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Nalod wrote:Can Silver can simply punish them for their BLATANT actions by ruling they don’t get any balls, thus falling to the back of the lottery line? This sets a precedent that will discourage this type of disingenuous pulling of players to lose the game and not have to forfeit the pick. Given the protections, it then defaults to the knicks is perhaps the fair outcome.
This might one way for silver to punish without a nuclear option of taking their pick away from them.
That, and offer a refund to every fan who bought a ticket to that game.

He has the power to take picks or to assign those picks to other teams. The problem is Silver has no balls so most likely the max that will happen is a fine that is like a $20 ticket to the owner. This was the most blatant tanking I ever seen. Especially while they had a possible chance to fight for the play-in. Until now a coach throwing the actual games never crossed my mind. Tanking to me was like how the Pacers did it. You sit your best players but you play to win with lesser talent. What the Mavs did was on a whole new level. After I seen what they did vs the Bulls I knew there was no chance they win the last game no matter how bad the team they played. I always wondered why Ainge treated our protected picks like they were diseased. Now I know why.

Clean wrote:

Nalod wrote:Can Silver can simply punish them for their BLATANT actions by ruling they don’t get any balls, thus falling to the back of the lottery line? This sets a precedent that will discourage this type of disingenuous pulling of players to lose the game and not have to forfeit the pick. Given the protections, it then defaults to the knicks is perhaps the fair outcome.
This might one way for silver to punish without a nuclear option of taking their pick away from them.
That, and offer a refund to every fan who bought a ticket to that game.

He has the power to take picks or to assign those picks to other teams. The problem is Silver has no balls so most likely the max that will happen is a fine that is like a $20 ticket to the owner. This was the most blatant tanking I ever seen. Especially while they had a possible chance to fight for the play-in. Until now a coach throwing the actual games never crossed my mind. Tanking to me was like how the Pacers did it. You sit your best players but you play to win with lesser talent. What the Mavs did was on a whole new level. After I seen what they did vs the Bulls I knew there was no chance they win the last game no matter how bad the team they played. I always wondered why Ainge treaded our protected picks like they were diseased. Now I know why.

Silver’s balls are not what empoweres him. He is employed by the owners.
There were numerous teams that tanked this year. Portland was pretty egregious in doing so as well!
What Silver did with Sterling and Robert Sarver was not force them to sell but create the path by which the desired result occurred and they did anyway.

My suggestion (can’t be original) is if he treats the games as if Dallas one then he can justify moving them out of the 10th spot and the pick convey’s. This way he does not have to take the pick away from them. You simply correct what was done in a fair manner. The league was embarrassed by Cubans blatant actions and thus sets a precedent.
Taking away a first round pick is pretty damn severe and there is no precedent to doing so. Going forward it might make sense but you have to establish that rule and penalty before.

There are 30 owners and they primarily get along. Im sure Cuban is not happy with Knicks right now but he himself is no angel and not a stupid man.

Knicks picks are not valuable because they are not an awful team. Dallas and Wiz picks were protected.

Lets see what happens. Issue is Portland’s tank was pretty bad also.. They put a very uncompetitive product on the floor.

IF Dallas does get punished Kidds comments might have been the tipping point. That it was “Slovania night” vs Bulls and many came from there to see the game, and Luka got pulled in the second quarter early when they were up big was pretty damning.

Nalod wrote:

Clean wrote:

Nalod wrote:Can Silver can simply punish them for their BLATANT actions by ruling they don’t get any balls, thus falling to the back of the lottery line? This sets a precedent that will discourage this type of disingenuous pulling of players to lose the game and not have to forfeit the pick. Given the protections, it then defaults to the knicks is perhaps the fair outcome.
This might one way for silver to punish without a nuclear option of taking their pick away from them.
That, and offer a refund to every fan who bought a ticket to that game.

He has the power to take picks or to assign those picks to other teams. The problem is Silver has no balls so most likely the max that will happen is a fine that is like a $20 ticket to the owner. This was the most blatant tanking I ever seen. Especially while they had a possible chance to fight for the play-in. Until now a coach throwing the actual games never crossed my mind. Tanking to me was like how the Pacers did it. You sit your best players but you play to win with lesser talent. What the Mavs did was on a whole new level. After I seen what they did vs the Bulls I knew there was no chance they win the last game no matter how bad the team they played. I always wondered why Ainge treaded our protected picks like they were diseased. Now I know why.

