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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
![]() foosballnick wrote:mreinman wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia(on Friday).. Sorry to hear about your father. If he was able to survive with it for 30 years than it was not as progressive as some of the other more severe forms. A close family member suffered with parkinson's for many years and I saw it up close and researched it daily. Today, DBS surgery seems to be quite successful if one is a candidate. There are numerous forms of atypical Parkinson's. A common one is PSP which seemed to be in line with some of Hillary's symptoms though that is a very amateur guess. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() Welpee wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Sure you did. So what's with the "Hussain" act? Why are playing that game with someone you (claim) you supported...twice?Welpee wrote:gunsnewing wrote:And the Hussain Obama is used to make to make the point this this current administration bends over backwards to defend everyone around the globe but our fellow Americans. NOT to be racists towards our black PresidentWhen are you guys going to give the whole "Hussain" thing a rest? Everybody knows what you're trying to do. It didn't work eight years ago, it didn't work four years ago, it doesn't work now. Cheap shots may make YOU feel good, it turns off people on the fence who could actually be persuaded to joining your side if you weren't so divisive. Think about it (though I'm sure you won't since I'm sure you probably believe being PC is a bad thing). Not playing games. People here keep bringing up the housing discrimination over 40yrs during a time when New York was in shambles. I was also trying to refute the idea that he is racist for calling him Hussain. I find it hard to believe these people actually believed Obama was not an American. The purpose behind it is to make the point that he is more sympathetic to everyone than actual Americans. I don't have a solid opinion on the matter but you guys can provide your own and decide if you feel Obama does enough to protect America |
earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
![]() holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:blkexec wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Assange: Next Release Of 100,000 Clinton Docs Will Finish Hillary She displays a lot of symptoms though, not just those two clips. I feel bad for the lady personally, even though I don't want her as president. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() DrAlphaeus wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Welpee wrote:gunsnewing wrote:And the Hussain Obama is used to make to make the point this this current administration bends over backwards to defend everyone around the globe but our fellow Americans. NOT to be racists towards our black PresidentWhen are you guys going to give the whole "Hussain" thing a rest? Everybody knows what you're trying to do. It didn't work eight years ago, it didn't work four years ago, it doesn't work now. Cheap shots may make YOU feel good, it turns off people on the fence who could actually be persuaded to joining your side if you weren't so divisive. Think about it (though I'm sure you won't since I'm sure you probably believe being PC is a bad thing). I don't quite follow. I hope the above answers your question. Regardless I would never vote for Hillary because the other candidate may have said one thing I wholeheartedly disagree with. It would take a lot more than simply not calling the President by his name. |
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() Can she do the job if it is PSP or one of the lesser forms of Parkinson's?
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
![]() Welpee wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:I know that sounds very apocalyptic and the world will come to an end if Hillary is elected. Every four years somebody claims they're leaving the country if _____ is elected president. However, we have had people in the white house FAR more corrupt than Hillary (both republican and democrat) and we somehow managed to survive. The only reason Trump's corruption hasn't been as consequential is because he hasn't been in public office. Does anyone in their right mind think Trump is going to be less corrupt than anyone who has ever run for public office?holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:blkexec wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Assange: Next Release Of 100,000 Clinton Docs Will Finish Hillary I really don't think Trump would want war. He wants to be remembered for turning America around. Hillary has had a few thousand show up for her talks (and the media with their clever camera angles try to distort things) - Trump has had 10's of thousands. But to answer your question - Yes, he will be MUCH less corrupt, cause he wants to turn the country around - he wants that legacy. He is very egoistic, but not a cold hearted killer. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
![]() The spin machine rolls on:
“At least half a dozen senior staff were felled, including campaign manager Robby Mook,” according to the source. “Two top advisers even needed emergency medical treatment,” the source explained. “One top adviser diagnosed at a Brooklyn urgent-care center with a respiratory infection was being treated with antibiotics in the days before Clinton’s diagnosis. Another top adviser was taken by ambulance to the ER after collapsing from what turned out to be severe dehydration.” This is the crap I hate about all politicians. The worst liars out there. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
