Knicksfan wrote:Do we think that Kidd is an improvement over Thibs? I ask because I’m not sure…

Kind of funny that they are very similar in terms of philosophy. I heard the biggest complaints from Dallas fans was that Kidd doesn't use his bench, doesn't utilize the young players much and runs a heavy Iso offense.

SergioNYK wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Do we think that Kidd is an improvement over Thibs? I ask because I’m not sure…

Kind of funny that they are very similar in terms of philosophy. I heard the biggest complaints from Dallas fans was that Kidd doesn't use his bench, doesn't utilize the young players much and runs a heavy Iso offense.

DLeethal wrote:Yea I think more than any specific decision, or strategy, or XO's leading to Thibs' demise it was his stubbornness and off-putting nature making him a nightmare to work with. Clearly he had a similar fallout in CHI and MIN where the organization just couldn't stand him anymore. Apparently Leon was his only ally left in the organization - and when your main faults (stubbornness, refusal to change etc.) lead to a situation like we had in the playoffs where he is insisting on playing a lineup which all the long term data tells you is a loser, you rebuff the FO when they suggest a change, then you go and make the change out of desperation 3 games later, that will put the nail in the coffin for anyone who had already lost all of their support in the organization.

DLeethal wrote:Mavs will let Kidd interview

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Miriam Adelson doesn’t care. We probably don’t even need to offer draft picks just cash considerations alone gets it done.

GustavBahler wrote:First thing Kidd did after signing with the Knicks (as starting PG) was wrap his car around a tree.

Not saying he isn’t a good coach. I am saying that I’m not confident that Kidd will get everyone on the same page, or handle the pressure of coaching at MSG.

Also thought he shouldn’t have benched Hardaway for the playoffs, during their Finals run. That was a mistake. Don’t want to see players who can contribute, riding the bench. Had enough of that with Thibs.

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:First thing Kidd did after signing with the Knicks (as starting PG) was wrap his car around a tree.

Not saying he isn’t a good coach. I am saying that I’m not confident that Kidd will get everyone on the same page, or handle the pressure of coaching at MSG.

Also thought he shouldn’t have benched Hardaway for the playoffs, during their Finals run. That was a mistake. Don’t want to see players who can contribute, riding the bench. Had enough of that with Thibs.

To be fair, Hardaway played like crap for half the season.Cant really get on Kidd for that

Was the same deal with Rolando Blackman in 94’ THJ is a shooter, Kidd should have given him a shot. Played well in the postseason for Detroit.

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:First thing Kidd did after signing with the Knicks (as starting PG) was wrap his car around a tree.

Not saying he isn’t a good coach. I am saying that I’m not confident that Kidd will get everyone on the same page, or handle the pressure of coaching at MSG.

Also thought he shouldn’t have benched Hardaway for the playoffs, during their Finals run. That was a mistake. Don’t want to see players who can contribute, riding the bench. Had enough of that with Thibs.

Not sure how Kidd getting into a car accident 15 years ago is relevant. He’s been a good coach everywhere. Did a very underrated job in Milwaukee and got to a Finals with Dallas. He was good at MSG as a player and that’s after he was the second greatest New Jersey Nets ever for 7 years. Yes playing at the abandoned swamp in East Rutherford is obviously not the same as MSG but the Knicks were horrible at that time so the nets were the only show in town for nba during the early 2000’s Kidd was definitely in the spotlight.

It was relevant because he was drunk, it shows a lack of leadership. Something about playing in NY, different kind of pressure. Not so sure Kidd can handle it.

GustavBahler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:First thing Kidd did after signing with the Knicks (as starting PG) was wrap his car around a tree.

Not saying he isn’t a good coach. I am saying that I’m not confident that Kidd will get everyone on the same page, or handle the pressure of coaching at MSG.

Also thought he shouldn’t have benched Hardaway for the playoffs, during their Finals run. That was a mistake. Don’t want to see players who can contribute, riding the bench. Had enough of that with Thibs.

Not sure how Kidd getting into a car accident 15 years ago is relevant. He’s been a good coach everywhere. Did a very underrated job in Milwaukee and got to a Finals with Dallas. He was good at MSG as a player and that’s after he was the second greatest New Jersey Nets ever for 7 years. Yes playing at the abandoned swamp in East Rutherford is obviously not the same as MSG but the Knicks were horrible at that time so the nets were the only show in town for nba during the early 2000’s Kidd was definitely in the spotlight.

It was relevant because he was drunk, it shows a lack of leadership. Something about playing in NY, different kind of pressure. Not so sure Kidd can handle it.

And people change. Just because Kidd had an alcohol related incident 15 years doesn’t mean he can’t function as a coach clearly he has for 10+ years now.

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:First thing Kidd did after signing with the Knicks (as starting PG) was wrap his car around a tree.

Not saying he isn’t a good coach. I am saying that I’m not confident that Kidd will get everyone on the same page, or handle the pressure of coaching at MSG.

Also thought he shouldn’t have benched Hardaway for the playoffs, during their Finals run. That was a mistake. Don’t want to see players who can contribute, riding the bench. Had enough of that with Thibs.

Not sure how Kidd getting into a car accident 15 years ago is relevant. He’s been a good coach everywhere. Did a very underrated job in Milwaukee and got to a Finals with Dallas. He was good at MSG as a player and that’s after he was the second greatest New Jersey Nets ever for 7 years. Yes playing at the abandoned swamp in East Rutherford is obviously not the same as MSG but the Knicks were horrible at that time so the nets were the only show in town for nba during the early 2000’s Kidd was definitely in the spotlight.

It was relevant because he was drunk, it shows a lack of leadership. Something about playing in NY, different kind of pressure. Not so sure Kidd can handle it.

And people change. Just because Kidd had an alcohol related incident 15 years doesn’t mean he can’t function as a coach clearly he has for 10+ years now.

You’re right of course. People can change. Dont like the fact that it happened right after signing with the Knicks. Would rather sign a young assistant coach.

GustavBahler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:First thing Kidd did after signing with the Knicks (as starting PG) was wrap his car around a tree.

Not saying he isn’t a good coach. I am saying that I’m not confident that Kidd will get everyone on the same page, or handle the pressure of coaching at MSG.

Also thought he shouldn’t have benched Hardaway for the playoffs, during their Finals run. That was a mistake. Don’t want to see players who can contribute, riding the bench. Had enough of that with Thibs.

Not sure how Kidd getting into a car accident 15 years ago is relevant. He’s been a good coach everywhere. Did a very underrated job in Milwaukee and got to a Finals with Dallas. He was good at MSG as a player and that’s after he was the second greatest New Jersey Nets ever for 7 years. Yes playing at the abandoned swamp in East Rutherford is obviously not the same as MSG but the Knicks were horrible at that time so the nets were the only show in town for nba during the early 2000’s Kidd was definitely in the spotlight.

It was relevant because he was drunk, it shows a lack of leadership. Something about playing in NY, different kind of pressure. Not so sure Kidd can handle it.

And people change. Just because Kidd had an alcohol related incident 15 years doesn’t mean he can’t function as a coach clearly he has for 10+ years now.

You’re right of course. People can change. Dont like the fact that it happened right after signing with the Knicks. Would rather sign a young assistant coach.

DWI is the first thing I think of when I see Kidd.

He's a dumbass. But apparently a high functioning dumbass.

Additionally, Kidd focuses on developing his players both on and off the court, reflecting his deep understanding of the game gained from his own playing career. His methods aim to build a cohesive team capable of excelling on the court through effective communication and strong relationships.

Sounds exactly like the type of coach we need. Bright, innovative