crzymdups wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:Fun game to watch, and it might also introduce a bit of insecurity into the egos and self-esteem of Wade and James. Good to see those two humbled a bit.

Hate to say this though- it is only one game, and we have a game with Orlando which might arguably be more important in terms of telling us where this team is going.

We seemed to play this game like the fate of the franchise depended on a victory. Can we do this on a continual basis, or will we look like we did against Cleveland the other day. You can't show this kind of defensive intensity one game, and then slack off the next 2 or 3.

By the way, the block by Amare only emphasizes the interest which Briggs (and others) had/has in getting a 5 who can give us some defense in the middle. The play might have ended up like the Jamison drives to the hoop the other day, with Anthony backing up and making no attempt to impede the progress of the guy he was defending,(In this case the lack of contact might have helped because we all know that if anyone even touches James on his way to the hoop he gets the call,) but unlike Cleveland, he had some good help down low and Amare blocked the shot, reminiscent of the beginning of the year when we seemed to be more aggressive as shot blockers.

Some folks have to get a grip on reality and understand that consistency in purpose and effort is what separates the good teams from the very good teams. From what I just heard we will be getting enough rain tomorrow, so I don't want to rain on anyone's parade now, but even though this is a wonderful victory, it is only one victory- we did not win a title last night.

One more thing- this kind of effort will only be duplicated if MDA increases the number of guys he uses in his rotation. You cannot play like this with an 8 man rotation- you need about 10-11 in your rotation to keep guys fresh enough to play like this on a regular basis. It will be interesting to see what he now does. It would also be nice is Azubuike could somehow give us some decent minutes over the final part of the season.

100% agreed.

he played 11 guys tonight. anthony carter was fantastic. shawne williams and billy walker were great. balkman was solid. the bench had a big role.

Definately. Anthony Carter is definately the backup PG that we need. Now we just need a defensive center that rebounds.

knickstorrents wrote:
Landry Fields - where is he in the rotation??

I am afraid about this. Fields was perfect player to play with Gallo and The Mayor because of their passing abilities. In an iso-centric offense his skills does not translate. We will need a SG that can just basically spot up ala Steve Kerr and the Paxson brothers.

fishmike wrote: I hope we get Earl Barron even more... I was watching his video of that game vs/ Boston last year. I have no idea why he's not on an NBA team. Maybe he's a douche bag?

Good call Fish...I've looked at this video about 10 times myself over the last week...Dude can definitely help us..I'd prefer him 1000X over J. Jeffries..I just don't want Jeffires at all on this team..Gimmie a true Big man who can board, muscle up and actually shoot the rock like Barron ANY DAY over JJ..Interesting about him being a D-Bag...Hey, maybe man...Either that or he might be holding out for too much money (I've suspected that from the preseason)..If he's trying to hold the Knicks up for too much money, he's an idiot -- come on guy, how much money do you actually think you're gonna get for the last 20-something games of the season?? You're gonna get the same 10-day contract as anyone else would -- then it's up to you to earn a 2nd contract for the rest of the year...It's something, because the Knicks obviously need someone EXACTLY like him, I know they like him as a player AND he's had success here before..Everything seems to line up perfectly yet he's not in a Knick uniform..Why is that?? He can play...We don't need a star at the 5 to go along with Amar'e & Melo...In fact, I'd prefer the player not to be a star..Just a good support player that's big enough & pretty good at his craft. From his 1st go-around here, we already know Barron fits the bill..

My order of bigs to bring in:
Marcus Cousin
Troy Murphy
Earl Barron

All 3 would be great for what we need..All 3 are big enough to play 5 and can rebound. Plus all 3 can shoot the ball and not embarrass themselves offensively..Please get it done Donnie -- we need one of the 3. The Heat are going with Erick Dampier/Joel Anthony at C --- Cousin, Murphy or Barron are all a step up from those two in my view.

NYKBocker wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

martin wrote:

I'll probably watch that half a dozen more times before the nights over, but @ LeBron crying for the foul. He got his star treatment the drive before this and absolutely shocked they didn't pamper him to decide the game.

If they had called a foul on that one the NBA would have to do another investigation. Melo was backing up in fear that the ref would call a foul, and I think that James did not expect this. Nice to see him posterized.

(Actually, I just watched the play about 5-6 times- Anthony might have actually got him on the left arm and he was reaching across- did not see this at first. Somewhat obvious at the :19 mark of the video- the ball is in left hand as he is hit.) Just makes it more satisfying, though, since they had missed a number of fouls committed against us, especially a play where Amare was fouled twice on a play where he did manage to make the basket.

The funniest/most amazing play of the night was earlier in the game where James must have taken 4-6 steps on that strange play where he through the ball at the backboard, and actually had the balls to put up some kind of argument about what he had just done.

The mere fact that he would argue over something like that tells you how many calls he gets in his favor on a regular basis.

Actually, I thought it was a good move having Melo guard LeDouche. If it was Walker or Williams guarding LeDouche then you know they were calling a foul on that drive. The refs did not want to call a foul on a superstar unless he is clearly mugging the douche.

I did not think to look at it that way, but I believe there is some truth to what you say. Puts us on an equal footing in some ways.

