EwingsGlass wrote:If you let Mitch go, you only have 6.1mm to replace him and that hard caps you.

Dolan doing that voluntarily already, so no sweat

martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:I'm wondering if Deuce gets traded to a more godly city now that Jose is locked in long term. They are kind of redundant.

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They literally play 2 different roles on the team. POA defender and spacer. Backup PG. Nether does the other very well.

I was thinking more as POA defenders and 3 point threats, but I think you are right. Both of those guys were at the top of on-off point differential for the team.

nycericanguy wrote:

aggo wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

aggo wrote:Go get Drummond

The issue is such a downgrade to Mitch defensively and as an offensive rebounder. What about Robert Williams if healthy ?

I’m really disappointed in all the reports about Mitch … the one that really got me was one stating that the front office was pleading with Dolan, because they know how important Mitch is. Like vs a team like Cleveland, or vs Joel and the 76ers

Mitch is an absolute defensive stud who can switch on anyone, force turnovers and guard the perimeter. Stuff that just doesn’t show up on the stat sheet. He is a glue big, who makes everyone around him better. Without Mitch this whole team suffers.

This team will be devastated by him walking away . We were not the same team without him, the only guy that comes close to his production is Robert Williams who you might get on a vet min deal … anyone else is either a has been or to slow, or just a different player

Yes Mitch isn’t perfect but he’s also the best offensive rebounder in the league … when he’s on the court the guys know we are getting second and third opportunities and on defense he’s a absolute beast. I freaking love Mitch. I don’t care about the free throws he’s like a bigger Rodman.

Someone’s gonna overpay for Mitch bc they are gonna think they need a rim runner or wemby defender. That’s just how it’ll work. His contract is gonna surprise ppl. I think he will get 2yr/50m. Nets, lakers, doesn’t matter someone is stupid enough

Reality is Mitch is overrated. He’s undervalued in the regular season but overvalued in the post season. We can’t play him more in the post bc he can’t shoot fts and teams hack a Mitch. So he can’t really be used

Just go get Drummond. Trade deuce. Put another 2 way guy on the roster, and give the rest of the money to both clarkson and shamet.

MItch isn't overrated, he's the best offensive rebounder in the NBA, and more possessions equals more points even if Mitch isn't the one scoring. He also provides VERTICAL spacing, something KAT doesn't. Teams can't leave him on P&R b/c he's a huge lob threat. He's a very good to elite defender one on one against bigs like Wemby & EMbid.

He had a +31 net rating these playoffs which is insane considering how few minutes he played.

Hack a mitch doesn't always work, it certainly didn't stop us this season. but I think it was just much more pronounced in the finals b/c KAT was always in foul trouble and that made it hard for Brown to sub MItch in when he wanted to when we weren't in the penalty.

There’s not another player like Mitch in the league … if I’m the Knicks see what he gets on the market then beat it on a one year deal with a PO for year 2

I don’t think he gets more then 15 mil give him 20 on a one year .

fitzfarm wrote:

aggo wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

aggo wrote:Go get Drummond

The issue is such a downgrade to Mitch defensively and as an offensive rebounder. What about Robert Williams if healthy ?

I’m really disappointed in all the reports about Mitch … the one that really got me was one stating that the front office was pleading with Dolan, because they know how important Mitch is. Like vs a team like Cleveland, or vs Joel and the 76ers

Mitch is an absolute defensive stud who can switch on anyone, force turnovers and guard the perimeter. Stuff that just doesn’t show up on the stat sheet. He is a glue big, who makes everyone around him better. Without Mitch this whole team suffers.

This team will be devastated by him walking away . We were not the same team without him, the only guy that comes close to his production is Robert Williams who you might get on a vet min deal … anyone else is either a has been or to slow, or just a different player

Yes Mitch isn’t perfect but he’s also the best offensive rebounder in the league … when he’s on the court the guys know we are getting second and third opportunities and on defense he’s a absolute beast. I freaking love Mitch. I don’t care about the free throws he’s like a bigger Rodman.

Someone’s gonna overpay for Mitch bc they are gonna think they need a rim runner or wemby defender. That’s just how it’ll work. His contract is gonna surprise ppl. I think he will get 2yr/50m. Nets, lakers, doesn’t matter someone is stupid enough

Reality is Mitch is overrated. He’s undervalued in the regular season but overvalued in the post season. We can’t play him more in the post bc he can’t shoot fts and teams hack a Mitch. So he can’t really be used

Just go get Drummond. Trade deuce. Put another 2 way guy on the roster, and give the rest of the money to both clarkson and shamet.

