedure and how it should be done? The rep of the doc he is using?

Look up Dr Richard steadman. This guy has a great rep. If you need a starphuch reference, Kobe used this guy 9 years ago, which is why he was in Vail.

I don't think its money. Guy is also near Denver.

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5/1/2013  4:36 PM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

I think the Knugg's don't have a "go to surgeon" so they have to operate via the depth on the hospital roster. really quite effective actually!

Gallo can't afford Dr. James Andrews??? Dude's the best in the business! If I'm a high profile athlete or athletic trainer, I have him on speed dial.

Doesn't Gallo make like $10-$11 mill a year?

Dumbass.

Seriously, you know which procedure and how it should be done? The rep of the doc he is using?

Look up Dr Richard steadman. This guy has a great rep. If you need a starphuch reference, Kobe used this guy 9 years ago, which is why he was in Vail.

I don't think its money. Guy is also near Denver.

Ehh, I'd want the guy that allowed Adrian Peterson to have arguably the greatest running back season in history, less than 1 year removed from tearing up his knee.

He also has RGIII on pace to start the season after operating.

He allowed Chad Pennington to win comeback player of the year.

Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Brett Favre, Jack Nicklaus, Roger Clemens, Drew Brees

All of these athletes were patients of his, and they excelled or gotten better after surgery.

If I were Gallo, I'd want to jump on his operating table, and I'd jump on it yesterday.

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5/1/2013  4:59 PM
smackeddog wrote:Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

According to some literature....

meniscus repairs done concurrently with ACL reconstruction have higher rates of repeat surgery.

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5/1/2013  5:01 PM
Interesting. I guess he's gotta get by with a torn ACL for a while until he's knee is ready for the ACL surgery. That doesn't sound pleasant.
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5/1/2013  6:43 PM
Nalod wrote:
tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:
tkf wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Del Negro is a goner. This is why I was never sold on the Clips despite them spanking us. The dont play winning playoff ball. Blake is not good enough. Memphis can legitimally make it all the way to the finals. Think as a knick fan i rather play okc or san antonio


WELL who does in your opinion guns? The clippers are pretty much a young team,. I mean their core is.. they are playing a very good memphis team, both teams are very different, but equally matched. I said this before that blake griffin has to add more to his game than just jumping over everyone, I said this from day one... He has the time to do this, kid is still very young, as is jordan, it is a progression, heck after 10 seasons, knicks fans are hoping certain player will change as well..

I would not change much with the clippers if they lose this series, the grizz are very good... no shame in losing to them...

If Clips lose, any chance they take a flyer on Phil Jackson? He will be in LA and Clips have all the parts.

good point..

they don't have the parts to run the triangle offense.


I suspect phil will adjust a bit..

If phil don't have Kobe or Michael, then he don't have the parts??

Kobe and Michael were all star players, but the triangle via Phil made them HOF multiple bling legends!

THATS true, i think the clips have pieces and if phil has to adjust a bit, it will work..

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5/1/2013  6:46 PM
Andrew wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

According to some literature....

meniscus repairs done concurrently with ACL reconstruction have higher rates of repeat surgery.

link


good find andrew.....seems like they are trying to make sure that knee is as strong as possible.....

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5/1/2013  6:53 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Has anyone heard of an ACL tear being treated this way before?

Danilo Gallinari underwent surgery to repair meniscus in his left knee on Monday and will undergo an additional procedure at a later date to fix his ACL.

Gallinari will undergo rehab on his knee before a date is scheduled to repair his ACL.

Gallinari was hurt on April 4.

What's the logic behind it? Think Shump had both done at the same time, while Rose had his op put off for a few weeks until the swelling went down and he'd done some rehab. Never heard of them fixing the meniscus and the. Leaving the ACL til a few weeks later.

I think the Knugg's don't have a "go to surgeon" so they have to operate via the depth on the hospital roster. really quite effective actually!

Gallo can't afford Dr. James Andrews??? Dude's the best in the business! If I'm a high profile athlete or athletic trainer, I have him on speed dial.

Doesn't Gallo make like $10-$11 mill a year?

Dumbass.

Seriously, you know which procedure and how it should be done? The rep of the doc he is using?

Look up Dr Richard steadman. This guy has a great rep. If you need a starphuch reference, Kobe used this guy 9 years ago, which is why he was in Vail.

I don't think its money. Guy is also near Denver.

Ehh, I'd want the guy that allowed Adrian Peterson to have arguably the greatest running back season in history, less than 1 year removed from tearing up his knee.

He also has RGIII on pace to start the season after operating.

He allowed Chad Pennington to win comeback player of the year.

Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Brett Favre, Jack Nicklaus, Roger Clemens, Drew Brees

All of these athletes were patients of his, and they excelled or gotten better after surgery.

If I were Gallo, I'd want to jump on his operating table, and I'd jump on it yesterday.


might want to do some research on this steadman guy, he is great at what he does as well and has an impressive patient list as well..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/1/2013  11:10 PM
OKC is playing like the Knicks tonight so far. Lin out again. Beverly looks like a keeper.
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