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ToddTT
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10/25/2026  8:59 AM
Early voting has started, and I think is open on Sunday as well.
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10/25/2026  11:08 AM
BlueKnickers wrote:
ToddTT wrote:At this point, the #1 act of patriotism would be to vote.

Agreed

I look forward to the revelations of the upcoming investigations, especially those looking into DOGE. The gloves will be off

VOTE!!!!!

Democrats will be out for blood.
Issue I have with the far left is not my jam. Sure as hell the far right is not either.
The issue of affordablity is a massive issue for struggling voters.
Yet the problems at hand are not solved by Trumps transactional offerings ($5000, aid to states, etc). He has lost faith in his ablity to manage sanctions and tarrifs and the grift is in plain sight.
At the same time Democrats have no solid footing to fixing some core issues that appeal to those who voted for trump. Mainly taking repsonsablity to ones actions rather than blaming minorities who are making gaines in the world. Fox tell white voters "its not your fault you suck".

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10/25/2026  1:32 PM
ToddTT wrote:Early voting has started, and I think is open on Sunday as well.

Yep, just voted. Neither party is perfect, but go vote for the one that isn't ****ing evil.

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10/25/2026  3:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/25/2026  3:17 PM
Nalod wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
ToddTT wrote:At this point, the #1 act of patriotism would be to vote.

Agreed

I look forward to the revelations of the upcoming investigations, especially those looking into DOGE. The gloves will be off

VOTE!!!!!

Democrats will be out for blood.
Issue I have with the far left is not my jam. Sure as hell the far right is not either.
The issue of affordablity is a massive issue for struggling voters.
Yet the problems at hand are not solved by Trumps transactional offerings ($5000, aid to states, etc). He has lost faith in his ablity to manage sanctions and tarrifs and the grift is in plain sight.
At the same time Democrats have no solid footing to fixing some core issues that appeal to those who voted for trump. Mainly taking repsonsablity to ones actions rather than blaming minorities who are making gaines in the world. Fox tell white voters "its not your fault you suck".

Why are you invoking the far left at all?

It has absolutely nothing to do with the scale of corruption and fascistic brutality we're going to have to bring to accountability.

This meme that everyone hates the Democrats is lame consensus reality slop thinking.

The Democrats have a new generation of leadership rising rapidly into public prominence. Are you telling me a guy like Ossof has no appeal to a working man because he's a Democrat? Or that he doesn't have the ability to formulate and enact policies that help that voter? This is not so.

There are numerous others who are making names for themselves now and are going to break the grip of the GOP on the public imagination. Look at Texas for a clue.

This election will change the direction of the narrative shortly. The next president is going to be a strong, articulate, intelligent Democrat who will gain the trust of many of the voters who once voted for Trump. You don't worry about MAGA voters. They are morons. But at least a third of the Republican registered voters are just as sick of seeing government sponsored terrorists murdering unarmed American civilians in cold blood.

The Democratic party is moving towards the voters now and the voters are moving towards the Democratic Party now. All it takes is one or two dynamic leaders to change the script and lead the nation out of this hellscape we're in.

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10/25/2026  10:44 PM
I like Ossof. Mark Kelly also.
Im afraid Dems won't help themselves to trample Trump and the admin. I really want it for myself too.

You know, when lots of people don't feel good about things they like Facists. Hillary was right. American does not want to be told its middle dumb enitled suck and getting lapped by immigrents. Trump lucked into that.
I like universal health care like Medicare. What dumb folk don't get is there would still be suppliments to pay for better coverag and get better care. But the ramp up costs were be really high, and we like guns, ships and missles instead. Society is not able to collectively come together for a common cause. Things are so good its about affordablity. Then don't want to be told to buy insurance. The american spirit of mistrust.
It is the best of times never the less........
Famine, disease, and war destroyed millions over centuries. Yet Americans want more house, big TV's, cell phones, and plain old everything.
To gain power polititions make issues were none exist. LIke the reflecting pool in DC.
My gut says change comes after something really bad. I hope im wrong. History tells us when you build a war machine you need a return on invsetment. We do dumb things at times. Thats what Im afraid of. That and Im politically aligned with Philc.

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10/25/2026  11:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2026  12:07 AM
Nalod wrote:I like Ossof. Mark Kelly also.
Im afraid Dems won't help themselves to trample Trump and the admin. I really want it for myself too.