Paladin55 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

martin wrote:

I'll probably watch that half a dozen more times before the nights over, but @ LeBron crying for the foul. He got his star treatment the drive before this and absolutely shocked they didn't pamper him to decide the game.

If they had called a foul on that one the NBA would have to do another investigation. Melo was backing up in fear that the ref would call a foul, and I think that James did not expect this. Nice to see him posterized.

(Actually, I just watched the play about 5-6 times- Anthony might have actually got him on the left arm and he was reaching across- did not see this at first. Somewhat obvious at the :19 mark of the video- the ball is in left hand as he is hit.) Just makes it more satisfying, though, since they had missed a number of fouls committed against us, especially a play where Amare was fouled twice on a play where he did manage to make the basket.

The funniest/most amazing play of the night was earlier in the game where James must have taken 4-6 steps on that strange play where he through the ball at the backboard, and actually had the balls to put up some kind of argument about what he had just done.

The mere fact that he would argue over something like that tells you how many calls he gets in his favor on a regular basis.

Actually, I thought it was a good move having Melo guard LeDouche. If it was Walker or Williams guarding LeDouche then you know they were calling a foul on that drive. The refs did not want to call a foul on a superstar unless he is clearly mugging the douche.

I did not think to look at it that way, but I believe there is some truth to what you say. Puts us on an equal footing in some ways.

That was also very good defense on Melo's part. Melo beat LeDouche to his preferred launching spot and made him jump on the wrong foot. This enabled Amare to posterize LeDouche. Great play from both players. Actuall, we have to count Shawne in that play too. Williams rotated also and when he saw Amare rise, Shawne boxed out and corraled the loose ball.

EDIT: I watched the MSG feed with Clyde but listening to Hubie with that call made me feel like I should have switched back and forth in the telecast. I love Hubie.

Paladin55 wrote:

tkf wrote:Huge win..

Thank god for Billups..

Amare was efficient..

Great game for melo..

Walker stepped up huge!!!!

How about Anthony Carter- he's a tough old SOB.

yup, props to the older cats like AC and Billups who's still hungry to play basketball. yeah man, AC is a pitbull...

scoshin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:
Landry Fields - where is he in the rotation??

I am afraid about this. Fields was perfect player to play with Gallo and The Mayor because of their passing abilities. In an iso-centric offense his skills does not translate. We will need a SG that can just basically spot up ala Steve Kerr and the Paxson brothers.

Another good point. If Azubuike can somehow rise from the dead and look like he did before his injury, you could see him pushing Fields for time and we might see Landry playing at bit at the 3 position.

Way too early to make a judgment that Fields doesn't fit. Give Melo and Billups time to find out where Fields usually goes, and I'm sure they'll find him more often. People underrate Melo's passing ability. You also have to account for the fact that Miami is one of the better teams at closing out 3-pt shooters. I don't think any shooter, Williams included, really got a good wide open look.

I am watching the encore now, as usual and Landry has been open numerous times just moving without the ball. I am not sure if Melo trusts him or if he does not like him. I get this vibe that Melo does not like Fields. I think Melo is a very good passer. He just needs another SG with different skillset that Fields brings. Fields cuts a lot and is always moving without the ball. This does not bode well for a player like Melo who likes to post up and go iso. Landry will just bring his defender to Melo's path.

tkf wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

scoshin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:
Landry Fields - where is he in the rotation??

I am afraid about this. Fields was perfect player to play with Gallo and The Mayor because of their passing abilities. In an iso-centric offense his skills does not translate. We will need a SG that can just basically spot up ala Steve Kerr and the Paxson brothers.

Another good point. If Azubuike can somehow rise from the dead and look like he did before his injury, you could see him pushing Fields for time and we might see Landry playing at bit at the 3 position.

Way too early to make a judgment that Fields doesn't fit. Give Melo and Billups time to find out where Fields usually goes, and I'm sure they'll find him more often. People underrate Melo's passing ability. You also have to account for the fact that Miami is one of the better teams at closing out 3-pt shooters. I don't think any shooter, Williams included, really got a good wide open look.

I am watching the encore now, as usual and Landry has been open numerous times just moving without the ball. I am not sure if Melo trusts him or if he does not like him. I get this vibe that Melo does not like Fields. I think Melo is a very good passer. He just needs another SG with different skillset that Fields brings. Fields cuts a lot and is always moving without the ball. This does not bode well for a player like Melo who likes to post up and go iso. Landry will just bring his defender to Melo's path.

I wonder how OJ mayo would look in this lineup..

Aside from what people have posted here and what I have seen in clips I really don't know much about Mayo. Is he a good outside shooter?

Paladin55 wrote:

rp wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

nixluva wrote:I just hope that the few guys who have practically reveled in our bad game will layoff the over the top attacks and allow this thing to play out. Having STAT, Melo and Billups is a definite plus. The more they play together and gain chemistry and confidence the better. ALL NY Knicks fans should be happy about this new team. How many years have we wanted to be a team with Stars all NBA fans respected and now we've got that kind of team.

All we ask. No more "there will be tons of losses" posts please guys. Pure Knicks love.

I will correct that, "there will be some losses" and people are entitled to their opinions as much as anyone else.

No. There will be NO more opinions... only conformity.

Join us of suffer the consequences.

Hahahaha, good one Paladin, you almost got me :).