I think if Mitch walks than I’d rather just roll the dice with the big mermaid HUK ! He’s kinda a Mitch lite with better hands and can actually shoot ft’s

Drummond is old and can’t keep his man in front of him to save his life .

Huk is a plus defender who plays with energy. Maybe see if we can pry Mo Wagner or take a flyer on Robert Williams and hope he can stay healthy if we give him the Mitch treatment .

Agree with this 100%. We can also be creative and go small ball if the situation allows (which is frequent)

For the life of me I can’t figure why we traded for $ the uva guy we drafted unless we had plans A B and C to keep Mitch or replace him w something meaningful

Chandler wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

aggo wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

aggo wrote:Go get Drummond

The issue is such a downgrade to Mitch defensively and as an offensive rebounder. What about Robert Williams if healthy ?

I’m really disappointed in all the reports about Mitch … the one that really got me was one stating that the front office was pleading with Dolan, because they know how important Mitch is. Like vs a team like Cleveland, or vs Joel and the 76ers

Mitch is an absolute defensive stud who can switch on anyone, force turnovers and guard the perimeter. Stuff that just doesn’t show up on the stat sheet. He is a glue big, who makes everyone around him better. Without Mitch this whole team suffers.

This team will be devastated by him walking away . We were not the same team without him, the only guy that comes close to his production is Robert Williams who you might get on a vet min deal … anyone else is either a has been or to slow, or just a different player

Yes Mitch isn’t perfect but he’s also the best offensive rebounder in the league … when he’s on the court the guys know we are getting second and third opportunities and on defense he’s a absolute beast. I freaking love Mitch. I don’t care about the free throws he’s like a bigger Rodman.

Someone’s gonna overpay for Mitch bc they are gonna think they need a rim runner or wemby defender. That’s just how it’ll work. His contract is gonna surprise ppl. I think he will get 2yr/50m. Nets, lakers, doesn’t matter someone is stupid enough

Reality is Mitch is overrated. He’s undervalued in the regular season but overvalued in the post season. We can’t play him more in the post bc he can’t shoot fts and teams hack a Mitch. So he can’t really be used

Just go get Drummond. Trade deuce. Put another 2 way guy on the roster, and give the rest of the money to both clarkson and shamet.

I think if Mitch walks than I’d rather just roll the dice with the big mermaid HUK ! He’s kinda a Mitch lite with better hands and can actually shoot ft’s

Drummond is old and can’t keep his man in front of him to save his life .

Huk is a plus defender who plays with energy. Maybe see if we can pry Mo Wagner or take a flyer on Robert Williams and hope he can stay healthy if we give him the Mitch treatment .

Agree with this 100%. We can also be creative and go small ball if the situation allows (which is frequent)

For the life of me I can’t figure why we traded for $ the uva guy we drafted unless we had plans A B and C to keep Mitch or replace him w something meaningful

The only thought I had was we did all the draft moves to resign Mitch, I still think we might go over the apron for a one year high dollar deal see if Mitch bites .

I think the front office thought they could talk Dolan into running it back, but sounds like he’s staying firm.

Resign huk to a minimum and get Robert Williams. Who if healthy might be the only actual upgrade to Mitch . Everyone else I see is not even close and I’d rather just roll with huk . Maybe we see if we can get a summer league darling 5 to take the third string roll .

Letting Mitch walk will be more painful than people think, he is a high impact player that won’t show up on the stat sheet .

If we can get Robert Williams as a consolation prize I’d be happy.

Also as a person who appreciates Mitch I hope he gets a big bag if we are letting him walk anyways. He deserves it as a person . Might be the only big bag he gets.

martin wrote:I think I’m in this bucket, kinda. I think it’s a little about the KAT contract too.

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Me too

some interesting attainable guys show up

Ayton
dwight powell
rw iii
Capela
bitadze

given what we've seen in the playoffs and how important rebounding seems to be trending, I still think Drummond is the best fit for the team. Ayton is interesting because on databallr his advanced stats are quite good. rw iii shows up on the first page ranking DPM with the majority of actual stars which is shocking.

so I'd rank them

1/ rw iii
2/ drummond
3/ Ayton
4/ nick richards