You know, when lots of people don't feel good about things they like Facists. Hillary was right. American does not want to be told its middle dumb enitled suck and getting lapped by immigrents. Trump lucked into that.
I like universal health care like Medicare. What dumb folk don't get is there would still be suppliments to pay for better coverag and get better care. But the ramp up costs were be really high, and we like guns, ships and missles instead. Society is not able to collectively come together for a common cause. Things are so good its about affordablity. Then don't want to be told to buy insurance. The american spirit of mistrust.
It is the best of times never the less........
Famine, disease, and war destroyed millions over centuries. Yet Americans want more house, big TV's, cell phones, and plain old everything.
To gain power polititions make issues were none exist. LIke the reflecting pool in DC.
My gut says change comes after something really bad. I hope im wrong. History tells us when you build a war machine you need a return on invsetment. We do dumb things at times. Thats what Im afraid of. That and Im politically aligned with Philc.

Your pessimism is entirely warranted.

While I do feel there will be an accounting for (only some of) the crimes committed, I concede this much: No previous allied nation will ever trust our country again, because if Americans were stupid enough to elect Trump a second time after his terrible first term, they are stupid enough to elect something this awful again. It is not like this country's IQ is on the rise, so the downside margin of error will always be a slippery slope waiting for the next election.

He's a rapist, a pedophile, a crook, a murderer, the list goes on, but the problem for this country will be the next time they let the rats take over they might be smarter crooks than this imbecile in the WH. And since the protections against tyranny have been shredded already, it might not take that much next time to cancel elections and be ruled by autocrats.

Americans deserve this. We are an illiterate nation easily duped by swindlers.

When a face eating leopard says I'm going to eat your face and you pretend they won't, then you're an idiot. Our country is full of them. These criminals told us what they were going to do and people still voted for them. I'll bring down the cost of groceries says the clownish fool and people don't stop to ask them how. They just vote for vague promises, not policies.

The average voter has no critical thinking skills. They vote on emotion and hunches. The GOP knew this 50 years ago and wired up the minds of the lemmings to hate the other side with zero thought, just emotion. Hating Biden was popular because of their programming, not because his administration was ruining the country. He was too old to stay in office of course, but he had competent people all around him and that never mattered to the emotionalism of the average Republican.

It matters a whole lot now when our federal government is staffed by thousands of criminal loyalists feeding off the public's miseries, but apparently people didn't figure out from Trump's first term he is surrounded by sycophants and con men determined to dismantle all of the services and protections that we pay for. It never occurred to these numbskulls. They just choose a figurehead as if that's the whole decision to be made.

And how they could choose an illiterate fool like Trump is beyond me. The man is obviously mentally ill in the worst possible way with zero intentions of helping Americans. It is shocking how easy it was for him to grift his way into office. Choosing this person to represent you and protect you is the very definition of insanity.

It is beyond obvious Trump surrounds himself with people who have malicious agendas (i.e. Stephen Miller, Russell Vought) in a tacit quid pro quo arrangement that goes like this:

You can pursue whatever policies you want as long as they don't conflict with me using my position as POTUS to amass billions in illicit gains from foreign nations and diversion of public funds into my pocket. And if those policies can line my pockets too, then gung ho! full steam ahead!

That's it folks!

People didn't figure it out the first time and you voted for him again and gave him a second chance to pillage? Really? It wasn't obvious the first time around? Morons.

My heart breaks for this country and the good people in it, but I give zero fux about the people who voted for this criminal and his cronies. FAFO you dummies. In the meantime, I will hope for some justice to be in the offing. Nothing is certain though, that much is certain.

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10/26/2026  9:10 AM
Trump makes Nixon look like a Boy Scout.
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10/26/2026  12:24 PM
Nalod wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
ToddTT wrote:At this point, the #1 act of patriotism would be to vote.

Agreed

I look forward to the revelations of the upcoming investigations, especially those looking into DOGE. The gloves will be off

VOTE!!!!!

Democrats will be out for blood.
Issue I have with the far left is not my jam. Sure as hell the far right is not either.
The issue of affordablity is a massive issue for struggling voters.
Yet the problems at hand are not solved by Trumps transactional offerings ($5000, aid to states, etc). He has lost faith in his ablity to manage sanctions and tarrifs and the grift is in plain sight.
At the same time Democrats have no solid footing to fixing some core issues that appeal to those who voted for trump. Mainly taking repsonsablity to ones actions rather than blaming minorities who are making gaines in the world. Fox tell white voters "its not your fault you suck".

They will need to be. If not they will lose a generation or more of future voters. Then next phase after that will be anarchist popping up to tear down this 2 party system all together. Can no longer play the let bygones be bygones, there is nothing we can do game.

Dems either take action or end up getting lumped together with the GOP.

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10/26/2026  5:50 PM
Trump promises Trump accounts for kids
Elon promises one Space X shares for kids
Democrats promise prosecution of Trump and Musk
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10/26/2026  6:37 PM
Rookie wrote:Trump promises Trump accounts for kids
Elon promises one Space X shares for kids
Democrats promise prosecution of Trump and Musk

Still people who believe Trump promises? Hahahahaahahaha

GOP last 2 years has had majority in the House, Senate, Supreme Court & POTUS.

