holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Chandler is a top player for sure, but outside of putbacks he has no offense. Our offensive output was Melo then Amare/Lin - not sure who was second, really. Top defender of the 4 was Chandler and then Lin though, with Melo a solid 3rd. Stat did basically nothing on Defense.
One of our top two offensive scorers go down and we are SOL, say goodbye to getting past Miami. Miami has 3 top scorers who ALL play defense and to compete with them we should have held onto Lin.Lin didn't know his role? What kind of crap is that? He was getting plenty of assists and making the team play together as well. He helped turn around a miserable season. Where are you getting your "Woodson had to tell Lin to pass the ball"? Lin was a team player, at least our eyes showed that. And he was incredible in crunch time in the 4th. Him and Melo were trusted then. Hopefully Stat turns things around this year.
Really interesting of you to even imply Lin was a ball hog, I mean on a team with Melo, to say Lin is a ball hog - there are no words. To see how many times Stat turns the ball over trying to create when he needs to be set up for the most part, is further BS. Amare was having a pretty bad year, Lin gave it to him more than enough - I wish Lin had done more on his own but he obviously trusted his teamates, but really Stat was the question here.
This come back to Dolan and his idiotic way of running a business.
Come on, Lin wasn't a good defender and certainly not second best on the team...We drafted this guy named Shumpert that did ok defensively...Jose Calderson to your Lin defensive question, and it doesn't end there...Out of respect for the career work that Amare put in, Lin should never think he has the option not to pass the ball to Amare..Lin will never be the player that Amare was in this league...Amare is probably the premier pick and roll PF in the game...Why does he think he has the green light to make that call...EGO!!!!..Then he thought he needs to decide when Melo gets the ball ...20 games under his belt...WOW!!!!...Knicks need a PG who is going to get the ball to the best scorers in their favorite spots...Knicks don't need a PG who is competing for shot opportunities...If Melo did what Lin did in terms of not passing the ball, the media and fans would have a field day...
I said Lin was the second best defender out of those 3, NOT on the team. I was clearly talking about our top scorers in Melo, Stat and Lin.
You said "Lin will never be the player that Mare was in this league..." Well, they play two different positions, so I won't argue that point. But Amare's best days appear mostly behind him, though he is still a great player. I'm not trying to make this into a competition. My point is we needed all we can to get by Miami. Let's not derail this again.
Lin turned the team around, clearly. Do Amare and Melo need a 3rd training camp to play well together? I mean we have another new pg, the excuse list will pile up. Lin helped the team to play better together.
Again, on point - Dolan is a moron of an owner and we will probably get to see that this year, but I do HOPE NOT.
Amare was playing pretty bad last year, albeit he had family problems as well as back problems. Lin is not the offensive force Amare is, at least not yet, but he also doesn't need to be set up like Amare. Let's not compare the two as that is not the gist of my post, clearly.
Some of you guys are missing the point and hinging on specific words. Here, hinge just on this: Dolon is a moron of an owner. He just let our chance at a championship slide (at least get noticeably much lower).
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
9/11/2012 8:50 AM