![]() Welpee wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:And that guy who produced that video is laughing his behind off at how gullible folks are. She may indeed be hiding some type of illness, but this video reveals nothing. I guarantee if I recorded hundreds of hours video of you over a 12 month period I could put together a video package to post on youtube to make you appear to have whatever medical narrative I decided on pin on you.holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia(on Friday).. Are your serious? I've never seen anyone (not drunk) act like that, especially holding public office. Whether it is Parkinsons or some other Neurological disease. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() mreinman wrote:The spin machine rolls on:“At least half a dozen senior staff were felled, including campaign manager Robby Mook,” according to the source. “Two top advisers even needed emergency medical treatment,” the source explained. “One top adviser diagnosed at a Brooklyn urgent-care center with a respiratory infection was being treated with antibiotics in the days before Clinton’s diagnosis. Another top adviser was taken by ambulance to the ER after collapsing from what turned out to be severe dehydration.” If it works and she wins and it comes out after the fact that she is indeed sick Tim Kaine becomes our President. I'm sure the establishment prefers that scenario over Bernie who they fear immensely because his intentions go against everything they are about. Their worst nightmare is Hullary being forced to to step down for medical reasons and the runner up Democratic candidate takes her place. H will win despite his age and not appearing to look very Presidential. The hate for Trump is that strong |
holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
![]() earthmansurfer wrote:Welpee wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:I know that sounds very apocalyptic and the world will come to an end if Hillary is elected. Every four years somebody claims they're leaving the country if _____ is elected president. However, we have had people in the white house FAR more corrupt than Hillary (both republican and democrat) and we somehow managed to survive. The only reason Trump's corruption hasn't been as consequential is because he hasn't been in public office. Does anyone in their right mind think Trump is going to be less corrupt than anyone who has ever run for public office?holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:blkexec wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Assange: Next Release Of 100,000 Clinton Docs Will Finish Hillary Trump and one of his generals said he will put boots on the ground to fight ISIS, so that means troops back in Iraq...Trump said he supported intervention in Libya in 2011 before he flipped flopped, Trump didn't want the Iran nuclear deal which meant war..He would have certainly agreed with Isreal...That's 3 theaters of war in the Middle East.. B And please tell me he wouldn't have something to say about Syria?? |
Welpee
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![]() holfresh wrote:I don't understand your point. At some point you have to ask yourself why is she involved in so may scandals? It can't all just be a right wing witch hunt. This isn't a court of law where you're innocent until proven guilty. I think people are smart enough to discern legit controversy from invented controversies like what they were trying to throw at Obama (i.e. Rev. Wright, Ayers, birther, etc.). I think people believe, whether there was enough to find her guilty or not, these controversies involving her have some legitimacy to them on some level. Can't just dismiss it.Welpee wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:I agree. And you're right, if Hillary were more trustworthy more people would be willing to dismiss it or at least give her the benefit of the doubt.Welpee wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:And that guy who produced that video is laughing his behind off at how gullible folks are. She may indeed be hiding some type of illness, but this video reveals nothing. I guarantee if I recorded hundreds of hours video of you over a 12 month period I could put together a video package to post on youtube to make you appear to have whatever medical narrative I decided on pin on you.holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia(on Friday).. |
Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
![]() earthmansurfer wrote:Again, give me 100 hours of video of you just living your life and I'll produce a similarly convincing video.Welpee wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:And that guy who produced that video is laughing his behind off at how gullible folks are. She may indeed be hiding some type of illness, but this video reveals nothing. I guarantee if I recorded hundreds of hours video of you over a 12 month period I could put together a video package to post on youtube to make you appear to have whatever medical narrative I decided on pin on you.holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia(on Friday).. |
Markji
Posts: 22753 Alba Posts: -4 Joined: 9/14/2007 Member: #1673 USA |
![]() foosballnick wrote:mreinman wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia(on Friday).. Regarding Hillary's illnesses: Assorted antibiotics, sulfa drugs, cold and allergy medicines and pain killers are among the medications that can make people more vulnerable to sun and heat. To be on the record though, I would rather have seen, or possibly still see, either Biden or Bernie or even Elizabeth Warren as the Democratic candidate. Anyone who can/will defeat Trump. And if Hillary is still the candidate come election day, I will vote for her. P.S. To give some props to the other candidate's and their physical stamina - Trump just turned 70; Bernie recently turned 75; Biden will be 74 in November. They all have very strong constitutions, IMO. The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
Tom Clancy - author
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