What are the tangible results that provide credibilty to Republican leadership? A lot of theory and ideals have been kicked around for years now.

With all the power and control to put in place and validate these theories and ideals. What have been the results to solidify credibility?

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10/26/2026  6:43 PM
And there needs to be a ALOT more ppl prosecuted than just Trump.
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10/26/2026  6:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2026  6:59 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Rookie wrote:Trump promises Trump accounts for kids
Elon promises one Space X shares for kids
Democrats promise prosecution of Trump and Musk

Still people who believe Trump promises? Hahahahaahahaha

GOP last 2 years has had majority in the House, Senate, Supreme Court & POTUS.

What are the tangible results that provide credibilty to Republican leadership? A lot of theory and ideals have been kicked around for years now.

With all the power and control to put in place and validate these theories and ideals. What have been the results to solidify credibility?

Look I get it. Most of you calling the GOP uneducated have a mountain of college debt but walked away with a BS degree that doesn't help you pay the bills and in the process you were taught to hate on half the country. Meanwhile plumbers, electricians and ironworkers, if they need a few extra bucks they do I side job on the weekend and still have time to go fishing. You might think it’s not fair and the government isn’t giving you enough but really it was your choices that ultimately made you bitter and hating on everyone who is doing just fine.

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10/26/2026  7:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2026  7:18 PM
BTW if you want to know who you are talking to, this me https://www.facebook.com/share/14b9dQi2RtY/?mibextid=wwXIfr
ToddTT
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10/26/2026  7:38 PM
Rookie wrote:BTW if you want to know who you are talking to, this me https://www.facebook.com/share/14b9dQi2RtY/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Facebook causes brain damage. Nice try though.

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ToddTT
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10/26/2026  7:41 PM
Rookie wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Rookie wrote:Trump promises Trump accounts for kids
Elon promises one Space X shares for kids
Democrats promise prosecution of Trump and Musk

Still people who believe Trump promises? Hahahahaahahaha

GOP last 2 years has had majority in the House, Senate, Supreme Court & POTUS.

What are the tangible results that provide credibilty to Republican leadership? A lot of theory and ideals have been kicked around for years now.

With all the power and control to put in place and validate these theories and ideals. What have been the results to solidify credibility?

Look I get it. Most of you calling the GOP uneducated have a mountain of college debt but walked away with a BS degree that doesn't help you pay the bills and in the process you were taught to hate on half the country. Meanwhile plumbers, electricians and ironworkers, if they need a few extra bucks they do I side job on the weekend and still have time to go fishing. You might think it’s not fair and the government isn’t giving you enough but really it was your choices that ultimately made you bitter and hating on everyone who is doing just fine.

I must have missed part of the discussion. I’m not sure what prompted that sort of reply.

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10/26/2026  8:21 PM
Rookie wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Rookie wrote:Trump promises Trump accounts for kids
Elon promises one Space X shares for kids
Democrats promise prosecution of Trump and Musk

Still people who believe Trump promises? Hahahahaahahaha

GOP last 2 years has had majority in the House, Senate, Supreme Court & POTUS.

What are the tangible results that provide credibilty to Republican leadership? A lot of theory and ideals have been kicked around for years now.

With all the power and control to put in place and validate these theories and ideals. What have been the results to solidify credibility?

Look I get it. Most of you calling the GOP uneducated have a mountain of college debt but walked away with a BS degree that doesn't help you pay the bills and in the process you were taught to hate on half the country. Meanwhile plumbers, electricians and ironworkers, if they need a few extra bucks they do I side job on the weekend and still have time to go fishing. You might think it’s not fair and the government isn’t giving you enough but really it was your choices that ultimately made you bitter and hating on everyone who is doing just fine.

None of what you wrote answers my question. Which was a pretty straight forward question.

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10/26/2026  9:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2026  7:15 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Rookie wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Rookie wrote:Trump promises Trump accounts for kids
Elon promises one Space X shares for kids
Democrats promise prosecution of Trump and Musk

Still people who believe Trump promises? Hahahahaahahaha

GOP last 2 years has had majority in the House, Senate, Supreme Court & POTUS.

What are the tangible results that provide credibilty to Republican leadership? A lot of theory and ideals have been kicked around for years now.

With all the power and control to put in place and validate these theories and ideals. What have been the results to solidify credibility?

Look I get it. Most of you calling the GOP uneducated have a mountain of college debt but walked away with a BS degree that doesn't help you pay the bills and in the process you were taught to hate on half the country. Meanwhile plumbers, electricians and ironworkers, if they need a few extra bucks they do I side job on the weekend and still have time to go fishing. You might think it’s not fair and the government isn’t giving you enough but really it was your choices that ultimately made you bitter and hating on everyone who is doing just fine.

