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mreinman
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11/11/2015  9:31 PM
this one is hard to stomach. That ISO melo play will be tough to swallow. How could he even think that was a good shot?? after all these years?
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/11/2015  9:31 PM
Still some good things from this game.

Aflalo looked good for his first game, and Calderon's shot was good for much of the night.

Some things to build on in this loss, and maybe KP gets his offensive groove back.

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11/11/2015  9:31 PM
I freeze framed it- the ball is still touching his hand once the light is on.
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11/11/2015  9:31 PM
How can anyone blame Carmelo for the Zeller play? RoLo lost Zeller for a split second and he made us pay
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
mreinman
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11/11/2015  9:32 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:How can anyone blame Carmelo for the Zeller play? RoLo lost Zeller for a split second and he made us pay

no! again, rolo helped on lin who ran lose twice.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/11/2015  9:32 PM
Also we should have had point 3 more sec sellers ball went in at .09
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11/11/2015  9:32 PM
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11/11/2015  9:33 PM
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mreinman wrote:wasnt't that a rally quick call on the replay for a game winner?

Yeah. I thought it was out of Porzingis's hand when the light went on. I would think you would have to study it a bit to come up with the conclusion that the shot was no good.

I think Kenny said the call came from the guys in Jersey so maybe they were all on it as soon as the play happened and the ref got word while he was watching.
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11/11/2015  9:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/11/2015  9:34 PM
Hahn might be right. The refs should stop the clock after it clears the net. There should've been 0.8 tenths. I felt like there was more time than .6 Dammit!!!

Then again he also right that the Knicks fn blew it

mreinman
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11/11/2015  9:33 PM
KP should never have taken that shot.

it should have been a 14 footer where he belongs.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/11/2015  9:34 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Also we should have had point 3 more sec sellers ball went in at .09

There saying .08

mreinman
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11/11/2015  9:34 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Hahn might be right. The refs should stop the clock after it clears the net. There should've been 0.8 tenths left not 0.6 dammit!!!

Then again he also right that the Knicks fn blew it

and melo stepped out of bounds last night.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/11/2015  9:34 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Also we should have had point 3 more sec sellers ball went in at .09

Yeah, that's the homecourt advantage right there. The official tried to run the clock down to .4 seconds, but the officials put it back to .6sec.

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11/11/2015  9:34 PM
mreinman wrote:this one is hard to stomach. That ISO melo play will be tough to swallow. How could he even think that was a good shot?? after all these years?

Every Knicks coach in recent history had turned the iso ______ (insert best scorer) on the last possession.

Before Melo it was Jamal Crawford. Before Crawford it was..Marbury I think.

I have no problem with your best shooter taking the last shot but I don't understand why we can't have Melo run off a double screen or an elevator screen (two bigs closing like elevator doors on Melo's defender).

I would prefer ANYTHING to simply tossing the ball to Melo and asking him to create against the other team's best defender + the other 4 defenders.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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11/11/2015  9:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/11/2015  9:35 PM
What kind of call is that for Melo after a time out???..No screens, no cuts, no back screen..Just Melo with the ball beyond the three??..Really??
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11/11/2015  9:35 PM
We got SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!

Alan Hahn is saying we got screwed not on the Porz shot, but on the Zeller go ahead shot. Clock was allowed to run off 2 tenths after shot went through the hoop. Knicks and Porz should have had .8, not .6.

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11/11/2015  9:35 PM
So the call should be overturned ... Knicks should protest
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11/11/2015  9:35 PM
also, on the LT deflection out of bounds, only .7 seconds went off. How is that possible?
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11/11/2015  9:35 PM
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Hahn might be right. The refs should stop the clock after it clears the net. There should've been 0.8 tenths left not 0.6 dammit!!!

Then again he also right that the Knicks fn blew it

and melo stepped out of bounds last night.

True - the Knicks got a split of tough calls. If both had gone against them, it'd be a rough doubleheader. They got a split.

Feels like they gave this one away by letting a ten point lead slip away though. Can't be made about the end of the 4th - it was the start of the 4th that killed us.

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11/11/2015  9:36 PM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
mreinman wrote:this one is hard to stomach. That ISO melo play will be tough to swallow. How could he even think that was a good shot?? after all these years?

Every Knicks coach in recent history had turned the iso ______ (insert best scorer) on the last possession.

Before Melo it was Jamal Crawford. Before Crawford it was..Marbury I think.

I have no problem with your best shooter taking the last shot but I don't understand why we can't have Melo run off a double screen or an elevator screen (two bigs closing like elevator doors on Melo's defender).

I would prefer ANYTHING to simply tossing the ball to Melo and asking him to create against the other team's best defender + the other 4 defenders.


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