![]() gunsnewing wrote:"I was also trying to refute the idea that he is racist for calling him Hussain." That makes absolutely no sense.Welpee wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Sure you did. So what's with the "Hussain" act? Why are playing that game with someone you (claim) you supported...twice?Welpee wrote:gunsnewing wrote:And the Hussain Obama is used to make to make the point this this current administration bends over backwards to defend everyone around the globe but our fellow Americans. NOT to be racists towards our black PresidentWhen are you guys going to give the whole "Hussain" thing a rest? Everybody knows what you're trying to do. It didn't work eight years ago, it didn't work four years ago, it doesn't work now. Cheap shots may make YOU feel good, it turns off people on the fence who could actually be persuaded to joining your side if you weren't so divisive. Think about it (though I'm sure you won't since I'm sure you probably believe being PC is a bad thing). |
DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
![]() gunsnewing wrote:I don't quite follow. I hope the above answers your question. Regardless I would never vote for Hillary because the other candidate may have said one thing I wholeheartedly disagree with. It would take a lot more than simply not calling the President by his name. OK. Below is the entirety of your post I questioned, you do remember writing this, right? gunsnewing wrote:And the Hussain Obama is used to make to make the point this this current administration bends over backwards to defend everyone around the globe but our fellow Americans. NOT to be racists towards our black President I agreed that the Middle Name Game is not necessarily racist, but it is certainly xenophobic dogwhistling of the anti-Islamic, anti-Arabic variety and alludes to Saddam Hussein. So if one sees a news article leaning on that — which I didn't see nor brought up — one has a right to suspect the journalistic integrity. You justify the use of "Hussain (sic) Obama ... to make the point that this current administration bends over backwards to defend everyone around the globe but our fellow Americans". And you then say "The purpose behind it is to make the point that he is more sympathetic to everyone than actual Americans." But then say "I don't have a solid opinion on the matter but you guys can provide your own and decide if you feel Obama does enough to protect America" "Enough to protect America" is evaluating his policy and performance, which is fair. "Bending over backwards to defend everyone around the globe but our fellow Americans" and "he is more sympathetic to everyone than actual Americans" is hyperbole and dishonest. It is by definition an opinion unless you can read his mind. And you are dishonest by saying you don't have an opinion either way when you felt you had to defend it. Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() Markji wrote:foosballnick wrote:mreinman wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia(on Friday).. It's honorable for sure but she is running for President not a $10 an our desk job. I just America realizes the importance of a Presidential election. It's more than just a news media reality show for ratings |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() mreinman wrote:The spin machine rolls on:“At least half a dozen senior staff were felled, including campaign manager Robby Mook,” according to the source. “Two top advisers even needed emergency medical treatment,” the source explained. “One top adviser diagnosed at a Brooklyn urgent-care center with a respiratory infection was being treated with antibiotics in the days before Clinton’s diagnosis. Another top adviser was taken by ambulance to the ER after collapsing from what turned out to be severe dehydration.” You do realize that it's easy to check on whether someone was admitted to an ER or was taken by Ambulance somewhere? If they did in fact get sick there would be some kind of record of this and so I don't think someone would just make it up knowing how hard reporters would check on this. We'll know eventually if it was a lie cuz it always comes out. Besides getting an upper respiratory infection is one sure way to get Pneumonia if you're older. So it's perfectly logical that she could've caught something from a staff member. |
Markji
Posts: 22753 Alba Posts: -4 Joined: 9/14/2007 Member: #1673 USA |
![]() gunsnewing wrote:Markji wrote:foosballnick wrote:mreinman wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia(on Friday).. Your reference to "It's more than just a news media reality show for ratings" must be referring to Trump who has run his campaign as a political reality TV show. I agree with some of yours and others statements on Hillary - that there is a lot to dislike or question about her. She is not my first or even 2nd choice for President. But in a 2 person race she is far superior to Trump. And so is Tim Kane if for some reason, he has to take over the presidency. The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
Tom Clancy - author
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
![]() nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:The spin machine rolls on:“At least half a dozen senior staff were felled, including campaign manager Robby Mook,” according to the source. “Two top advisers even needed emergency medical treatment,” the source explained. “One top adviser diagnosed at a Brooklyn urgent-care center with a respiratory infection was being treated with antibiotics in the days before Clinton’s diagnosis. Another top adviser was taken by ambulance to the ER after collapsing from what turned out to be severe dehydration.” No. Its not easy to find out ... you don't know what you are talking about. If they don't want this info out there, it won't be out there. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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