None of what you wrote answers my question. Which was a pretty straight forward question.

MAGAs only know how to deflect. I've never met a single one who will deal with actual issues head-on. This is the only way they can sustain their conception of reality.

Saying you're butthurt because you're poor is troll language.

Not only are the assumptions they made entirely random and unhinged, but you always know a MAGA by the victory laps they immediately take after uttering what they believe was a kill shot of an argument point. It doesn't matter that what they said is childish nonsense. They're here to win and logic doesn't butter their bread.

Trump has taught them well. Say something with no basis in reality then say I won and that's as far as it goes. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. No depth, just empty-hearted boasts and victory laps. Hey, it worked well enough to get that bastard elected twice, but the act is tired and swing voters are not buying it again.

All of the MAGAs that emulate his behavior will find their gas lighting schtick is going to produce diminishing returns in their personal life from now on too. The jig is up at the polls and in social spaces like this one too. FAFO like a clown and the world will clown you back like you've never been clowned before. Just wait, the backlash against callous MAGA speech is just getting started.

That their reflex was to flex about their financial well-being says everything about their mindset.

That they would then conflate that into a justification to mock anyone who is not well off at this time is a further indication of this person's world view.

It is completely obvious that Rookie will accept any level of savagery in our society as long as their checkbook is balanced.

And this is why you won't hear any complaints from them about American citizens being murdered in cold blood, because they only care about their bank account.

Fascism Schmacism.

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10/27/2026  9:48 AM
Circles back to the fake patriotism.

Holding powerful elites accountable for crimes commiteed falls in line with the basis of why the Constitution was constructed. Constitution is the bases which American idealism derives from. A lot of the same people preaching "patriotism" have shown they will turn their back on the Constitution. As a lot of same people pushing & preaching for American patriotism are more so doing so for the white power & privledge element. Their love for America is more so love for white power and privledge, not really for America itself. Simply just coded language.

Real love and patriotism etc, would be sacrificing things that may benefit you personally. If it didn't fall in line with the values of the Constitution.

Willingness to go or turn a blind eye to Facsism, Dictatorship, King, Oligarchy, Corruption, Violation of human rights etc etc etc. As long as white power & privledge is more likely to be favored. Falls more in line with traitorous behavor than patriotism.

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10/27/2026  1:33 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Rookie wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Rookie wrote:Trump promises Trump accounts for kids
Elon promises one Space X shares for kids
Democrats promise prosecution of Trump and Musk

Still people who believe Trump promises? Hahahahaahahaha

GOP last 2 years has had majority in the House, Senate, Supreme Court & POTUS.

What are the tangible results that provide credibilty to Republican leadership? A lot of theory and ideals have been kicked around for years now.

With all the power and control to put in place and validate these theories and ideals. What have been the results to solidify credibility?

Look I get it. Most of you calling the GOP uneducated have a mountain of college debt but walked away with a BS degree that doesn't help you pay the bills and in the process you were taught to hate on half the country. Meanwhile plumbers, electricians and ironworkers, if they need a few extra bucks they do I side job on the weekend and still have time to go fishing. You might think it’s not fair and the government isn’t giving you enough but really it was your choices that ultimately made you bitter and hating on everyone who is doing just fine.

None of what you wrote answers my question. Which was a pretty straight forward question.

You should look up the procedural hurdles Filibuster and Cloture and you will find your answer

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10/27/2026  1:42 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Circles back to the fake patriotism.

Holding powerful elites accountable for crimes commiteed falls in line with the basis of why the Constitution was constructed. Constitution is the bases which American idealism derives from. A lot of the same people preaching "patriotism" have shown they will turn their back on the Constitution. As a lot of same people pushing & preaching for American patriotism are more so doing so for the white power & privledge element. Their love for America is more so love for white power and privledge, not really for America itself. Simply just coded language.

Real love and patriotism etc, would be sacrificing things that may benefit you personally. If it didn't fall in line with the values of the Constitution.

Willingness to go or turn a blind eye to Facsism, Dictatorship, King, Oligarchy, Corruption, Violation of human rights etc etc etc. As long as white power & privledge is more likely to be favored. Falls more in line with traitorous behavor than patriotism.

Everyone I know believes in the rule of law and holding people accountable for their actions. My closest friends are ALL former military and are neither wealthy nor do they enjoy or benefit from any white privilege that you speak of. So, if you are talking directly to me trying to label me or anyone that I associate with I will say emphatically that you are way off and it is insulting since I have been posting here for almost two decades and I am not a total stranger to any of you

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