Silver’s balls are not what empoweres him. He is employed by the owners.
There were numerous teams that tanked this year. Portland was pretty egregious in doing so as well!
What Silver did with Sterling and Robert Sarver was not force them to sell but create the path by which the desired result occurred and they did anyway.

My suggestion (can’t be original) is if he treats the games as if Dallas one then he can justify moving them out of the 10th spot and the pick convey’s. This way he does not have to take the pick away from them. You simply correct what was done in a fair manner. The league was embarrassed by Cubans blatant actions and thus sets a precedent.
Taking away a first round pick is pretty damn severe and there is no precedent to doing so. Going forward it might make sense but you have to establish that rule and penalty before.

There are 30 owners and they primarily get along. Im sure Cuban is not happy with Knicks right now but he himself is no angel and not a stupid man.

Knicks picks are not valuable because they are not an awful team. Dallas and Wiz picks were protected.

Lets see what happens. Issue is Portland’s tank was pretty bad also.. They put a very uncompetitive product on the floor.

IF Dallas does get punished Kidds comments might have been the tipping point. That it was “Slovania night” vs Bulls and many came from there to see the game, and Luka got pulled in the second quarter early when they were up big was pretty damning.

It going to be totally wild when Dallas FALLS to pick #11 and Silver just sits there with a grin that smells like teen spirit but acts like a boss.

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Clean wrote:

Nalod wrote:Can Silver can simply punish them for their BLATANT actions by ruling they don’t get any balls, thus falling to the back of the lottery line? This sets a precedent that will discourage this type of disingenuous pulling of players to lose the game and not have to forfeit the pick. Given the protections, it then defaults to the knicks is perhaps the fair outcome.
This might one way for silver to punish without a nuclear option of taking their pick away from them.
That, and offer a refund to every fan who bought a ticket to that game.

He has the power to take picks or to assign those picks to other teams. The problem is Silver has no balls so most likely the max that will happen is a fine that is like a $20 ticket to the owner. This was the most blatant tanking I ever seen. Especially while they had a possible chance to fight for the play-in. Until now a coach throwing the actual games never crossed my mind. Tanking to me was like how the Pacers did it. You sit your best players but you play to win with lesser talent. What the Mavs did was on a whole new level. After I seen what they did vs the Bulls I knew there was no chance they win the last game no matter how bad the team they played. I always wondered why Ainge treaded our protected picks like they were diseased. Now I know why.

Silver’s balls are not what empoweres him. He is employed by the owners.
There were numerous teams that tanked this year. Portland was pretty egregious in doing so as well!
What Silver did with Sterling and Robert Sarver was not force them to sell but create the path by which the desired result occurred and they did anyway.

My suggestion (can’t be original) is if he treats the games as if Dallas one then he can justify moving them out of the 10th spot and the pick convey’s. This way he does not have to take the pick away from them. You simply correct what was done in a fair manner. The league was embarrassed by Cubans blatant actions and thus sets a precedent.
Taking away a first round pick is pretty damn severe and there is no precedent to doing so. Going forward it might make sense but you have to establish that rule and penalty before.

There are 30 owners and they primarily get along. Im sure Cuban is not happy with Knicks right now but he himself is no angel and not a stupid man.

Knicks picks are not valuable because they are not an awful team. Dallas and Wiz picks were protected.

Lets see what happens. Issue is Portland’s tank was pretty bad also.. They put a very uncompetitive product on the floor.

IF Dallas does get punished Kidds comments might have been the tipping point. That it was “Slovania night” vs Bulls and many came from there to see the game, and Luka got pulled in the second quarter early when they were up big was pretty damning.

It going to be totally wild when Dallas FALLS to pick #11 and Silver just sits there with a grin that smells like teen spirit but acts like a boss.

Hahaha - Silver is either Grim Reaper or Nosferatu

That said, Silver is a stooge and will likely do nothing

Chandler wrote:Silver should punish them by giving them the last spot

That said, Silver is a stooge and will likely do nothing

don't fans hate all the major sports franchises?
What is Silvers metrics? Revenue? Franchise Value? Attendance?
Fans satisfaction? Its measured by viewership, attendance, and sponsorship's.

My level of satisfaction for Dallas to be punished and we get our pick. This is a knick fan perspective.
Dallas fan who bought tickets should be pissed. Taking away the pick further damages them?
To not is to reward Cuban.
Silver is paid $10mil a year to take the heat for the league. Manford, Goodall and Bettman are also booed by fans often.
Again, he works for the owners, not the fans. He has to protect the game and its integrity. Thus, its a tough job.
NBA will investigate this and perhaps we should be patient but I agree a nuclear punishment is not likely.