GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

nixluva wrote:Indy got their energy up at home. It happens! The thing I see is that we really miss Jared. We still need another defensive big besides Tyson. When Tyson has to help so much it takes him away from the basket and the other team gets rebounds. That is a very important factor. Not having Jared or even STAT does make us vulnerable on the glass in certain situations.

def. are missing Jefferies

and Lin
and Stat

Clean wrote:

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Clean wrote:

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Clean wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

tkf wrote:this is what happens when you play iso ball

We have 104 points and they have 110 when we've been giving up 85 and you think the problem today was offense/Iso Ball??

Yes in the 4th offense was the problem.

LOL..we gave up 40 points in the 4th quarter..31 in the first...112 pts in the game. Wow..you guys really loved Dantoni.

You act like you've never seen 17 pt quarters in the Dantoni era...Defense, Baron Davis & 2nd Chance Pts. is what killed us this game. Add to that that stretch with 2nd unit when Pacers cut lead down within one minute.

I never said anything about MDA. All I want is a balanced offense. I understand milking ISO melo when he is hot but to do it for the whole game? People need to be in a rhythm. You can't call standing by the 3point line getting in a rhythm.

that has nothing to do with giving up 112 points. It's simple. Knicks give up their season average and this is a win point blank. A Blowout most likely. Defense was the issue.

Maybe you think I am saying that offense was the only problem. I am not saying that I am just stating my problem with the off Woody is running.

Watching the game I don't understand how "Iso Melo" could be seen as the problem. Those were the most efficient plays tonight. Baron creating stunk. they took away Chandler's roll on pick and rolls. they really didnt' double so that didn't leave anyone open. When Melo sat did you see how bad the offense looked when running motion?

Everything was gravy until the 2nd unit messed up the mojo with lazy defense and got the Pacers going.

RoyBatty wrote:Woodson nailed it in the interview on what was also wrong with the offense. He said it was too slow moving the ball up the court.

LOL he said maybe it was fatigue. I think its called ancient PGs.

nixluva wrote:Indy got their energy up at home. It happens! The thing I see is that we really miss Jared. We still need another defensive big besides Tyson. When Tyson has to help so much it takes him away from the basket and the other team gets rebounds. That is a very important factor. Not having Jared or even STAT does make us vulnerable on the glass in certain situations.

How can you not be rageously furious (yes, rageously!) after that 4th quarter and can simply say Indy got their energy up and that happens is beyond me! Yes, we simply lost because we didn't have Jared. While I agree Jared would've helped, the truth is this team had a big double digit lead they HAD TO TAKE CARE OF. HORRIBLE PG PLAY, INDECENT DEFENSE AND YOU GET BLOWN OUT IN THE FREAKING FOURTH QUARTER??? WE LOST THE FOURTH BY 23 PTS!!!! 23!!!!!!!!!

This team needs to go on a winning streak only to recover from this STINKING loss. With Orlando, Bulls twice and the blood-smelling Bucks next, we could be out of the playoffs as fast as we lost this game. If you can't see how horrible this loss is you are delusional.

HugeKnick4 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:I would love to somehow meet Indy in the playoffs. Not likely...but damn...

Right now, be happy making the playoffs. This team can lose the 8th spot as quickly as they lost this game in the fourth.

Mark my words...the Knick playoff chances are in serious jeopardy.

I seriously fear we won't make it. Im afraid management won't add a PG, therefore remaining with the PG rotation we currently have. Melo will try his hardest, but by the time Amar'e comes back, it may be too late. The Bucks are taking care of the easy games they have. We play Orlando, twice vs. Bulls and then the hungry Bucks. If we quit as we did tonight, we will be in a big hole pretty soon.

nixluva wrote:
I think that not having Jared or STAT made us vulnerable inside cuz Tyson has to give too much help and can't cover the glass as much as he needs to. This led to 2nd chances for the pacers. They didn't score as easily against out set D. It was the 2nd chances that killed us.

Definitely. You can tell Tyson looked drained coming in the 4th quarter when he's strolling down the field. We didn't have enough defense but I still think we could've done a decent job if other players at least tried hard on pressure. Too many open shots for Pacers and they stole a bunch of balls and offensive rebounds while we just stood there, defeated.

Clean wrote:

RoyBatty wrote:Woodson nailed it in the interview on what was also wrong with the offense. He said it was too slow moving the ball up the court.

LOL he said maybe it was fatigue. I think its called ancient PGs.

But we are fine with our Jurassic Park PG rotation.